time for cyclists to have number plates?
Discussion
You still haven't really explained why cyclists are any different than pedestrians, though. I'm willing to bet that pedestrians cause both more road accidents and a higher total value of damage in road traffic accidents than cyclists.
Ultimately, I suppose the solution would be to fit some sort of tracking device to every person in the UK, but I can't see many people being happy with that idea.
Ultimately, I suppose the solution would be to fit some sort of tracking device to every person in the UK, but I can't see many people being happy with that idea.
Pixelpeep said:
In a day and age where everybody is accountable for their actions why can't we extend this to the currently anonymous group of cyclists that ride among the rest of the road users?
I say introduce some heavier laws like our Dutch friends. Priority at roundabouts sounds great as does strict liability in the event of an accident.
shoestring7 said:
So the annual tax/licence for my 2.7l Porsche 911 is £free, but I have to pay £80 for the various bicycles I own just because a few cretins ignore red lights?
SS7
Yup, SS7
Oh and dont forget that number plate jacket, something just big enough to fit over the winter gear, small enough and breathable for the summer etc....
If only people put this much thought into their driving
Thehandshake said:
Getragdogleg said:
For over 18s yes.
Ban under 18s you mean? great ideaLet kids ride about with youthful impunity but as soon as they reach the age of responsibility then make them "man up" and shoulder responsibility.
DaveCWK said:
I say no. Unless we are saying that everyone who ventures outside of their front door requires a license? What about jogging pedestrians - i've seen one of them run into a car mirror before.
Kids on scooters?
Pushchairs?
I was taken out by a cat once on a motorcycle, low speed, lost the front when the cat ran across the road. Shall we include mandatory pet insurance in this new blanket legislation so that the owners are properly covered?Kids on scooters?
Pushchairs?
Pixelpeep said:
kambites said:
You still haven't really explained why cyclists are any different than pedestrians
Generally, wheels, seats and brakes?also, on the whole, no scratchy metal hanging out of them.
As if there aren't enough obstacles in the way of cyclists in this bike-hating country
The weather, heavy traffic everywhere 24/7, aggressive/ignorant/impatient drivers, lack of traffic law enforcement, etc, etc...
Don't worry about licencing cyclists. We are gradually being forced off more and more of the road network by increasing traffic volumes and aggressive, hostile yobs in cars and will I am sure eventually be driven to extinction, literally or metaphorically (not including London, perhaps).
Meanwhile the rest of Europe regards cycling as a perfectly normal every day activity, not worthy of attempted murder...
The weather, heavy traffic everywhere 24/7, aggressive/ignorant/impatient drivers, lack of traffic law enforcement, etc, etc...
Don't worry about licencing cyclists. We are gradually being forced off more and more of the road network by increasing traffic volumes and aggressive, hostile yobs in cars and will I am sure eventually be driven to extinction, literally or metaphorically (not including London, perhaps).
Meanwhile the rest of Europe regards cycling as a perfectly normal every day activity, not worthy of attempted murder...
I ride my bicycle to work and back a lot of the time. I would sign up to a registration scheme and a national insurance scheme for a yearly fee.
By doing this if I was in an accident I would be covered for damage I had done if it was my error and would have cover if someone drove into me and damaged me or the bike.
I am a road user, part of a growing number of bike users in this country and I would have no problem belonging to a scheme to regulate and protect.
Why wouldn't you ?
By doing this if I was in an accident I would be covered for damage I had done if it was my error and would have cover if someone drove into me and damaged me or the bike.
I am a road user, part of a growing number of bike users in this country and I would have no problem belonging to a scheme to regulate and protect.
Why wouldn't you ?
yonex said:
I say introduce some heavier laws like our Dutch friends. Priority at roundabouts sounds great as does strict liability in the event of an accident.
So in my example above (i.e. cyclist run into me whilst I was turning right, trying to imply that I wasn't indicating) I would be automatically at fault and would have to pay him for the claim and get points on my license? Getragdogleg said:
I ride my bicycle to work and back a lot of the time. I would sign up to a registration scheme and a national insurance scheme for a yearly fee.
By doing this if I was in an accident I would be covered for damage I had done if it was my error and would have cover if someone drove into me and damaged me or the bike.
I am a road user, part of a growing number of bike users in this country and I would have no problem belonging to a scheme to regulate and protect.
Why wouldn't you ?
You can do all these things already. Cycling insurance is not expensive.By doing this if I was in an accident I would be covered for damage I had done if it was my error and would have cover if someone drove into me and damaged me or the bike.
I am a road user, part of a growing number of bike users in this country and I would have no problem belonging to a scheme to regulate and protect.
Why wouldn't you ?
The issue of registration is bonkers unless it can be applied universally (because all road users pose a risk, as outlined already), and even then there must be the question as to whether it really warrants the diversion of resources to enforce it. Put simply, there are much greater threats to worry about. And that's before you consider the costs, red-tape and the fact that cycling should be encouraged to reduce congestion, polluition and obesity.
The answer to this question is perhaps provided by the fact that, other than Japan, no other country has bicycle registration - that speaks volumes. Is there any reason that the UK requires such a burden?
BGarside said:
Don't worry about licencing cyclists. We are gradually being forced off more and more of the road network by increasing traffic volumes and aggressive, hostile yobs in cars and will I am sure eventually be driven to extinction, literally or metaphorically (not including London, perhaps).
Ahh we can only hope and pray that one day that happens
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