Does This Bike Exist?
Discussion
ecsrobin said:
ALawson said:
Do you still fit in the navigator flight suit?!
Wine gums are another poison, red and blacks......or Haribo Bears!
I wasn't a nav or a pilot Wine gums are another poison, red and blacks......or Haribo Bears!
but my biggest problem was short legs long body in my flight suits. The problem is when thinking about giving up I go for a ride so take buttery flapjacks or jelly babies damn you energy.
Anyway back to topic.
So are you going to size the Ti bike up or have you seen anything else Dr_gn
That Trek one looks pretty good too.
I appreciate all the suggestions and advice from this thread - I didn't think there would be as many options. Maybe my initial requirements weren't that odd after all.
Dr Imran T said:
Dammit said:
On-One Dirty Disco?
this one looks good.frame geometry look decent as well.
I would avoid a bike with a stupidly long head tube - seen some 'race' bike with 20+ cm headtubes and a very upright position.
Let us know which one you decide.
You owe the chap who provided the discount code a pint should you go down that route
worked out a significant saving with that code.GaryGlitter said:
The discount code is kosher and can be used by anyone for any purchase, it's part of a bet the MD has made with all staff as he reckons he can sell more stuff than all the other staff.
Disclaimer - I'm not and never have been employed by PX and get no benefit from anyone using the code. There are other codes in circulation (on Bikeradar for one).
Thanks.Disclaimer - I'm not and never have been employed by PX and get no benefit from anyone using the code. There are other codes in circulation (on Bikeradar for one).
Who is the best person to deal with at PX Rotherham? The first time I went with some pals and we spoke to someone who was pretty switched on, possibly the owner, but a couple of other times I've been in and the staff seemed a bit clueless. Obviously I want to deal with someone who can make a decision on price and who knows the stock.
So I went to Planet-X at lunchtime. I discussed it a bit with the staff, and I left with the following to think about:
What I would say is that the Pickenflick frame does look superb, and the hydraulic discs seem pretty neat too. If anyone is interested you've got until 2nd December to buy the last one they have at that price.
Cheers.
- Re. the Ti Pickenflick: The discount code is valid until December 2nd - gives a discount of £320 - takes it down to £1280. They've got one bike left, can't change the spec. (off-road tyres, skinny seat etc). Also no pedals, so these factors would take it even further above my budget, even with the discount.
- Not possible to get it significantly lighter then the 9.7kg listed, since components are not that heavy, and there is a limited choice of wheels with disc hubs, so it would be heavier than I'd like.
- Ti frame has a 10 year guarantee.
- Assistant questioned whether it was worth getting a cyclocross frame if I never go off road - extra weight for no reason. Apparently their road bikes weren't extreme geometry to start with, and can be adapted further to be more comfortable.
- Narrow tyres no big deal around here unless doing massive rides.
- The London Road and Dirty Disco are pretty similar to the Pickenflick in terms of the comments re. weight., but to my eyes they look a bit cheap and nasty.
What I would say is that the Pickenflick frame does look superb, and the hydraulic discs seem pretty neat too. If anyone is interested you've got until 2nd December to buy the last one they have at that price.
Cheers.
TheLemming said:
dr_gn said:
So I went to Planet-X at lunchtime. I discussed it a bit with the staff, and I left with the following to think about:
What I would say is that the Pickenflick frame does look superb, and the hydraulic discs seem pretty neat too. If anyone is interested you've got until 2nd December to buy the last one they have at that price.
Cheers.
Still tempted by one of those myself - its insanely cheap for a hydro 22 speed gruppo and a to frame.- Re. the Ti Pickenflick: The discount code is valid until December 2nd - gives a discount of £320 - takes it down to £1280. They've got one bike left, can't change the spec. (off-road tyres, skinny seat etc). Also no pedals, so these factors would take it even further above my budget, even with the discount.
- Not possible to get it significantly lighter then the 9.7kg listed, since components are not that heavy, and there is a limited choice of wheels with disc hubs, so it would be heavier than I'd like.
- Ti frame has a 10 year guarantee.
- Assistant questioned whether it was worth getting a cyclocross frame if I never go off road - extra weight for no reason. Apparently their road bikes weren't extreme geometry to start with, and can be adapted further to be more comfortable.
- Narrow tyres no big deal around here unless doing massive rides.
- The London Road and Dirty Disco are pretty similar to the Pickenflick in terms of the comments re. weight., but to my eyes they look a bit cheap and nasty.
What I would say is that the Pickenflick frame does look superb, and the hydraulic discs seem pretty neat too. If anyone is interested you've got until 2nd December to buy the last one they have at that price.
Cheers.
There's at least half a kg to save on the wheels - kinesis cross lights are 1500g for £250.
Even with that though its still no lightweight
Yep, maybe it's too early to get everything I want at that budget. I don't feel like spending that kind of money on something I'm not 100% about.
Other option in the meantime is to lighten my old hardtail mountain bike (e.g. remove the Pace MXCD elastomer forks for a start!) and put some road tyres on it. At least I could get some cheap miles in. It's an old Saracen Kili Comp. Does anyone know of any light forks (with mounts for hope C2's) that I could put on it? It was originally a rigid bike IIRC.
I might even be able to get a bit of cash for the pretty much mint condition Pace forks on EBay.
Other option in the meantime is to lighten my old hardtail mountain bike (e.g. remove the Pace MXCD elastomer forks for a start!) and put some road tyres on it. At least I could get some cheap miles in. It's an old Saracen Kili Comp. Does anyone know of any light forks (with mounts for hope C2's) that I could put on it? It was originally a rigid bike IIRC.
I might even be able to get a bit of cash for the pretty much mint condition Pace forks on EBay.
The thinking behind writing a spec. for myself was at least it would be a start in terms of getting some suggestions. I admit I am bemused at the the different sub-variants of road bikes now available especially when on paper many seem identical or at least cover several genres.
So to answer the questions:
Experience:
No I'm not an advanced or competition rider. I've not ridden a road bike for nearly 30 years.
Weight:
I have a budget, and I know that a c. 8kg bike is available for that price, so my thought is why compromise on weight if it's available? I don't want to always be wondering if I should have gone for a lighter bike. I guess for me it's as much psychological as anything.
Frame Material:
My assumption was that carbon would give the best weight of frame, even if heavier/cheaper components were fitted. Having said that, any frame material that is light would be OK, but then we get into another discussion about relative comfort...
Brakes:
I've never really liked rim brakes (as I mentioned) and I think that discs are the way forward even on road bikes. If I eventually buy a bike, I won't be changing it for years, so I don't want to wish I'd waited and got a disc specific frame.
Groupset:
I've always had LX/XT components on my mountian bikes, and decent forks and finishing kit. If I buy what I'd consider a compromise, I'd end up swapping it sooner or later (usually sooner) at more cost.
New/Used/Borrow:
I have indeed considered second hand, but ideally I'd buy form someone I know (a lot of my colleagues ride road bikes and some have several). I've asked, but at the moment nobody has anything for sale. I'd be happy to spend, say £600 on a used road bike to try, and sell it on should something else become available. The problem is finding the right used bike...I'm not sure I know of any bikes I could borrow.
That's about it really. There's no way I'm spending £1000+ without very careful consideration, it's taken a lot of saving. I'm serious about getting a road bike, but if I can't figure out what to get I'll simply not bother and keep riding one of my mountain bikes on the road until something that looks right comes along.
Bottom line is I know that some of the above may seem illogical, but I know that I'm more likely to ride a bike because it has certain features rather than because I actually need certain features. That's the honest truth!
So to answer the questions:
Experience:
No I'm not an advanced or competition rider. I've not ridden a road bike for nearly 30 years.
Weight:
I have a budget, and I know that a c. 8kg bike is available for that price, so my thought is why compromise on weight if it's available? I don't want to always be wondering if I should have gone for a lighter bike. I guess for me it's as much psychological as anything.
Frame Material:
My assumption was that carbon would give the best weight of frame, even if heavier/cheaper components were fitted. Having said that, any frame material that is light would be OK, but then we get into another discussion about relative comfort...
Brakes:
I've never really liked rim brakes (as I mentioned) and I think that discs are the way forward even on road bikes. If I eventually buy a bike, I won't be changing it for years, so I don't want to wish I'd waited and got a disc specific frame.
Groupset:
I've always had LX/XT components on my mountian bikes, and decent forks and finishing kit. If I buy what I'd consider a compromise, I'd end up swapping it sooner or later (usually sooner) at more cost.
New/Used/Borrow:
I have indeed considered second hand, but ideally I'd buy form someone I know (a lot of my colleagues ride road bikes and some have several). I've asked, but at the moment nobody has anything for sale. I'd be happy to spend, say £600 on a used road bike to try, and sell it on should something else become available. The problem is finding the right used bike...I'm not sure I know of any bikes I could borrow.
That's about it really. There's no way I'm spending £1000+ without very careful consideration, it's taken a lot of saving. I'm serious about getting a road bike, but if I can't figure out what to get I'll simply not bother and keep riding one of my mountain bikes on the road until something that looks right comes along.
Bottom line is I know that some of the above may seem illogical, but I know that I'm more likely to ride a bike because it has certain features rather than because I actually need certain features. That's the honest truth!
mikees said:
dr_gn said:
GaryGlitter said:
Code can be used online or instore, and it's publicly available so don't worry about using it.
Not sure what the issue of getting hammered by riding on 23mm tyres is, unless you have a medical condition. I ride in the Peak District almost every week in 23mm.
Sorry, I missed that the first time. Cheers.Not sure what the issue of getting hammered by riding on 23mm tyres is, unless you have a medical condition. I ride in the Peak District almost every week in 23mm.
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FBPXSLP105/planet-x-p...
Seems cheaper than some ebay deals for same bike !
Mike
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