Cyclists! Why do they ride in the middle of the road?

Cyclists! Why do they ride in the middle of the road?

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73mark

774 posts

127 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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BGarside said:
73mark said:
I'd like to know why they ride on the road when a cycle path is right next the them.

And it's always the Lycra wearing knobheads.
Maybe it's because we actually want to get somewhere without stopping and giving way at every side road, playing chicken with lemming-like pedestrians of laughably-named 'shared use' paths, avoid getting punctures from the glass typically strewn all over cycle paths, not get hit by cars emerging from driveways without looking, etc, etc.

Cycle paths are not designed and built to any minimum standards of safety or usability in the UK, neither are they maintained. They are a bad joke.

Oh, and why does wearing lycra cycling clothes make me a knobhead? Is a swimmer wearing swimwear a nobhead or a runner wearing running gear, etc, etc?

Your crass ignorance reveals who is the real knobhead here...
You need to ask rofl

Jagmanv12

1,573 posts

164 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Ennoch said:
73mark said:
I'd like to know why they ride on the road when a cycle path is right next the them.
Because cycle paths are usually ill thought out in this country and often worse to ride on than the road!

Cycle paths are built at great expense to all of us so I suggest if cyclists don't want to use them then cycling clubs should tell the authorities you don't want them. That would save some of our taxes being wasted.

The law about riding on the pavement should be repealed. There are loads of pavements that are barely used by pedestrians and cycling on them would be safer for cyclists than riding in the road. Cyclists ride on the pavement in Tokyo and it works there. Obviously they have consideration for pedestrians and don't expect to ride as if they are in the Tour de France. As we read from the posts here some cyclists have no consideration for other road users.

I cycled for 8 years and would have welcomed cycle paths. Also I always kept close to the kerb as was recommended in the HC.

otolith

56,151 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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paranoid airbag said:
The reason why these threads aren't in a subforum is because the tendency of governments to treat motorists (and motorcyclists) like idiots won't stop until people like you are shaken from the delusion that you don't ride like a knob.
Except they won't be, and as a result they will continue to drive the restriction of everyone's freedoms when driving on the road.

Bluntly, it isn't cyclists who are ruining motoring, it's the knobheads who can't share the road nicely with them.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Yay, another anti cycling thread...awesome. Is cycling the new 335d of PH? Are some of you not getting any?

Well, congrats to all of you angry fking drivers you have made me think about what would happen when the inevitable confrontation happens.

If we can't change your opinions, and googling road rage and cyclist seems to prove many of us are getting a good smack in the chops fairly regularly it's obviously a lost cause, the only option is to carry some motorist repellent smile. Fits neatly in my jersey pocket, weighs little. Have a look yourselves at the effects of pepper spray, quite remarkable, cheap as well.

So, my angry fellow road users. Well done for enlightening me.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

206 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Jagmanv12 said:
Also I always kept close to the kerb as was recommended in the HC.
The highway code does not recommend that and has not for a long time, if ever.

73mark

774 posts

127 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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yonex said:
Yay, another anti cycling thread...awesome. Is cycling the new 335d of PH? Are some of you not getting any?

Well, congrats to all of you angry fking drivers you have made me think about what would happen when the inevitable confrontation happens.

If we can't change your opinions, and googling road rage and cyclist seems to prove many of us are getting a good smack in the chops fairly regularly it's obviously a lost cause, the only option is to carry some motorist repellent smile. Fits neatly in my jersey pocket, weighs little. Have a look yourselves at the effects of pepper spray, quite remarkable, cheap as well.

So, my angry fellow road users. Well done for enlightening me.
I might be wrong but isn't pepper spray not for public use.

It's the uk not the u.s.a.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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73mark said:
I might be wrong but isn't pepper spray not for public use.

It's the uk not the u.s.a.
Yes, remind me again why I should be concerned about people who try and run me over then want a fight?




mikeveal

4,574 posts

250 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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yonex said:
Yay, another anti cycling thread...awesome. Is cycling the new 335d of PH? Are some of you not getting any?

Well, congrats to all of you angry fking drivers you have made me think about what would happen when the inevitable confrontation happens.

If we can't change your opinions, and googling road rage and cyclist seems to prove many of us are getting a good smack in the chops fairly regularly it's obviously a lost cause, the only option is to carry some motorist repellent smile. Fits neatly in my jersey pocket, weighs little. Have a look yourselves at the effects of pepper spray, quite remarkable, cheap as well.

So, my angry fellow road users. Well done for enlightening me.
The fact is that there are as many angry drivers as there are angry cyclists. When an angry cyclist meets a normal driver, the result is posted on youtube. But when an angry driver meets a normal (or angry) cyclist, the results are dealt with in court.

Pepper spray will not be of much use to you in the latter case.

Besides, the carrying of pepper spray is an offence in the UK.

73mark

774 posts

127 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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yonex said:
73mark said:
I might be wrong but isn't pepper spray not for public use.

It's the uk not the u.s.a.
Yes, remind me again why I should be concerned about people who try and run me over then want a fight?
Because if you're in the right,the moment you spray pepper spray you'd be the one locked up.
Get a head cam,like I've got a dashcam so there's no doubt who did what.

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

159 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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mikeveal said:
It's called the primate position for a reason.
Um, not by anyone but you it isn't. Do you really think deliberately misnaming something makes anyone think you're clever or worth listening to?

Because I have some bad news...


NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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yonex said:
Yay, another anti cycling thread...awesome. Is cycling the new 335d of PH? Are some of you not getting any?

Well, congrats to all of you angry fking drivers you have made me think about what would happen when the inevitable confrontation happens.

If we can't change your opinions, and googling road rage and cyclist seems to prove many of us are getting a good smack in the chops fairly regularly it's obviously a lost cause, the only option is to carry some motorist repellent smile. Fits neatly in my jersey pocket, weighs little. Have a look yourselves at the effects of pepper spray, quite remarkable, cheap as well.

So, my angry fellow road users. Well done for enlightening me.
I hope that's just internet big bks talking as carrying what we consider to be an offensive weapon is frowned upon here in good old blighty.


Oh and in answer to the thread title, some people think putting their body and bicycle in front of a 2 ton plus object that's coming up from behind at two,three or more times the speed they are doing is a good idea.




Edited by NoNeed on Wednesday 16th April 14:07

mikeveal

4,574 posts

250 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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paranoid airbag said:
Um, not by anyone but you it isn't. Do you really think deliberately misnaming something makes anyone think you're clever or worth listening to?

Because I have some bad news...
Did I state that I think that deliberately misnaming something... blah blah what ever you said?

I also have bad news for you if you're thinking that I give a stuff that people disagree with my opinion. You have your opinion, I have mine. That's fine, we're both entitled.

If you want to pick holes in my post, go ahead. If you want to just hurl implied insults, you're going to get treated with the contempt you deserve.

Let's get back to topic. Do you have anything constructive to post?

otolith

56,151 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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People who don't cycle disagree with people who do cycle and with the official expert advice in the matter of how to cycle most safely. Hmm, I wonder who is talking bks there.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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NoNeed said:
I hope that's just internet big bks talking as carrying what we consider to be an offensive weapon is frowned upon here in good old blighty.


Oh and in answer to the thread title, some people think putting their body and bicycle in front of a 2 ton plus object that's coming up from behind at two,three or more times the speed they are doing is a good idea.
It's amazing that it's perfectly acceptable to play risky games with cyclists lives, largely due to impatience, then take the moral high ground.

Like I said it hasn't happened but if/when it does I absolutely won't be taking a beating from some knuckle head.

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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yonex said:
Yay, another anti cycling thread...awesome. Is cycling the new 335d of PH? Are some of you not getting any?

Well, congrats to all of you angry fking drivers you have made me think about what would happen when the inevitable confrontation happens.

If we can't change your opinions, and googling road rage and cyclist seems to prove many of us are getting a good smack in the chops fairly regularly it's obviously a lost cause, the only option is to carry some motorist repellent smile. Fits neatly in my jersey pocket, weighs little. Have a look yourselves at the effects of pepper spray, quite remarkable, cheap as well.

So, my angry fellow road users. Well done for enlightening me.
Christ cyclists are really taking this "righteousness" thing seriously - has it really come down to the lycra warriors carrying offensive weapons to enforce their own version of road law?

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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yonex said:
It's amazing that it's perfectly acceptable to play risky games with cyclists lives, largely due to impatience, then take the moral high ground.

Like I said it hasn't happened but if/when it does I absolutely won't be taking a beating from some knuckle head.
Why would you need to take a beating if you are doing nothing wrong and have the moral high ground?


Carrying an offensive weapon is wrong, it is as simple as that. And unless you are deliberately going out to antagonise people into wanting a fight it is not only wrong but totally unnecessary.

Fetchez la vache

5,573 posts

214 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Rawwr said:
I've never been inconvenienced by a cyclist. I may have had to slow down and, horror, give thought and consideration to another road user, but I've never been inconvenienced. People on the whole are just angry, selfish, impatient twots.
This is the thing.
As the week goes by, I'm a motorist, cyclist, pedestrian, and dog walker.
I'd say that on the whole, there's an equal percentage of selfish tts in each of those groups, and anyone that says otherwise, or has a complete hatred of all members of one of the above is more than likely to be a tt themselves.

Some people will be all of the above, and a tt in each, whereas others will be courteous and considerate to others, in each of the above.

Get over it.
hippy

will_

6,027 posts

203 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Mr SFJ said:
Now who's trying to say that some cyclists are not menaces?
Absolutely no-one. You won't find a single, rational person (cyclist or driver) who doesn't accept that there will be menances in both camps. Maybe you can show me where someone has said otherwise?

I love the anecdotal examples that always get trotted out in these threads -"yesterday, a cyclist did something bad near me!!!". They are just as meaningless to the overall debate as me posting about the countless examples of dangerous driving that I see everyday.

Hol

8,419 posts

200 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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OP

Why have you only decided to cherry pick some rules, but deliberately decided to ignore others.


There was plenty of wording informing cyclists that they should check it is safe to make a manouvre and also not to ride in a reckless manner.

Or have you 'personally interpreted' them to be irrellevant to your argument?



Its no wonder why you guys have such a low reputation on the web.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Mastodon2 said:
Christ cyclists are really taking this "righteousness" thing seriously - has it really come down to the lycra warriors carrying offensive weapons to enforce their own version of road law?
I drive as well, I must be a really 'righteous' road user, oh hang...I also ride motorcycles and have held a race licence, how can this be, this scummy 'lycra warrior'?

Yes it has come down to me giving as much of a st as some of you do about me whilst minding my own business cycling.

Stop acting like assholes and be nicer to people. End of the problems?