Cipollini - Educate Me
Discussion
Dizeee said:
Was supposed to get the bike back today, however, the original bike shop massively over tightened the BB meaning when this bike shop have tried to remove it, the carbon crank has sheared and is now damaged. The other bike shop only tightened it a few months ago to try and eliminate a creak I had.
Dizeee said:
Im not sure, it is BB30 compatible but when he showed it me the thread of the spline was visible and had pressed into the carbon fibre crank.
None of this makes any sense*. It's not possible to damage a crank by over tightening the BB, they're totally independent of each other.Also I don't see how the headset could have been grease-free as it should have been assembled with plenty in there from new, and anyway the supplying shop would never check inside the headset races so it's nothing to do with them.
*kind of goes for the entire thread really!
okgo said:
What does his nationality or former career have to do with anything?
Also how is it rusty, you never rode it in the rain...?
Well, have you ever met a nice South African? ( it's a spitting image song for the young uns who may get offended)Also how is it rusty, you never rode it in the rain...?
Having said that, Brad is a lovely bloke
2222 said:
Well, have you ever met a nice South African? ( it's a spitting image song for the young uns who may get offended)
Having said that, Brad is a lovely bloke
He is untrustworthy imho, Andy is a great mechanic but Brad is a business man, and he has so far this week simply lied to me in that he checked my bike (he didn't), that my gears were ruined (they aren't) and that my bike was a write off (it's not).Having said that, Brad is a lovely bloke
That doesn't include a load of other issues I have had, just to name one, he told me the forks could not be replaced and that even if they could be there were no longer parts available. Funny how the brand new OE fork from I Ride the supplier is now fitted to my bike after he told me this.
There is a long list of issues and untruths that come from him, and therefore the shop. I am glad he has so far done your bikes proud but I am not alone in finding this, and I hope you don't need proper support from him in the future because his decisions are purely money based with a vested interest, nothing to do with what is actually going on with the bike, the customer or their needs.
Brad is an ok guy but its very clear he is out to make money. Its always rushed with him and much is promised that never comes to fruition. Most of the regular weekend riders are just that and know how he shop operates. Andy will bend over backwards to accomodate but Brad is all about the $$$ bags and like on this occasion, clear instruction has been given to leave it well and truly with Brad.
I'm just the latest customer to be sick of their pis poor customer service.
Dizeee said:
So I have the basic info from Google - and have found a local stockist of these bikes. I love the look of them and I get the impression they are properly decent kit. I also have a weekend test ride booked in June for the basic frame which is the "Bond", retailing at £2600 for the frameset.
However, I keep coming back to the bike pictured below, the RB1000. I simply love it. Does anyone have any riding experience or knowledge of these bikes, any model?
Thanks
Hmm... ClickHowever, I keep coming back to the bike pictured below, the RB1000. I simply love it. Does anyone have any riding experience or knowledge of these bikes, any model?
Thanks
I'm going to bring some closure to this thread as I am quite drained by it.
The bike is fixed. It's done ( I have seen it ). The bill is correct as it has been totted up in my presence. It's all familar and direct from the supplier that was used when I bought the bike. Bike Shop 2 have saved the day, and spent hours explaining, showing and "doing". Bike shop 1 have been, as always, slow, unresponsive and totally wrong. Parts they said were unavailable were available, things they said were unfixable have been fixed, and time they could have spent explaining anything to me has been non existant.
The crank / BB is just a glitch. I have had so much science and explanation about why / how / when and where the crank and BB or both would have done what they have done, it all boils down to bike shop 1. They serviced the BB not so long ago due to a creak, bike shop 2 have finished my repair job and gone to degrease my chain and parts as well as remove a rogue rubber bung that has seated itself at the bottom of the frame, and in doing so have had to remove the BB. As they have said, whoever went to remove the BB would have encountered the same problem. It was so tight and beyond the recommended 42nm that it was almost impossible to shift. They have been so good as to picture the issue, and go direct to the same supplier who supplied all the parts to make the bike good, and name bike shop 1 in an attempt to gain some support and ask of some financial recourse from me. Of course the work of bike shop 1 can never be proved, however they have been the only people who worked on the bike since I bought it new a year ago. Its a complex mechanical issue, and I struggle to explain it further, needless to say I have full trust in shop 2 and with their level of explanation, workmanship and effort I have full trust in them.
As for bike shop 2 they are a very long established business and the same mechanic dealing with this used to work on my mountain biles 6 years ago. He is well known for his ability and wish to please, plus his work has always been bang on.
There are loads more failures from bike shop 1 which I haven't even gone into in depth. Suffice to say, when you drop a bike off damaged, at the shop you bought it from, then hear nothing for the 6 days it has been there, and then collect it and take it home to have to put the chain back on the cog yourself and determine the gears and bike are ok, leaves a great deal of hard feeling. And this is just the start. There is so much more.
Result is, that I get my Carbon bike back soon, either with extra cost or not, but, I get it back. That for me is the ultimate result. And hopefully, the 1k I have spend getting it repaired may be met by her insurer in the future, but to be honest, I have learnt a bigger lesson.
Just don;t f
king crash and for fk sake DO NOT trust shiny spangly bike shops who just want to sell you stuff and don't look after your needs first.
As for the original bike write off, and the insurance fraud that bubbles from it, I have no comment.
And I have decided to lay off this thread for a bit as it's nothing about Cipollini anymore. I'll post a pic of the Rosa next week when it's back. Having managed to shuffle the winter steed around my clubs 40 mile raining ride at over 21mph this morning I'm pretty excited to see it back all fixed and greased. Great to have it for the first time deconstructed and dealt with properly, rather than taken out the box and built up quick to sell.
The bike is fixed. It's done ( I have seen it ). The bill is correct as it has been totted up in my presence. It's all familar and direct from the supplier that was used when I bought the bike. Bike Shop 2 have saved the day, and spent hours explaining, showing and "doing". Bike shop 1 have been, as always, slow, unresponsive and totally wrong. Parts they said were unavailable were available, things they said were unfixable have been fixed, and time they could have spent explaining anything to me has been non existant.
The crank / BB is just a glitch. I have had so much science and explanation about why / how / when and where the crank and BB or both would have done what they have done, it all boils down to bike shop 1. They serviced the BB not so long ago due to a creak, bike shop 2 have finished my repair job and gone to degrease my chain and parts as well as remove a rogue rubber bung that has seated itself at the bottom of the frame, and in doing so have had to remove the BB. As they have said, whoever went to remove the BB would have encountered the same problem. It was so tight and beyond the recommended 42nm that it was almost impossible to shift. They have been so good as to picture the issue, and go direct to the same supplier who supplied all the parts to make the bike good, and name bike shop 1 in an attempt to gain some support and ask of some financial recourse from me. Of course the work of bike shop 1 can never be proved, however they have been the only people who worked on the bike since I bought it new a year ago. Its a complex mechanical issue, and I struggle to explain it further, needless to say I have full trust in shop 2 and with their level of explanation, workmanship and effort I have full trust in them.
As for bike shop 2 they are a very long established business and the same mechanic dealing with this used to work on my mountain biles 6 years ago. He is well known for his ability and wish to please, plus his work has always been bang on.
There are loads more failures from bike shop 1 which I haven't even gone into in depth. Suffice to say, when you drop a bike off damaged, at the shop you bought it from, then hear nothing for the 6 days it has been there, and then collect it and take it home to have to put the chain back on the cog yourself and determine the gears and bike are ok, leaves a great deal of hard feeling. And this is just the start. There is so much more.
Result is, that I get my Carbon bike back soon, either with extra cost or not, but, I get it back. That for me is the ultimate result. And hopefully, the 1k I have spend getting it repaired may be met by her insurer in the future, but to be honest, I have learnt a bigger lesson.
Just don;t f
king crash and for fk sake DO NOT trust shiny spangly bike shops who just want to sell you stuff and don't look after your needs first.As for the original bike write off, and the insurance fraud that bubbles from it, I have no comment.
And I have decided to lay off this thread for a bit as it's nothing about Cipollini anymore. I'll post a pic of the Rosa next week when it's back. Having managed to shuffle the winter steed around my clubs 40 mile raining ride at over 21mph this morning I'm pretty excited to see it back all fixed and greased. Great to have it for the first time deconstructed and dealt with properly, rather than taken out the box and built up quick to sell.
Edited by Dizeee on Saturday 31st May 23:07
Beyond Rational said:
Who wants to put money on this bike not 'feeling' the same after the first ride?
No thanks. This is the biggest mountain out of a molehill I've ever read and after reading the other posts about folding seats to reduce weight, I realise I was wrong to be concerned for the OP's mental health - it's just his approach to everything that's bizarre.
So much science ina BB. Thread draining you
I'll post a pic of the Rosa next week...
Next week? I'm close to spunking with the excitement. Hurry up!
Having managed to shuffle the winter steed around my clubs 40 mile raining ride...
Awww, didums. I bet you got shunned at the coffee shop too. How dare you be seen on a bike made of the wrong material. I mean, it may have cost £1K and be perfectly acceptable everywhere else, but here, carbon counts. And the less said about those folk who use bikes made out of gas pipe cutoffs, the better...
Still, you'll have yourTaiwanese open mould Italian thoroughbred showpony back soon. All will be right at the back of the group with the world...
EDIT: Tell me, when you weren't defying the laws of physics with a Corsa, did you play golf before taking up cycling?
Next week? I'm close to spunking with the excitement. Hurry up!
Having managed to shuffle the winter steed around my clubs 40 mile raining ride...
Awww, didums. I bet you got shunned at the coffee shop too. How dare you be seen on a bike made of the wrong material. I mean, it may have cost £1K and be perfectly acceptable everywhere else, but here, carbon counts. And the less said about those folk who use bikes made out of gas pipe cutoffs, the better...
Still, you'll have your
EDIT: Tell me, when you weren't defying the laws of physics with a Corsa, did you play golf before taking up cycling?
Edited by Jimbo. on Sunday 1st June 15:17
Edited by Jimbo. on Sunday 1st June 15:19
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