A cyclist and tax question
Discussion
Dammit said:
T0nup said:
Cyclists...
Test em... Yes.
Insurance... Absolutely
Tax em... HELL YES!
And frankly, should a cyclist be pulled or caught for anything by BiB, if they are found to be a car driving licence holder, it should be a mandatory 3 points. They should know f
king better.
Test em... Yes.
Insurance... Absolutely
Tax em... HELL YES!
And frankly, should a cyclist be pulled or caught for anything by BiB, if they are found to be a car driving licence holder, it should be a mandatory 3 points. They should know f
king better.jimbop1 said:
Very good point!
I don't really agree with the tax bit though as cars with few emissions don't pay.
Here you goI don't really agree with the tax bit though as cars with few emissions don't pay.
jimbop1 said:
Mr Gear said:
jimbop1 said:
Troll or have the opposite opinion to yourself, which you don't agree with?
I hope for your sake that it's trolling, otherwise I pity your stupidity."most cyclists are knobheads"
"cycling commuters are just awful people"
"cyclists are dangerous"
Talk about wild accusations
If not trolling, I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by your obsessive posting on every cycling thread.
You come across as a vile and stupid individual.
Pedestrians, they dont pay any tax but use the pavements that tax payers like ME & YOU paid for, TAX ALL PEDESTRIANS the freeloading scum. One stepped out in front of me without looking the other day and caused me to brake so i didn't hit him. All pedestrians are ignorant s, every last one of them! No, wait, thats all ste isnt it. I can see some parallels here though.
I never fails to amaze me that the subject of people riding bikes causes so much pent up aggression from those who dont. Especially if they took the time to look at the situation objectively. Then they might realise what donkeys they look ranting about it.
Plenty of things fk me off on the road, mostly other drivers driving like s when I'm in my car as opposed to on my bike. Lifes too short to worry about it though.
It could be summed up like this.... "Majority of road users are selfish tits regardless of their mode of transport shocker....In other news, sky still blue. Here's Jane with the weather"
s, every last one of them! No, wait, thats all ste isnt it. I can see some parallels here though.I never fails to amaze me that the subject of people riding bikes causes so much pent up aggression from those who dont. Especially if they took the time to look at the situation objectively. Then they might realise what donkeys they look ranting about it.
Plenty of things f
k me off on the road, mostly other drivers driving like s when I'm in my car as opposed to on my bike. Lifes too short to worry about it though.It could be summed up like this.... "Majority of road users are selfish tits regardless of their mode of transport shocker....In other news, sky still blue. Here's Jane with the weather"
mdavids said:
Perhaps its regularly coming out with such gems as:
"most cyclists are knobheads"
"cycling commuters are just awful people"
"cyclists are dangerous"
Talk about wild accusations
If not trolling, I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by your obsessive posting on every cycling thread.
You come across as a vile and stupid individual.
And another cyclist resorting to insults. I often wonder are the cyclists of PH as aggressive and gobby in the real world.. Then I realise, of course they are."most cyclists are knobheads"
"cycling commuters are just awful people"
"cyclists are dangerous"
Talk about wild accusations
If not trolling, I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by your obsessive posting on every cycling thread.
You come across as a vile and stupid individual.
Vile for not liking cyclists on the road? Get a grip mate.
If someone gave me a reasoned argument as to why I should pay VED such as I occupy x m² of space on the tarmac, or wear the surface of the road by y microns then I suppose I could contemplate it I suppose. Insurance for cyclists on the road isn't a bad idea. If you work out the stats then I'm sure it would only be a couple of quid (you get it included with British Cycling membership so I'm covered). Licensing might get tricky but I'm sure we could add a class to the driving licence which you got approved in the same way as the CBT for motorbikes. Most kids do CBT in the form of Bikeability anyway? All my mates and I did Cycling Proficiency back at primary school.
On the flipside I could use my CX bike to ride to work down towpaths and bridleways? I'd then be socially unacceptable just like the people who ride motocross bikes around footpaths and bridleways of the local woods.
Conversely, I get paid ££££s for making a few kwhs out of solar panels on my roof and I'll make even more out of running a pimped out electric heating system from July onwards(less CO2 from my house, more from the power station). I could even get paid £5000 buy buying the latest CO2 displacing cars (i.e. plug in BMW i3). I reckon the govt should subsidise my next bike even more assuming it displaces the CO2 from my cakehole and puts it to the power station???
Those are meant to be ideas for discussion. I could now continue with a tirade of abuse against all the ### who go about in their ####s doing ##### over and over. It boils my piss, but it serves no purpose for me to share those thoughts and who knows, one of the ####s might help me up when I bin it, or give me a lift home if I have a puncture in the middle of the night. I wouldn't walk up to them and abuse them to their face and doing it here behind their backs would appear to be cowardly.
On the flipside I could use my CX bike to ride to work down towpaths and bridleways? I'd then be socially unacceptable just like the people who ride motocross bikes around footpaths and bridleways of the local woods.
Conversely, I get paid ££££s for making a few kwhs out of solar panels on my roof and I'll make even more out of running a pimped out electric heating system from July onwards(less CO2 from my house, more from the power station). I could even get paid £5000 buy buying the latest CO2 displacing cars (i.e. plug in BMW i3). I reckon the govt should subsidise my next bike even more assuming it displaces the CO2 from my cakehole and puts it to the power station???
Those are meant to be ideas for discussion. I could now continue with a tirade of abuse against all the ### who go about in their ####s doing ##### over and over. It boils my piss, but it serves no purpose for me to share those thoughts and who knows, one of the ####s might help me up when I bin it, or give me a lift home if I have a puncture in the middle of the night. I wouldn't walk up to them and abuse them to their face and doing it here behind their backs would appear to be cowardly.
I think a large part of the problem is the "entitlement" issue.
Those of us who have not done any research, or applied any critical thinking to the situation follow the easy but rather lazy chain of reasoning that because they may have paid something in order to allow their vehicle on the road then that positions them above those who have not.
This misses the point by a pretty impressive margin- that everyone and anyone is allowed on the road, with absolutely no requirements for a licence, insurance etc etc- otherwise we'd not be able to walk from one side to the other.
It's only when you wish to be on the road with a vehicle that emits over whatever the limit is that you need to pay VED for the privilege.
This will all be moot in ~10 years when every car on the road is piloted by some variant of Googles autopilot, a day I am quite looking forward to if I'm being honest.
Those of us who have not done any research, or applied any critical thinking to the situation follow the easy but rather lazy chain of reasoning that because they may have paid something in order to allow their vehicle on the road then that positions them above those who have not.
This misses the point by a pretty impressive margin- that everyone and anyone is allowed on the road, with absolutely no requirements for a licence, insurance etc etc- otherwise we'd not be able to walk from one side to the other.
It's only when you wish to be on the road with a vehicle that emits over whatever the limit is that you need to pay VED for the privilege.
This will all be moot in ~10 years when every car on the road is piloted by some variant of Googles autopilot, a day I am quite looking forward to if I'm being honest.
Cycling is - compared to motoring - benign. It carries a low risk of harming others, it doesn't impact on local air quality or global CO2 emissions, it reduces urban congestion, it contributes positively to good health and the reduction of obesity. A policy maker would have to be a complete fkwit to do anything to discourage it. I mean a complete drooling retard, a window licking imbecile, a brainless prick of the first order. Even our political classes are not that moronic.
kwit to do anything to discourage it. I mean a complete drooling retard, a window licking imbecile, a brainless prick of the first order. Even our political classes are not that moronic.otolith said:
Cycling is - compared to motoring - benign. It carries a low risk of harming others, it doesn't impact on local air quality or global CO2 emissions, it reduces urban congestion, it contributes positively to good health and the reduction of obesity. A policy maker would have to be a complete fkwit to do anything to discourage it. I mean a complete drooling retard, a window licking imbecile, a brainless prick of the first order. Even our political classes are not that moronic.
That'll do for me. Lets close the thread now.kwit to do anything to discourage it. I mean a complete drooling retard, a window licking imbecile, a brainless prick of the first order. Even our political classes are not that moronic.otolith said:
Cycling is - compared to motoring - benign. It carries a low risk of harming others, it doesn't impact on local air quality or global CO2 emissions, it reduces urban congestion, it contributes positively to good health and the reduction of obesity. A policy maker would have to be a complete fkwit to do anything to discourage it. I mean a complete drooling retard, a window licking imbecile, a brainless prick of the first order. Even our political classes are not that moronic.
Cycling carries much more risk than your single mind thinks. What's wrong with you cyclists and turning so aggressive? You do it on the road and you do it on here. Anyway I'll leave you guys to talk amongst yourselves.. My views are never going to be welcome in a bike forum. kwit to do anything to discourage it. I mean a complete drooling retard, a window licking imbecile, a brainless prick of the first order. Even our political classes are not that moronic.
Might cause a few more problems given the 20 million or so people your idea has just killed- you'd have outdone Hitler, you sad little man.
You could shoot people for flying a kite, listening to music and dancing as well, maybe?
Happy to discuss this in person to show you why it's not a very clever idea.
You could shoot people for flying a kite, listening to music and dancing as well, maybe?
Happy to discuss this in person to show you why it's not a very clever idea.
mybrainhurts said:
These problems would all go away...
if all bicyclists were shot on sight
Nope, slow drivers should be shot on sight. I'd happily oversee the project myself.if all bicyclists were shot on sight
Anyone else breeze into work this morning, or indeed this week? Isn't there an incredible difference when there's fewer cars on the roads, and just think, all those car drivers all think they're all held up by somebody else.
jimbop1 said:
And another cyclist resorting to insults. .
Oh the irony! Is calling most cyclists knobheads not an insult then?
Is describing cycling commuters as awful people not an insult?
You're happy to dish it out but cant take it. Or just too stupid to realise you're being offensive with your crass generalisations.
And by the way, I'm not a cyclist, I'm a person who occasionally rides a bike, mainly off road but sometimes on the road to get to work, allowing me to use the money I save to continue running a car which barely gets 20mpg.
jimbop1 said:
Vile for not liking cyclists on the road? Get a grip mate.
Yes! You don't like cyclists on the road? tough st. They aren't going anywhere and they have every right to be there. That's never going to change so you might as well grow up and learn to deal with it instead of whining.So the only thing you can possibly hope to achieve by constantly airing your negative views is to try and encourage others to think like you, that cyclists "shouldn't be there" and that "they're all knobheads" anyway and its only a small step from thinking like that to driving dangerously and aggressively around
jimbop1 said:
Mdavids, how many of my posts did you search through to find those?! 
None. They just stuck in my mind from the first time I read them as the sheer stupidity on display is frightening at times.Still, you've nothing really to say eh? No answer? Just a feeble attempt to insult and troll like normal.
Please carry on though, there's a kind of perverse pleasure in watching someone outing himself as an imbecile at every opportunity.
Edited by mdavids on Friday 18th April 15:49
Edited by mdavids on Friday 18th April 16:14
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