time for cyclists to have number plates?

time for cyclists to have number plates?

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Pixelpeep

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8,600 posts

143 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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I was thinking that given cyclists can quite easily cause an accident / damage to other vehicles on the road isn't it about time they were uniquely identifiable like everyone else on the road?

It could raise some money for the Government, have it like £20 a year or something to be licenced to ride on the road and maybe they wear high vis vests with a 'number plate' across the back.

People caught without one could have bike confiscated and sold at auction to raise revenue to help the scheme,

Stupid idea or some merit?

Getragdogleg

8,777 posts

184 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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For over 18s yes.

Thehandshake

181 posts

127 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Getragdogleg said:
For over 18s yes.
Ban under 18s you mean? great idea

jimbobsimmonds

1,824 posts

166 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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I would for kids too... So I can send the bill to the parents of the kid who decided to scrape his handlebars up my wing.

mini1380cc

2,944 posts

172 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Having just witnessed a cyclist crash into the side of a car in a pathetic attempt at filtering then casually sauntering off, I'd say yes.

mini1380cc

2,944 posts

172 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Having just witnessed a cyclist crash into the side of a car in a pathetic attempt at filtering then casually sauntering off, I'd say yes.

G0ldfysh

3,304 posts

258 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Excellent idea, would be worth extending this to cover horses that also use the road, also for anyone crossing the road there should be a high vis jacket requirement with identifying marks displayed clearly to all concerned.

Dogs would be worth considering for visible license plating as well, with high visibility leads implemented to reduce trip hazards especially when walked by the owners near busy roads.


Pixelpeep

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8,600 posts

143 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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G0ldfysh said:
Excellent idea, would be worth extending this to cover horses that also use the road, also for anyone crossing the road there should be a high vis jacket requirement with identifying marks displayed clearly to all concerned.

Dogs would be worth considering for visible license plating as well, with high visibility leads implemented to reduce trip hazards especially when walked by the owners near busy roads.
Reductio ad absurdum ?

simo1863

1,868 posts

129 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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to be fair if I have a few friends round one will always cycle so he can 'legally' get home after a few drinks.

I'm not sure if true but he seems to think that as long as he still has vision (sometimes you don't after some of my home brew) then he's legal!

Always struck me as wrong because you can still cause harm on a bike and whist you won't do as much damage by hitting stuff you could still cause a serious accident.

fangio

988 posts

235 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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kambites

67,602 posts

222 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Pixelpeep said:
I was thinking that given cyclists can quite easily cause an accident / damage to other vehicles on the road isn't it about time they were uniquely identifiable like everyone else on the road?
Surely by that logic you need to it pedestrians with number plates, too. And pets.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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simo1863 said:
to be fair if I have a few friends round one will always cycle so he can 'legally' get home after a few drinks.

I'm not sure if true but he seems to think that as long as he still has vision (sometimes you don't after some of my home brew) then he's legal!

Always struck me as wrong because you can still cause harm on a bike and whist you won't do as much damage by hitting stuff you could still cause a serious accident.
Riding a cycle on a road or other public place while unfit to ride through drink or drugs (RTA s.30)

Being drunk while in charge of a carriage on any highway or other public place (LA 1872, s.12)

Batfink

1,032 posts

259 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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how are you going logistically going to put a numberplate on a pedal bike? It would be rather hillarious

zippyprorider

732 posts

207 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Pixelpeep said:
I was thinking that given cyclists can quite easily cause an accident / damage to other vehicles on the road isn't it about time they were uniquely identifiable like everyone else on the road?

It could raise some money for the Government, have it like £20 a year or something to be licenced to ride on the road and maybe they wear high vis vests with a 'number plate' across the back.

People caught without one could have bike confiscated and sold at auction to raise revenue to help the scheme,

Stupid idea or some merit?
Bad idea how can I run red light and deliberately smash your wing mirrors off without fear of prosecution....... This is the response you wanted right?

Now biting how big would you like these nu,ber plates full size?

kambites

67,602 posts

222 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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simo1863 said:
I'm not sure if true but he seems to think that as long as he still has vision (sometimes you don't after some of my home brew) then he's legal!
No, it's not true.

It's not even legal to push a bike along the road when drunk - it comes under the "drunk in charge" laws.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Stupid idea, that sort of thing only works if the cyclists are in an organised group, so a trail centre could insist riders are registered with a body who could issue tags much like race numbers, or on an organised ride but for normal travel no.

What about Mountain bikers who end up on the road due to problems I know several trails that share sections of road or where you might cut back down the road if you have had a problem, hell I used to do loops of the canals locally but could end up coming back via the roads either due to tiredness, bike problems or just finding the route that looked ok on paper wasn't ok in reality.

How would you deal with someone who had legitimately gone out for an off road session but ended up on the road as the best route back to their car? I assume woudln't require them to wear the numberplate tabard, or if you did how would you deal with it being lost or damaged?

Thehandshake

181 posts

127 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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kambites said:
Surely by that logic you need to it pedestrians with number plates, too. And pets.
Any pedestrian capable of doing 20mph and more should be wearing a plate, yes.

Pixelpeep

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8,600 posts

143 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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kambites said:
Pixelpeep said:
I was thinking that given cyclists can quite easily cause an accident / damage to other vehicles on the road isn't it about time they were uniquely identifiable like everyone else on the road?
Surely by that logic you need to it pedestrians with number plates, too. And pets.
I am unaware of pets or pedestrians spending the majority of their journey on a public highway.

Come on - lets not take this out of context, the roads are full of hazards, but for everything that USES the highway (not crosses it or walks near it) - needs to be identifiable?

kambites

67,602 posts

222 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Thehandshake said:
kambites said:
Surely by that logic you need to it pedestrians with number plates, too. And pets.
Any pedestrian capable of doing 20mph and more should be wearing a plate, yes.
What's 20mph got to do with anything? Anyway, a decent sprinter can run at (just) over 20mph.

DervVW

2,223 posts

140 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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I think there should be some kind of liability, not sure what would be best but yes they can hit people and cars, but also silly things like not having lights (a pet hate of mine) or weaving all over the road - in a car or on a motorbike you could report such things, or the police would take some kind of action if observed but on a push bike. Nope.