PH Cycling Shirts (I know, I know...)

[Gruffy]

Yes, Primal would be made in Denver. They're offering good service but their lead times are the longest, by some stretch. They're offering discounts but against very high prices. I think Bioracer are the front runner, all things considered.

[Gruffy]

Primal can't supply MTB jerseys either, sadly.

[SixPotBelly]

Have you thought about the design yet? Same as last time? I haven't actually seen one in the wild but from the pictures on here it looked absolutely superb.

The only thing I'd personally prefer over that would be if the pockets were in the same red as the side trim, just to make one more visible to drivers approaching from the rear. But that would just be my preference.

Or were you thinking a black jersey could be a bit hot in the summer anyway?

[SixPotBelly]

Or maybe just the two inch high strip underneath the pockets.

I'll shut up now.

[GarryDK]

It would be cool to get some arm warmers and maybe some shorts instead this run. I already have 2 jerseys.

[JSquaredJim]

Bioracer kit is amazing. the fit, finish and quality are right up there. Also the pad is excellent. My current team kit is Bioracer and it offers 200km comfort.
They also do "Gabba" style jerseys, tights, shorts etc.
Cannot recommend highly enough.

[m444ttb]

I'd certainly be up for looking 'PH Pro' this summer.

[JustinF]

FPHKW!

[Gruffy]

Yep, of all the kit I've been reviewing since the autumn, Bioracer felt like the best quality. Their custom prices are quite competitive though so I'm confident this is where we should be putting our money.

Arm warmers are available, but the minimums can be high at 100 pairs. Caps are available and can also be personalised (PH names on the bottom of the peak?) for a supplement. Shorts are an option and don't suffer from the same minimums.

As for the designs, I haven't committed anything to drawings yet but I would personally prefer something more minimalist. I'll try and cobble something together soon.

[Gruffy]

The very best stuff that Bioracer offer ('Race Proven') is really aero and feels amazing but because it's designed for racing it doesn't have the biggest pockets in the world. They say, rightly, that it's silly to go so aero and then have massive pockets. It includes their Tempest (Gabba-esque). It depends how many people are interested but it looks like a Tempest jersey in race cut would be £85-£90 + delivery. That's a lot less than Castelli are asking for the Gabba and I'd be very keen myself. The other pick from the Race Proven range would be their SS Jersey which looks to be around £65-£70 + delivery. They also do that in Bodyfit which is simply a wider cut, for non-racing snakes who still want an aero cut. This stuff is used by national teams and even raced in the Tour.

Below that we have their Pro range and the Pro Bodyfit which is likely to be £50-£55 + delivery. Their most affordable jersey is the Pro Quadri coming in between £42-£45 + delivery.

There's also a freeride/BMX/MTB jersey at £55-60 + delivery.

Arm warmers are possible with Bioracer as they only have a minimum of 10 pairs. They look likely to cost between £20-£22.

Caps needs a minimum of 100, but only cost around £10. This quantity feels ambitious, but put your hands up (virtually) if you're keen and let's see if there's enough interest.

[Gruffy]

Race Proven Tempest (Gabba-style jersey) £85-£90


Race Proven £65-£70


Quadri £42-£45


Freeride £55-£60

[ALawson]

I think an all black top with some discreet logos would be good in any of the options.

[GarryDK]

I'd definately be up for arm warmers and a cap in the right design.

[SixPotBelly]

Given a free choice of those I'd go for a Bodyfit. Either Race Proven or Pro.

But if you need to narrow the field down to two for everyone to then choose between, and the Tempest is the PH premium offering, then I guess it makes sense for the Quadri to be the PH everyman offering.

I'm in for one jersey, whatever is decided. Probably no cap though, unless you get close to the target and need a few more takers to make caps happen for those who want them.

[Gruffy]

Can everybody register their interest on this wiki please.

[Gruffy]

We're not bound by restrictive minimums, but each different product has a design setup cost, so the wider the selection of products we choose the higher design costs we have to spread around. I'm proposing we consider four tops.

I think the Quadri is, as you say, the everyman jersey. I suspect we'll have enough interest to justify a Tempest (which is rated for 5°C-18°C) and regular Race Proven, as well as the Freeride top.

Edited by Gruffy on Tuesday 3rd February 21:19

[SixPotBelly]

Makes sense, thanks. I went for the Quadri to keep things simple.

Edited by SixPotBelly on Tuesday 3rd February 21:38

[SixPotBelly]

I'd have ticked the TdF jersey as well except that I'm only doing the easy stage three and I'd feel a bit of a fraud wearing it.

That said I'm hoping it becomes an annual PH event. I'd aim to take on two stages next year, and the whole thing the year after

[Fugazi]

Updated, might still be interested in a race proven jersey but I can't commit at the moment..

[Black can man]

i Dunno how to access that list but put me down for an ordinary shirt please.