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This thread is making me feel old! Im 37 and can recall everything mentioned so far. It makes me smile seeing these old beasts and the number or pace forks still running.
Who remembers the blue peter episode with the white Roberts called Dog's Gonads with the red o tipexed out for tv?
Wondering if we could get enough people together for a Ph retro ride / weekend.
Who remembers the blue peter episode with the white Roberts called Dog's Gonads with the red o tipexed out for tv?
Wondering if we could get enough people together for a Ph retro ride / weekend.
chrisga said:
Lawbags said:
Steve Peat still rides.
As does Martyn Ashton. He's still very active
Not as active now as he'd like to be unfortunately...As does Martyn Ashton. He's still very active
Hope he gets better but last I heard it wasn't looking good. Have seen many of his shows and of course the vids. Fantastic rider - wishing you all the best Martyn, you've inspired a generation of riders!
Chainspotting was revolutionary as far as I'm concerned, it was the first feature length mountain bike video I ever watched. Me and my mates had been riding for a few years when it came out and thought we were doing quite well but CS was one of those eye opening experiences where so many new tricks/stunts/techniques seemed possible.
Loved the soundtrack to, sugar is sweeter cj bolland , Orbital satan and Garbage were brilliant tunes of the era.
OH and to go fully retro we need Rob Warner being interviewed...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcaPyvw_FTk
jamieandthemagic said:
the_g_ster said:
Anybody got a fat tube Klein in the crazy colours? From memory they were pretty madly expensive.
My attitude at the beginning of this thread was just a few years too late to that white green pink combo they did.
rufusruffcutt said:
jamieandthemagic said:
the_g_ster said:
Anybody got a fat tube Klein in the crazy colours? From memory they were pretty madly expensive.
My attitude at the beginning of this thread was just a few years too late to that white green pink combo they did.jamieandthemagic said:
I met up with Jez Avery this summer, he now does acrobatic moto x shows, my mate hired him as a side show to his monster trucks gig
Bumped into Jez a few years back, he was doing one of his demos at a local summer fete.Couldn't help myself by walking over shouting 'Hot Pies'.
aka_kerrly said:
^ only the second bike with Spin wheels so far , good effort!
Also note the maguras on both bikes to, it's surprisingly rare to see people with them these days.
I remember reading about Maguras in MBUK when they tested the PACE RC100 & thinking they'd be AMAZING - they're good, but I always think they should be better :-DAlso note the maguras on both bikes to, it's surprisingly rare to see people with them these days.
Enjoying this thread, so many bikes that I used to lust after in my early teens. My interest dropped around the late 90s when MBUK seemed to be trying to turn their bikes into crap big BMXs. I liked jumps/trials etc at the time but using an MTB seemed a poor substitute at the time. Now things are a bit more equal as people are using MTBs to more of their full potential when it comes to that sort of thing.
aka_kerrly said:
Very much this, both riders have been inspirational.
Chainspotting was revolutionary as far as I'm concerned, it was the first feature length mountain bike video I ever watched. Me and my mates had been riding for a few years when it came out and thought we were doing quite well but CS was one of those eye opening experiences where so many new tricks/stunts/techniques seemed possible.
Loved the soundtrack to, sugar is sweeter cj bolland , Orbital satan and Garbage were brilliant tunes of the era.
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Agre with you here, I'd been getting MBUK for quite a while and generelly did the odd bit of trails mixed in with urban stuff; but I also enjoyed the little bits of trials you would see on TV etc. I seem to remember when they gave the DIRT video away for free, at the end of the video was a little trailer for Chainspotting; that was definitely my most watched part of DIRT! Great soundtrack as you say, just try and find that Garbage remix anywhere though?! Searched online various times over the years and it's just not around.Chainspotting was revolutionary as far as I'm concerned, it was the first feature length mountain bike video I ever watched. Me and my mates had been riding for a few years when it came out and thought we were doing quite well but CS was one of those eye opening experiences where so many new tricks/stunts/techniques seemed possible.
Loved the soundtrack to, sugar is sweeter cj bolland , Orbital satan and Garbage were brilliant tunes of the era.
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PHmember said:
I remember reading about Maguras in MBUK when they tested the PACE RC100 & thinking they'd be AMAZING - they're good, but I always think they should be better :-D
I agree in part, it used to be that in my head I'd see those luminous levers/callipers and just knew that bike meant business.. 10 years or so I finally got some HS33s on a second hand bike, and personally I think they're bloody good, my only negative is that they're difficult to feather; just on/off. How easy is it to feather modern disc brakes? Never ridden a bike with discs at length. I am thinking when doing a manual/wheelie, seems really difficult to control with the Maguras compared with some decent old school cantilevers..
Anyone have Biopace still fitted to their retro MTBs?
I had it fitted to a Coventry Eagle MTB in about 1989? I don't think Coventry Eagle still exist?
The Deore DX groupset I had with biopace was awful and played havoc with the rhythm whilst climbing hills. I know some people loved it, but I do not hear about it nowadays. So obviously its popularity was short lived.
Mike
edit: And where has SunTour groupsets gone too? My mate used to rave about how smooth his gear change was with Suntour kit......
I had it fitted to a Coventry Eagle MTB in about 1989? I don't think Coventry Eagle still exist?
The Deore DX groupset I had with biopace was awful and played havoc with the rhythm whilst climbing hills. I know some people loved it, but I do not hear about it nowadays. So obviously its popularity was short lived.
Mike
edit: And where has SunTour groupsets gone too? My mate used to rave about how smooth his gear change was with Suntour kit......
Edited by mike9009 on Monday 6th January 19:41
Gompo said:
Agre with you here, I'd been getting MBUK for quite a while and generelly did the odd bit of trails mixed in with urban stuff; but I also enjoyed the little bits of trials you would see on TV etc. I seem to remember when they gave the DIRT video away for free, at the end of the video was a little trailer for Chainspotting; that was definitely my most watched part of DIRT! Great soundtrack as you say, just try and find that Garbage remix anywhere though?! Searched online various times over the years and it's just not around.
Having done a bit of research all I can find is the track listing in full here - http://www.bikemoviemusic.com/mtb/movies/51/chains... where it lists the Garbage remix as Witzy - as you say though no amount of searching yields any more information.PHmember said:
I remember reading about Maguras in MBUK when they tested the PACE RC100 & thinking they'd be AMAZING - they're good, but I always think they should be better :-D
I agree in part, it used to be that in my head I'd see those luminous levers/callipers and just knew that bike meant business.. 10 years or so I finally got some HS33s on a second hand bike, and personally I think they're bloody good, my only negative is that they're difficult to feather; just on/off. How easy is it to feather modern disc brakes? Never ridden a bike with discs at length. I am thinking when doing a manual/wheelie, seems really difficult to control with the Maguras compared with some decent old school cantilevers..For those who may not have seen Chainspotting, it's on YT here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_A2exFmvn0 and is well worth watching even if it's for novelty value as it's very much a budget film in comparison to some of the videos you see on PinkBike.
Regarding your second point, I know what you mean. Prior to ever trying them myself I had only ever seen Maguras on trials bikes where the ability to lock a brake instantly is very much desirable. When I eventually got a set (circa y2k HS11) I tried them first on my GT hardtail and found that whilst good at first and perfect in the dry they still suffer the same old problems of all rim brakes which is once the pads are dirty/wet they become less effective. I then swapped them to my trials bike and they are far better suited to this type of application. Back in the day we used to rub bitumin on our rims which made them sticky, whilst this improved the brakes the side effect was high pitch squealing!!!
In general I found well set up V-Brakes with suitable pads far more user friendly and far more adjustable especially in situations like wheelies/endos. I made the switch to disc brakes a few years ago and until recently I've always had Hope hydraulic disc set ups. They are easy to service/swap pads in and after several years use they are spot on! My DH bikes came with Hayes HFX which have been fine but recently their performance has nose dived. I tried changing the pads, rebuilding the calipers, fresh fluid and nope still not a patch on previous performance. According to a few people this seems quite common with Hayes brakes.
As a result I have upgraded to 203mm front and 185mm Avids and should be able to pick up the last of the bits I need to have the bike operational by Wednesday. Based on riding other bikes with this set up the power is phenomenal and you never need more than 1 finger!!!
The biggest differences with discs is how the performance is far more consistent in different weather conditions. Depending on the model you opt for some have levers which allow you to control the moderation and reach which can drastically change how the brake functions. I've always set mine up so the back is a little more bitey(sp) with little leaver movement and the front I prefer a slightly longer lever pull to help modulate the power.
Generally speaking hydraulic disc brakes have been one of the best developments on bikes in the last decade.
Some lovely old rides on this thread 
Takes me back to my youth, drooling over top of the range Marins, Whytes, Konas and Cannondales in copies of MBUK and MBR when it first came out. I remember finally "getting" Mint Sauce and realising how brilliant it was when I was about 14.
My commuter hack is my old Orange Evo2 from 2003. Still has the original M750 XT groupset on it which works perfectly- that stuff was bombproof. Marzocci MX pros have been replaced with Salsa cromoto rigid forks, flat bars, bar ends . . love it.
Still have my Saracen Rufftrax frame- my first 26" mountain bike, loved that thing, thought it was so cool with the seat tube piercing the top tube. Really nicely made frame, bit heavy though. It gave up it's wheels and groupset a couple of years ago to build a bike for my OH.
My dad still has a 1992 Marin Eldridge Grade which gets regular use, although it's mainly bolted to a turbo trainer these days. The Deore LX/DX 7 speed stuff was replaced with Deore 9 spd when it wore out. Every time I see it I can't believe how long the top tube is for a 17" frame! I feel over stretched on it and I'm 6'2"!
Takes me back to my youth, drooling over top of the range Marins, Whytes, Konas and Cannondales in copies of MBUK and MBR when it first came out. I remember finally "getting" Mint Sauce and realising how brilliant it was when I was about 14.My commuter hack is my old Orange Evo2 from 2003. Still has the original M750 XT groupset on it which works perfectly- that stuff was bombproof. Marzocci MX pros have been replaced with Salsa cromoto rigid forks, flat bars, bar ends . . love it.
Still have my Saracen Rufftrax frame- my first 26" mountain bike, loved that thing, thought it was so cool with the seat tube piercing the top tube. Really nicely made frame, bit heavy though. It gave up it's wheels and groupset a couple of years ago to build a bike for my OH.
My dad still has a 1992 Marin Eldridge Grade which gets regular use, although it's mainly bolted to a turbo trainer these days. The Deore LX/DX 7 speed stuff was replaced with Deore 9 spd when it wore out. Every time I see it I can't believe how long the top tube is for a 17" frame! I feel over stretched on it and I'm 6'2"!
Despite having a couple of new bikes I still use my '96 Cannondale regularly, although more as a grim weather road bike than off road now. Owned since new and not much of it is still original, except the super long stem of course!
I've also built up these two '99ish from frames for my kids, although I'm not sure that is really retro!:
F300 with nice 2nd hand bits for my son:
F600 with not so nice but new and shiny bits for my Daughter:
I've also built up these two '99ish from frames for my kids, although I'm not sure that is really retro!:
F300 with nice 2nd hand bits for my son:
F600 with not so nice but new and shiny bits for my Daughter:
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