What cost per extra 1mph on bike?

What cost per extra 1mph on bike?

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Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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I think a bike that is properly fitted so you are more efficeint and don't fatigue as quickly is probably the best "enhancement" you can make to any bike.

Getting aero is all very well but if you you fatigue quicker it's a bit counter productive.

IroningMan

10,154 posts

246 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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okgo said:
Well, I look forward to getting mine then if its so night and day smile
smile Per the reply above, though, you have to be able to deliver the same power in the tuck as you can on your road bike, and that can take a little time to get right.

okgo

38,031 posts

198 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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IroningMan said:
smile Per the reply above, though, you have to be able to deliver the same power in the tuck as you can on your road bike, and that can take a little time to get right.
I'm quite lucky I've been told in that I have a pretty good position which is quite aggressive, and my legs are very close to my torso, yet I can still produce the same power as on the drops/hoods. So I'm hoping that the TT bike will be a similar affair. I'm looking forward to the noise the disc will make biggrin

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Apart from riding position I reckon wheels are the biggest difference...not just whether that are "aero" but weight and also the hubs....

okgo

38,031 posts

198 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Cheib said:
Apart from riding position I reckon wheels are the biggest difference...not just whether that are "aero" but weight and also the hubs....
Hubs and depth make far more difference than weight.

But I think wheels make less difference than a skinsuit, which is interesting (think a website did the tests)!

MadDad

3,835 posts

261 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Personally, I believe the four things have helped me add a couple of mph on my average (in no specific order) are;

Cadence; I used to grind away at every hill and long section of road - once I started to spin my average jumped almost overnight.

Bike position; I have been 'fettling' my position over the past year which included fitting a set of compact bars and chucking my ergo bars in the garage. I found the biggest single gain came from the seat being set at the correct height, which is about 1.5 cms higher than a bike fitting suggested.

Wheels; recently fitted a pair of RS80's (1.5kgs) to replace the stock wheels (2.2kgs) - difference in spinning up and climbing is almost tangible.

Saddle time; I believe the biggest single contributor to any kind of gain is saddle time, the more time I spend on the bike (regardless of if it is road or turbo trainer) - the faster I seem to get!

Total cost; wheels £299 - bars £45 - difference in speed over a year, 3-4 mph on my average.

dudleybloke

19,819 posts

186 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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how much do 'roids cost?
wink

McFsC

578 posts

152 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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I was reading something about Wiggins on the BBC a while ago.

It was something like, 10 reasons why Wiggins has had the success he has had.

There was things like, the best technology, sports science, nutritionist and the last one ( number 10 ) read something like, 'and he is extremely fit'.

That summed it up for me, do enough training and you will be able to ride faster than 90% of people on an average bike.


MadDad

3,835 posts

261 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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dudleybloke said:
how much do 'roids cost?
wink
laugh

Apart from a vitamin C tablet each day, and the odd paracetamol for the occasional hangover, my body is a temple, an old drafty temple that could do with some work - erm, actually more of a shed, or possibly a dog house..........

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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McFsC said:
I was reading something about Wiggins on the BBC a while ago.

It was something like, 10 reasons why Wiggins has had the success he has had.

There was things like, the best technology, sports science, nutritionist and the last one ( number 10 ) read something like, 'and he is extremely fit'.
In Wiggo's case telling the inner chimp to fk off would be one of the ten biggrin

superkartracer

8,959 posts

222 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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okgo said:
But you look like a berk with them unless you are competing in an event or clearly practicing for an event. I see people who have them on their bikes all year round, makes you look like a bit of a tosser, and people that have them on their commuting bike!! Why?!
I was riding around on the P5 today just chilling, reckon i looked cool rather than berk wink

croyde

22,893 posts

230 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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I went from an old thing off eBay to an Allez Comp with 105 gears and brakes. I'm no faster but the gear changing is sweeter and it stops quicker.

IroningMan

10,154 posts

246 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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superkartracer said:
I was riding around on the P5 today just chilling, reckon i looked cool rather than berk wink
Nope. You looked like a berk.

I, on the other hand, would look extremely cool on it. It follows that you should give it to me in the interests of the greater good. Simple, inescapable logic.

PM me for delivery details - anytime in the coming week would be fine.

superkartracer

8,959 posts

222 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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PM Sent hehe

superkartracer

8,959 posts

222 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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okgo said:
IroningMan said:
smile Per the reply above, though, you have to be able to deliver the same power in the tuck as you can on your road bike, and that can take a little time to get right.
I'm quite lucky I've been told in that I have a pretty good position which is quite aggressive, and my legs are very close to my torso, yet I can still produce the same power as on the drops/hoods. So I'm hoping that the TT bike will be a similar affair. I'm looking forward to the noise the disc will make biggrin
Good luck with that wink

okgo

38,031 posts

198 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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superkartracer said:
Good luck with that wink
I have it on good opinion that the position I can get into on the road bike is very aggressive, and so so far no power difference so time will tell, just count myself lucky I guess.

Get some pics of your new bike up then!

khushy

3,964 posts

219 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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errrrrr the best way to extra speed (apart from a min of 12 hours proper training per week is . . . . . LESS PIES!!!!!

yellowjack

17,077 posts

166 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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khushy said:
errrrrr the best way to extra speed is . . . . . LESS PIES!!!!!
??? Wha he say ???? This makes no sense.

Pies = Fuel. Fuel = Good. More Pies = More Fuel = More Miles = Very Good.

These are irrefutable facts, proven by chemists and biologists over many years of research.





By the way, I am currently seeking funding which would allow me to conduct a number of experiments aimed at demonstrating the value of Beer as Fuel. Can anyone help with sponsorship for this exciting opportunity to assist with my potentially ground-breaking research ???

offendi

244 posts

147 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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A lot if interesting ideas but the real soloution is on page one

IroningMan

10,154 posts

246 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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khushy said:
errrrrr the best way to extra speed (apart from a min of 12 hours proper training per week is . . . . . LESS PIES!!!!!
Fewer pies. But you'll be slower on the descents.