Advice for a Newbie. Road bike related.
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Perhaps not expensive enough but meets some of the other criteria!
http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/CBPXRT57RIV/pl...
http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/CBPXRT57RIV/pl...
Justayellowbadge said:
Carbon and sram, it has to be worth lookingat Boardman?
Pretty sure the current Boardman Team Carbon runs with Shim 105. Hell of a bike for the money but my 2010 Boardman TC with SRAM Rival seems like the bargain of the century at under £1k, new. I am pretty sure that Boardman were selling at a loss back then, to get the brand established.Ignore those that question your preferences. I wanted carbon and SRAM too and it would blow a £3k hole in my wallet to make it worth upgrading from what I have. There is much sense in wanting the spec your have listed.
Planet X are well worth a look.
Other than that, consider buying something like a well spec'd Cannondale SuperSix used form the classifieds. If I changed my bike, a SuperSix would be very high on my list.
Anybody else noticed the lovely Ti framed, SRAM equipped Dolan that's about within the OPs budget.
http://www.dolan-bikes.com/road-bikes/Titanium/Tit...
http://www.dolan-bikes.com/road-bikes/Titanium/Tit...
Raven Flyer. I always do ignore the naysayers. I know what I wantand why I want it. I ask for advice with certain stipulations and those that fail to read into that get dismissed immediately.
I'm heading to the bike show at the NEC at the end of the month to get a bit of hands on. Also a trip to epic bikes to look at the Kuota range is in order.
Many thanks to those who have helped and to the others, maybe keep it to your self next time.
Thanks all.
I'm heading to the bike show at the NEC at the end of the month to get a bit of hands on. Also a trip to epic bikes to look at the Kuota range is in order.
Many thanks to those who have helped and to the others, maybe keep it to your self next time.
Thanks all.
JSquaredJim said:
Raven Flyer. I always do ignore the naysayers. I know what I wantand why I want it. I ask for advice with certain stipulations and those that fail to read into that get dismissed immediately.
Many thanks to those who have helped and to the others, maybe keep it to your self next time.
So if someone starts a thread asking which carbon aero tubs are the best upgrade for their £100 BSO should we all stick to their stipulation, or should we rather advise that other options might be more appropriate?Many thanks to those who have helped and to the others, maybe keep it to your self next time.
Whatever your reasons for choosing carbon over Alu, you either didn't state them fully or have misguided knowledge on the matter. Hence the advice that you took so much offense to.
JSquaredJim said:
Raven Flyer. I always do ignore the naysayers. I know what I wantand why I want it. I ask for advice with certain stipulations and those that fail to read into that get dismissed immediately.
Self-confessed newbie seeks advice. Receives advice. Thinks he knows better anyway. Dismisses it.You must really want the coffee shop carbon kudos.
Jimbo. said:
JSquaredJim said:
Raven Flyer. I always do ignore the naysayers. I know what I wantand why I want it. I ask for advice with certain stipulations and those that fail to read into that get dismissed immediately.
Self-confessed newbie seeks advice. Receives advice. Thinks he knows better anyway. Dismisses it.You must really want the coffee shop carbon kudos.
My thoughts too.Short term memory too?
JSquaredJim said:
All help, speculation, conjecture and good old fashioned PH mickey taking gratefully recieved.
JSquaredJim said:
Raven Flyer. I always do ignore the naysayers. I know what I wantand why I want it. I ask for advice with certain stipulations and those that fail to read into that get dismissed immediately.
I'm heading to the bike show at the NEC at the end of the month to get a bit of hands on. Also a trip to epic bikes to look at the Kuota range is in order.
Many thanks to those who have helped and to the others, maybe keep it to your self next time.
Thanks all.
The problem is with the stipulations themselves, there are things that affect how a bike rides much more than the groupset or frame material. What do you want it for, how flexible are you, do you prefer agile or stable, do looks, brand kudos or history matter - none of these are covered by "Carbon SRAM".I'm heading to the bike show at the NEC at the end of the month to get a bit of hands on. Also a trip to epic bikes to look at the Kuota range is in order.
Many thanks to those who have helped and to the others, maybe keep it to your self next time.
Thanks all.
What you've done is the equivalent of going into GG and saying "I fancy as new car but I don't know which one. It must be German and Red, any suggestions?"
So, in my very first post I specify a budget, my prefered frame material, (carbon), and groupset, (SRAM). I quantify it's usage, Sportives and the odd 10k event.
I then go on in later posts to qualify why I don't like Shimano and Campag, due to the shifters. Also why I prefer Carbon, ally and hybrid frames feel dull to me. I also point out that I have ridden lots of bikes to form these opinions.
So in conclusion, after being very specific and going to a good deal of trouble to explain my usage and preferences, those who have failed to listen and subsequently pointed me towards things I have no interest in have got somewhat upset when their advice has been dismissed. Well, in the wonderful world of PH, imagine that
Once again, many thanks to the few who are able to read, comprehend and offer relevant advice, and to the rest of you, really, who cares.
One last thing, "coffe shop kudos"? There is a lot of beautiful countryside to explore so quite why I'd want to cycle to Starbucks to be surrounded by a bunch of sandal wearing hipsters is simply beyond my comprehension. I think it says more about the poster than it's intended recipient
I then go on in later posts to qualify why I don't like Shimano and Campag, due to the shifters. Also why I prefer Carbon, ally and hybrid frames feel dull to me. I also point out that I have ridden lots of bikes to form these opinions.
So in conclusion, after being very specific and going to a good deal of trouble to explain my usage and preferences, those who have failed to listen and subsequently pointed me towards things I have no interest in have got somewhat upset when their advice has been dismissed. Well, in the wonderful world of PH, imagine that
Once again, many thanks to the few who are able to read, comprehend and offer relevant advice, and to the rest of you, really, who cares.
One last thing, "coffe shop kudos"? There is a lot of beautiful countryside to explore so quite why I'd want to cycle to Starbucks to be surrounded by a bunch of sandal wearing hipsters is simply beyond my comprehension. I think it says more about the poster than it's intended recipient
the point is, there is no single way a carbon frame rides. Different carbon frames ride in different ways as a result of the design. In the same way that some alu frames feel lifeless to you, others will feel zippy and responsive, you just havent ridden them.
Some carbon frames are designed to be comfy over long distances (eg Look 566 ) and lack a certain feel which is inherent in others designed to be ultra responsive (eg Colngao C50).
You are constrained by your requirements and to get the most from your budget, you really are stuck with Dolan, Ribble or Planet X. All of which are good bikes and the Planet X £999 offer at the moment is steal, just upgrade the wheels from the outset from the stock PX wheels to somehhing better and you have a flyer.
As I said, SRAM seems to be the expensive option for OEM hence the fewer options available to you for off the peg bikes. You have said yourself you want carbon because you dont want to upgrade in 12 months time but as we have said £1500 for an off the peg carbon frame bike fitted with a sram groupset is only going to get you a budget level frame and the lowest Sram groupset
Some carbon frames are designed to be comfy over long distances (eg Look 566 ) and lack a certain feel which is inherent in others designed to be ultra responsive (eg Colngao C50).
You are constrained by your requirements and to get the most from your budget, you really are stuck with Dolan, Ribble or Planet X. All of which are good bikes and the Planet X £999 offer at the moment is steal, just upgrade the wheels from the outset from the stock PX wheels to somehhing better and you have a flyer.
As I said, SRAM seems to be the expensive option for OEM hence the fewer options available to you for off the peg bikes. You have said yourself you want carbon because you dont want to upgrade in 12 months time but as we have said £1500 for an off the peg carbon frame bike fitted with a sram groupset is only going to get you a budget level frame and the lowest Sram groupset
Ok, I have three bikes all carbon. Two were equipped with sram frorce.
Bike 1. Dolan Mythos. Cracking little bike. Cheap as chips. Noticeably more flex than my other bikes. I run it on Aksium race wheels and Ultegra components. I've lent this out to a few mates when they are in need and always get positive feedback.
Bike 2. Moda Stretto. I always chose to ride this over the Dolan when I had the two bike option. This runs Sram force and is very stiff. Much nippier bike, it seems to turn more sharply and inspires confidence on the downhills. Quite a defined front fork with a lot of shock absortion (IMO).
Bike 3. Boardman Air. Tried with Sram but flipped to Ultegra as it just never changed nicely. Maybe it was the internal routing but it seems to work much better with the Shimano groupset. A league apart on the ride and sharpness to the two above. (to the point I am now selling the Stretto as not used in three months!)
But. The most important thing with a new bike is comfort. All three have ISM saddles and that is the best decision i ever made
Raven Flyer in for the win again
Planet X RT-57 ordered. However this one is fitted with SRAM Force and 50mm Carbon clinchers
After a couple of rides on my mates Pro Carbon plus endless hours pouring over specs, prices and boring the pants off many cycle shop owners and local club members, plus test riding many, many types and specs of bikes I decided the Planet X was the way forward
It fits like a glove and I like the way it rides and looks.
Very happy boy and excited to take delivery and get out there ASAP.
Thanks for the advice chaps and chapess'
Planet X RT-57 ordered. However this one is fitted with SRAM Force and 50mm Carbon clinchers
After a couple of rides on my mates Pro Carbon plus endless hours pouring over specs, prices and boring the pants off many cycle shop owners and local club members, plus test riding many, many types and specs of bikes I decided the Planet X was the way forward
It fits like a glove and I like the way it rides and looks.
Very happy boy and excited to take delivery and get out there ASAP.
Thanks for the advice chaps and chapess'
First time out on my Cannondale Super6 today. Lovely bike and fits your criteria.
Pedalon Cycles still have them in stock. I like the SRAM shifters too. Was a little worried i wouldn't get on with them.
I wanted a carbon frame for the sake of having a carbon frame. Although i would have had a alu Canyon or maybe a CADD8/10 for the right price.
Pedalon Cycles still have them in stock. I like the SRAM shifters too. Was a little worried i wouldn't get on with them.
I wanted a carbon frame for the sake of having a carbon frame. Although i would have had a alu Canyon or maybe a CADD8/10 for the right price.
k me that's a good looking bike.Gassing Station | Pedal Powered | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff