Carrera TDF £199 today

Carrera TDF £199 today

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jamiebae

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6,245 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Type R Tom said:
So what’s the general consensus, this at £211 or sticking that money on a second hand bike on Ebay for the GF?
Probably this (it's £199 as you get 10% Off at the checkout) as a £200 bike on eBay will probably be fairly tired and shabby.

D1bram

1,500 posts

171 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Type R Tom said:
So what’s the general consensus, this at £211 or sticking that money on a second hand bike on Ebay for the GF?
Tom,

Once you add to checkout the price drops to £199.

Being a member of British Cycling drops it again by 10% to £179.

OK it cost me £28 this morning for the British Cycling membership, so £207 spent all in, but I have the benefit of that membership now too.

I don't think you'll get much better for £180 personally and it's new with a warranty. smile

pembo

1,204 posts

193 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Do they only do the ladies bikes in tiny sizes? I'd probably pick one of these up for the OH but she would need a 52/54 and they don't seem to have them.

80sMatchbox

3,891 posts

176 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Those Sora shifters aren't that bad. I've read it so often that people don't like them.

I recently did a 180km ride on my Allez with said shifters due to having a problem with my 105 equipped SuperSix. Granted they aren't 105 smooth, but they do the job quite well. I hadn't used that bike for about 6 months but after a few miles and a few missed shifts, I soon got used to the thumb shifters.

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TheLemming

4,319 posts

265 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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80sMatchbox said:
Those Sora shifters aren't that bad. I've read it so often that people don't like them.

I recently did a 180km ride on my Allez with said shifters due to having a problem with my 105 equipped SuperSix. Granted they aren't 105 smooth, but they do the job quite well. I hadn't used that bike for about 6 months but after a few miles and a few missed shifts, I soon got used to the thumb shifters.

smile
Unfortunately the TDF Limited edition on sale isn't the same as the regular TDF. It's Shimano Tourney 7 speed...

jamiebae

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6,245 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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TheLemming said:
80sMatchbox said:
Those Sora shifters aren't that bad. I've read it so often that people don't like them.

I recently did a 180km ride on my Allez with said shifters due to having a problem with my 105 equipped SuperSix. Granted they aren't 105 smooth, but they do the job quite well. I hadn't used that bike for about 6 months but after a few miles and a few missed shifts, I soon got used to the thumb shifters.

smile
Unfortunately the TDF Limited edition on sale isn't the same as the regular TDF. It's Shimano Tourney 7 speed...
They're the same shifters as Sora was a few years ago though (and 2300 was last year), just 7 speed not 8 or 9. Personally I don't like them but they're not totally horrible.

b19rak

369 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I feel like pulling the trigger on one today. I've been looking at one of these for the last few weeks. The fact that i can get it for £199 today is a no brainer.

However, Do i go for the cheap £199 LTD edition or just get the normal TDF at £270? Which one has the better components??


jamiebae

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6,245 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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The cheap one has worse bits, but a compact chainset. The normal version has Claris shifters (much better) but a rubbish non-compact chainset so I'd say it isn't worth the extra. For £300 buy a Triban from Decathlon instead.

b19rak

369 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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jamiebae said:
The cheap one has worse bits, but a compact chainset. The normal version has Claris shifters (much better) but a rubbish non-compact chainset so I'd say it isn't worth the extra. For £300 buy a Triban from Decathlon instead.
Ok then, the £199 LTD edition or the Triban at £300. I just want a road bike as an alternative to my heavy mountain bike with chunky rubber for doing a few miles to improve fitness. I'm not going to be doing megamiles but maybe 5-10 miles few evenings a week. I'll keep my mountain bike for the winter and off road canal towpaths.

Usget

5,426 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Triban. Always the Triban. They're nearly 2kg less, for a start.

mickymellon1

371 posts

165 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Usget said:
Triban. Always the Triban. They're nearly 2kg less, for a start.
buy in store, check the gears and that the wheels are true

Fugazi

564 posts

121 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I've seen a few posts on various forums saying how bad the Triban wheels are. Well mine are fine and after nearly 600Km, mostly on the terrible roads in Liverpool with awful surfaces and speed humps on nearly every road, they're still running true. I suppose that being mass produced it's inevitable that a few that will be bad. But you won't be disappointed with the Triban, great bikes. Also if you need a small frame then they're selling off the old red Triban 3 which about £250 and has carbon forks, the newer version (the 300) has steel forks. Still a great bike though, they even have their own owners forum!

Usget

5,426 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Fugazi said:
I've seen a few posts on various forums saying how bad the Triban wheels are. Well mine are fine and after nearly 600Km, mostly on the terrible roads in Liverpool with awful surfaces and speed humps on nearly every road, they're still running true. I suppose that being mass produced it's inevitable that a few that will be bad. But you won't be disappointed with the Triban, great bikes. Also if you need a small frame then they're selling off the old red Triban 3 which about £250 and has carbon forks, the newer version (the 300) has steel forks. Still a great bike though, they even have their own owners forum!
In all fairness, the wheels on mine weighed so much they nearly formed a critical mass. But I replaced them with RS11s for £80. Easy and significant upgrade.

Fugazi

564 posts

121 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Yeah they're not exactly light... Won't bother replacing mine till I really need too, supposed to cycling to save money. In fairness I probably spend more now than when I was commuting by car laugh

oOTomOo

594 posts

191 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I've had a Zelos for a few weeks now, which looks like an almost identical bike on paper.

Mine had a 120mm stem on which I've just swapped for a 60mm as it was a bit of a stretch for me.
Also, the rear cassette, which is actually a free wheel is a 7 speed 14-28, on the compact chain ring there's plenty for going up hills but not much for coming down. I've bought a 7 speed 11-28 cassette which I'll be putting on some new R501 rims soon.

It's the first bike I've ridden since I was a kid and my first experience of a road bike. It's pretty solid to ride and is certainly nice enough for starting out on and getting my fitness up.

It's not as nice as a 4-500 quid bike, it's pretty heavy and has the thumb shifters. But it is half the price.


b19rak

369 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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b19rak said:
Ok then, the £199 LTD edition or the Triban at £300. I just want a road bike as an alternative to my heavy mountain bike with chunky rubber for doing a few miles to improve fitness. I'm not going to be doing megamiles but maybe 5-10 miles few evenings a week. I'll keep my mountain bike for the winter and off road canal towpaths.
Had a good chat with the Halfords bike guy today. He basically said the LTD edition is a budget version of the TDF and that is a much better bike. I will have a look at the Triban bikes first thou as there is a Decathlon in Coventry.

TheLemming

4,319 posts

265 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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b19rak said:
Had a good chat with the Halfords bike guy today. He basically said the LTD edition is a budget version of the TDF and that is a much better bike. I will have a look at the Triban bikes first thou as there is a Decathlon in Coventry.
I've got a regular tdf. The upgrade route for it is "buy another bike" (I did - I'm up to 6 having recently sold one).
TBH the regular TDF isn't a bad bike, its just all bottom of the line and overgeared.

The limited is heavier and lower spec across the board - I'd rate it borderline BSO territory. Not quite, but its a significant downgrade on an already low end road bike.

I've previously recommended the regular TDF (with a "get a triban instead" advice added) but I can't in good conscience advise anyone to buy the downgraded LTD edition.

jamiebae

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6,245 posts

211 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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I'm not sure it's a massive downgrade in return for the lower price, and the addition of a compact chainset is a big plus in favour of the Ltd version. For £200 I'd say it's OK but would agree that the upgrade path is wheels, then buy something else to swap the wheels on to.

b19rak

369 posts

217 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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TheLemming said:
I've got a regular tdf. The upgrade route for it is "buy another bike" (I did - I'm up to 6 having recently sold one).
TBH the regular TDF isn't a bad bike, its just all bottom of the line and overgeared.

The limited is heavier and lower spec across the board - I'd rate it borderline BSO territory. Not quite, but its a significant downgrade on an already low end road bike.

I've previously recommended the regular TDF (with a "get a triban instead" advice added) but I can't in good conscience advise anyone to buy the downgraded LTD edition.
I had a look at the Triban bikes today. I must say they feel a cut above the Carrera bikes. Dilema i now have is do i go for a BTwin 3 or 500se. They also do the same frame with a flat bar called the Fit. That is also tempting. Help me out guys, do i need the carbon fork on the 500se or should i save £80 odd quid and get the 3.

Fugazi

564 posts

121 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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The carbon forks really do help to smooth out the vibrations from the road surface and the 500SE hasn't let me down. Other peopele who have the 300 say pretty much the same but best thing to do is sit on the bikes and have a go. The 500 was a better looking bike in my opinion and the Sora chainset tipped the balance as far as I was concerned as I was originally planning on buying the 300.
As for the bars, well that's up to you. I like the drop bars as it gives me a multitude of positions to rest my hands, however I do miss the flat bars when I'm commuting sometimes but I much prefer riding a road bike over my old hybrid.



Edited by Fugazi on Friday 25th July 15:03