Does This Bike Exist?
Discussion
ecsrobin said:
ALawson said:
Do you still fit in the navigator flight suit?!
Wine gums are another poison, red and blacks......or Haribo Bears!
I wasn't a nav or a pilot Wine gums are another poison, red and blacks......or Haribo Bears!
but my biggest problem was short legs long body in my flight suits. The problem is when thinking about giving up I go for a ride so take buttery flapjacks or jelly babies damn you energy.
Anyway back to topic.
So are you going to size the Ti bike up or have you seen anything else Dr_gn
That Trek one looks pretty good too.
I appreciate all the suggestions and advice from this thread - I didn't think there would be as many options. Maybe my initial requirements weren't that odd after all.
Dammit said:
On-One Dirty Disco?
this one looks good.frame geometry look decent as well.
I would avoid a bike with a stupidly long head tube - seen some 'race' bike with 20+ cm headtubes and a very upright position.
Let us know which one you decide.
You owe the chap who provided the discount code a pint should you go down that route
worked out a significant saving with that code.Dr Imran T said:
Dammit said:
On-One Dirty Disco?
this one looks good.frame geometry look decent as well.
I would avoid a bike with a stupidly long head tube - seen some 'race' bike with 20+ cm headtubes and a very upright position.
Let us know which one you decide.
You owe the chap who provided the discount code a pint should you go down that route
worked out a significant saving with that code.The discount code is kosher and can be used by anyone for any purchase, it's part of a bet the MD has made with all staff as he reckons he can sell more stuff than all the other staff.
Disclaimer - I'm not and never have been employed by PX and get no benefit from anyone using the code. There are other codes in circulation (on Bikeradar for one).
Disclaimer - I'm not and never have been employed by PX and get no benefit from anyone using the code. There are other codes in circulation (on Bikeradar for one).
GaryGlitter said:
The discount code is kosher and can be used by anyone for any purchase, it's part of a bet the MD has made with all staff as he reckons he can sell more stuff than all the other staff.
Disclaimer - I'm not and never have been employed by PX and get no benefit from anyone using the code. There are other codes in circulation (on Bikeradar for one).
Thanks.Disclaimer - I'm not and never have been employed by PX and get no benefit from anyone using the code. There are other codes in circulation (on Bikeradar for one).
Who is the best person to deal with at PX Rotherham? The first time I went with some pals and we spoke to someone who was pretty switched on, possibly the owner, but a couple of other times I've been in and the staff seemed a bit clueless. Obviously I want to deal with someone who can make a decision on price and who knows the stock.
So I went to Planet-X at lunchtime. I discussed it a bit with the staff, and I left with the following to think about:
What I would say is that the Pickenflick frame does look superb, and the hydraulic discs seem pretty neat too. If anyone is interested you've got until 2nd December to buy the last one they have at that price.
Cheers.
- Re. the Ti Pickenflick: The discount code is valid until December 2nd - gives a discount of £320 - takes it down to £1280. They've got one bike left, can't change the spec. (off-road tyres, skinny seat etc). Also no pedals, so these factors would take it even further above my budget, even with the discount.
- Not possible to get it significantly lighter then the 9.7kg listed, since components are not that heavy, and there is a limited choice of wheels with disc hubs, so it would be heavier than I'd like.
- Ti frame has a 10 year guarantee.
- Assistant questioned whether it was worth getting a cyclocross frame if I never go off road - extra weight for no reason. Apparently their road bikes weren't extreme geometry to start with, and can be adapted further to be more comfortable.
- Narrow tyres no big deal around here unless doing massive rides.
- The London Road and Dirty Disco are pretty similar to the Pickenflick in terms of the comments re. weight., but to my eyes they look a bit cheap and nasty.
What I would say is that the Pickenflick frame does look superb, and the hydraulic discs seem pretty neat too. If anyone is interested you've got until 2nd December to buy the last one they have at that price.
Cheers.
dr_gn said:
So I went to Planet-X at lunchtime. I discussed it a bit with the staff, and I left with the following to think about:
What I would say is that the Pickenflick frame does look superb, and the hydraulic discs seem pretty neat too. If anyone is interested you've got until 2nd December to buy the last one they have at that price.
Cheers.
Still tempted by one of those myself - its insanely cheap for a hydro 22 speed gruppo and a to frame.- Re. the Ti Pickenflick: The discount code is valid until December 2nd - gives a discount of £320 - takes it down to £1280. They've got one bike left, can't change the spec. (off-road tyres, skinny seat etc). Also no pedals, so these factors would take it even further above my budget, even with the discount.
- Not possible to get it significantly lighter then the 9.7kg listed, since components are not that heavy, and there is a limited choice of wheels with disc hubs, so it would be heavier than I'd like.
- Ti frame has a 10 year guarantee.
- Assistant questioned whether it was worth getting a cyclocross frame if I never go off road - extra weight for no reason. Apparently their road bikes weren't extreme geometry to start with, and can be adapted further to be more comfortable.
- Narrow tyres no big deal around here unless doing massive rides.
- The London Road and Dirty Disco are pretty similar to the Pickenflick in terms of the comments re. weight., but to my eyes they look a bit cheap and nasty.
What I would say is that the Pickenflick frame does look superb, and the hydraulic discs seem pretty neat too. If anyone is interested you've got until 2nd December to buy the last one they have at that price.
Cheers.
There's at least half a kg to save on the wheels - kinesis cross lights are 1500g for £250.
Even with that though its still no lightweight
TheLemming said:
dr_gn said:
So I went to Planet-X at lunchtime. I discussed it a bit with the staff, and I left with the following to think about:
What I would say is that the Pickenflick frame does look superb, and the hydraulic discs seem pretty neat too. If anyone is interested you've got until 2nd December to buy the last one they have at that price.
Cheers.
Still tempted by one of those myself - its insanely cheap for a hydro 22 speed gruppo and a to frame.- Re. the Ti Pickenflick: The discount code is valid until December 2nd - gives a discount of £320 - takes it down to £1280. They've got one bike left, can't change the spec. (off-road tyres, skinny seat etc). Also no pedals, so these factors would take it even further above my budget, even with the discount.
- Not possible to get it significantly lighter then the 9.7kg listed, since components are not that heavy, and there is a limited choice of wheels with disc hubs, so it would be heavier than I'd like.
- Ti frame has a 10 year guarantee.
- Assistant questioned whether it was worth getting a cyclocross frame if I never go off road - extra weight for no reason. Apparently their road bikes weren't extreme geometry to start with, and can be adapted further to be more comfortable.
- Narrow tyres no big deal around here unless doing massive rides.
- The London Road and Dirty Disco are pretty similar to the Pickenflick in terms of the comments re. weight., but to my eyes they look a bit cheap and nasty.
What I would say is that the Pickenflick frame does look superb, and the hydraulic discs seem pretty neat too. If anyone is interested you've got until 2nd December to buy the last one they have at that price.
Cheers.
There's at least half a kg to save on the wheels - kinesis cross lights are 1500g for £250.
Even with that though its still no lightweight
dr_gn said:
Comparing it directly with a carbon road bike in the showroom, it is not a light bike. The calipers do look very neat, and the frame is a thing of beauty, although the stickers need removing asap. The wheels don't look anything special, but £250 to upgrade...no way.
There are cheaper, but there aren't better that are cheaper (that I've found).I may have to abandon the idea. I figure I can get it to 8.5 kg with seat post / saddle / wheels but thats the current figure on the scales for my current CX bike....
Its still a mahoosive bargain but not a huge upgrade over my current bike.
Worth mentioning the defy advance and next years Boardman SLS will have discs too. Both endurance geometry and relatively lightweight carbon. Both unfortunately blow the budget though.
I suspect it will be a couple of years before the discs + lightweight carbon setup reaches that price range.
TheLemming said:
dr_gn said:
Comparing it directly with a carbon road bike in the showroom, it is not a light bike. The calipers do look very neat, and the frame is a thing of beauty, although the stickers need removing asap. The wheels don't look anything special, but £250 to upgrade...no way.
There are cheaper, but there aren't better that are cheaper (that I've found).I may have to abandon the idea. I figure I can get it to 8.5 kg with seat post / saddle / wheels but thats the current figure on the scales for my current CX bike....
Its still a mahoosive bargain but not a huge upgrade over my current bike.
Worth mentioning the defy advance and next years Boardman SLS will have discs too. Both endurance geometry and relatively lightweight carbon. Both unfortunately blow the budget though.
I suspect it will be a couple of years before the discs + lightweight carbon setup reaches that price range.
Yep, maybe it's too early to get everything I want at that budget. I don't feel like spending that kind of money on something I'm not 100% about.
Other option in the meantime is to lighten my old hardtail mountain bike (e.g. remove the Pace MXCD elastomer forks for a start!) and put some road tyres on it. At least I could get some cheap miles in. It's an old Saracen Kili Comp. Does anyone know of any light forks (with mounts for hope C2's) that I could put on it? It was originally a rigid bike IIRC.
I might even be able to get a bit of cash for the pretty much mint condition Pace forks on EBay.
Other option in the meantime is to lighten my old hardtail mountain bike (e.g. remove the Pace MXCD elastomer forks for a start!) and put some road tyres on it. At least I could get some cheap miles in. It's an old Saracen Kili Comp. Does anyone know of any light forks (with mounts for hope C2's) that I could put on it? It was originally a rigid bike IIRC.
I might even be able to get a bit of cash for the pretty much mint condition Pace forks on EBay.
What about the Suffolk? - I realise that it fails on not being carbon but it has the HYRD brakes which are supposed to give kind of hyrdraulic feel and power but work with cable levers.
http://whyte.bike/gb/models/commuterroad/rd-7-road...
It's also overweight, but within budget.
FWIW I've got a '14 Whyte with promax cable operated discs and I’m probably going to try to get hold of one of the HYRD sets for the front at least. The way they self adjust as they wear sounds good.
http://road.cc/content/review/85499-trp-hyrd-mecha...
http://whyte.bike/gb/models/commuterroad/rd-7-road...
It's also overweight, but within budget.
FWIW I've got a '14 Whyte with promax cable operated discs and I’m probably going to try to get hold of one of the HYRD sets for the front at least. The way they self adjust as they wear sounds good.
http://road.cc/content/review/85499-trp-hyrd-mecha...
why is the weight of the bike so critical to you? are you competing or an advanced rider?
Sure we all love a 'light' bike but there is a LOT more to a bike than ultimate weight.
If you still want a very high spec bike and are on a strict budget then you may now need to look at second hand bikes.
It just takes time searching. First you need to be totally clear with what you want - I'm not sure you are yet
Sure we all love a 'light' bike but there is a LOT more to a bike than ultimate weight.
If you still want a very high spec bike and are on a strict budget then you may now need to look at second hand bikes.
It just takes time searching. First you need to be totally clear with what you want - I'm not sure you are yet
Dr Imran T said:
why is the weight of the bike so critical to you? are you competing or an advanced rider?
Sure we all love a 'light' bike but there is a LOT more to a bike than ultimate weight.
If you still want a very high spec bike and are on a strict budget then you may now need to look at second hand bikes.
It just takes time searching. First you need to be totally clear with what you want - I'm not sure you are yet
Indeed I agree with this, always makes me laugh when I ride with people who go on about saving 15 grams on a seat post and then have 2 stone of pie and beer round their waist.Sure we all love a 'light' bike but there is a LOT more to a bike than ultimate weight.
If you still want a very high spec bike and are on a strict budget then you may now need to look at second hand bikes.
It just takes time searching. First you need to be totally clear with what you want - I'm not sure you are yet
In fact I wanted a bit more weight for my winter bike, as my summer bike was too twitchy on fast descents
I'm not saying weight is not relevant all the time, when I was doing hill climb events and times were very close then of course it was beneficial, but I made sure I was down to 10 stone before I saved macro weight on the bike and pissing about with marginal weight loss by swapping parts
OP: have you done much road riding on a road bike? Sounds like you haven't. If not I would try and borrow a bike to put some miles on, then you can get a really proven idea of what you want
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