Steve Abraham - One Year Time Trial.
Discussion
okgo said:
The club runs speed in florida are probably 3mph+ on average than here. So a quick club run over there would look to average getting on for 25mph because its just SO flat and easy (though warm in the summer of course) vs somewhere like the UK. If I were going to do it, it would be somewhere like that.
I don't really pay any attention to HR, it doesn't really tell us much, his max could be 140 for all we know.
If I were going to do it would be via the comfort of my bed and REM sleep. I don't really pay any attention to HR, it doesn't really tell us much, his max could be 140 for all we know.
Personally I kind of hope the record stands given the gulf between the bike, clothes, nutrition, training suppport, etc, etc. I remember my father talking about racing in the 50s on bamboo rims FFS. The ONLY advantage between then and now is the lack of traffic on the roads.
Edited by rhinochopig on Wednesday 21st January 17:07
TKF said:
There is an American attempting it too. Some of the numbers from his rides are astonishing.
http://app.strava.com/activities/243448686
211 miles
831 feet
18.9mph
95bpm
I think the most astonishing thing about the Americans' figures is just how flat the area he's riding in is!http://app.strava.com/activities/243448686
211 miles
831 feet
18.9mph
95bpm
His January figures were 4,512 miles with 38,471ft climbing compared to Steven Abraham's 5,743 miles with 167,177ft climbing.
neenaw said:
I think the most astonishing thing about the Americans' figures is just how flat the area he's riding in is!
His January figures were 4,512 miles with 38,471ft climbing compared to Steven Abraham's 5,743 miles with 167,177ft climbing.
Thats over 4 times the elevation which is pretty significant!His January figures were 4,512 miles with 38,471ft climbing compared to Steven Abraham's 5,743 miles with 167,177ft climbing.
neenaw said:
TKF said:
There is an American attempting it too. Some of the numbers from his rides are astonishing.
http://app.strava.com/activities/243448686
211 miles
831 feet
18.9mph
95bpm
I think the most astonishing thing about the Americans' figures is just how flat the area he's riding in is!http://app.strava.com/activities/243448686
211 miles
831 feet
18.9mph
95bpm
His January figures were 4,512 miles with 38,471ft climbing compared to Steven Abraham's 5,743 miles with 167,177ft climbing.
There's a bloke from Richmond (who last year broke the record for most miles in a week) who is putting in mega miles in Australia at the moment too, but I don't know if he is officially gunning for the OYTT or not.
Edit - looks like he was just smashing it for a month. 10,000km, not too bad I suppose...
Edited by Usget on Friday 6th February 17:17
Usget said:
I noticed the same thing, he did a 200 mile ride back in January with 500ft of climbing! I cover 200ft on my 11 mile ride to work... and that feels flat!
There's a bloke from Richmond (who last year broke the record for most miles in a week) who is putting in mega miles in Australia at the moment too, but I don't know if he is officially gunning for the OYTT or not.
Na, he does it each yearThere's a bloke from Richmond (who last year broke the record for most miles in a week) who is putting in mega miles in Australia at the moment too, but I don't know if he is officially gunning for the OYTT or not.
He broke the record for most miles in a month, the month of January.
http://road.cc/content/news/141773-bruce-berkeley-...
http://road.cc/content/news/141773-bruce-berkeley-...
Edited by okgo on Friday 6th February 17:25
The chap in the states seems to be pretty efficient, scroll down for the graph:
http://trackleaders.com/oneyeartimetrial15
Being very boring I'm hoping there'll be a breakdown of parts replaced, punctures repaired, all of that kind of stuff at the end of this. He's going to be doing what is for me and for most over a lifetimes worth of commuting in a year.
http://trackleaders.com/oneyeartimetrial15
Being very boring I'm hoping there'll be a breakdown of parts replaced, punctures repaired, all of that kind of stuff at the end of this. He's going to be doing what is for me and for most over a lifetimes worth of commuting in a year.
i'm following steve abraham and kurt searvogel on strava and i've got to say whatever kurt finally achieves this year fundamentally should be discounted. the record was set initially by tommy godwin in the uk so parameters for beating the record should really be set otherwise the record could go to effectively a charlatan - yes i mean you kurt...
there should be a minimum amount of climbing that should be achieved as part of the record. the stats to date are:
Steve:
77 rides
14,738 miles
414,000 ft elevation gain
Kurt:
77 rides
13,739 miles
166,000 ft elevation gain
Essentially steve has approx 3 times the elevation gain of kurt. basically kurt doesn't know he born, he's practically riding downhill all day.
it's an utter nonsense.
there should be a minimum amount of climbing that should be achieved as part of the record. the stats to date are:
Steve:
77 rides
14,738 miles
414,000 ft elevation gain
Kurt:
77 rides
13,739 miles
166,000 ft elevation gain
Essentially steve has approx 3 times the elevation gain of kurt. basically kurt doesn't know he born, he's practically riding downhill all day.
it's an utter nonsense.
I’m in two minds about this.
If Steve had the resources to move somewhere flatter for the year I wonder if he would? He is planning and doing some fairly flat routes but because of his base he’s going to do a lot more climbing by default. Here he managed to get to Richmond North Yorks with less than 6000 feet. Which is still a lot by anyones standard.
https://www.strava.com/activities/242445777
It’s very unfortunate that they’re both going for it this year, and that one of them has a clear geographical advantage.
Looking at the miles they’re both doing I just hope that as the conditions improve here Steve continues to ramp up the mileage and becomes at least the first person to break the record (helped by the fact that Kurt didn’t start in earnest until 10 Jan) if not the ultimate holder of the year record.
If Steve had the resources to move somewhere flatter for the year I wonder if he would? He is planning and doing some fairly flat routes but because of his base he’s going to do a lot more climbing by default. Here he managed to get to Richmond North Yorks with less than 6000 feet. Which is still a lot by anyones standard.
https://www.strava.com/activities/242445777
It’s very unfortunate that they’re both going for it this year, and that one of them has a clear geographical advantage.
Looking at the miles they’re both doing I just hope that as the conditions improve here Steve continues to ramp up the mileage and becomes at least the first person to break the record (helped by the fact that Kurt didn’t start in earnest until 10 Jan) if not the ultimate holder of the year record.
They're both monumental feats of endurance. They're just different feats. If Kurt surpasses Steve's distance - which he certainly should - I don't think it affects the prestige or perceived ranking of Steve's effort and I think he'll still be held up as the unofficial official holder of Tommy's record.
but this is the importance of setting some sort of parameter for this record with respect to total amount climbed. if the record is purely and simple about sitting on a bike and churning out the miles, what's to stop me putting my bike on a treadmill, setting the treadmill to a slight decline and spending the year effectively cycling down hill. i'm sure most people could do that.
the original record must have some stats for climbing, or stats that could be broadly worked out and therefore set as a minimum expectation.
this should form the basis for the record being valid.
it's like running 100m. i believe that records are only valid if there is a tail wind that does not give an unfair advantage over previous records. i stress i believe that to be the case.
the original record must have some stats for climbing, or stats that could be broadly worked out and therefore set as a minimum expectation.
this should form the basis for the record being valid.
it's like running 100m. i believe that records are only valid if there is a tail wind that does not give an unfair advantage over previous records. i stress i believe that to be the case.
Rob_T said:
but this is the importance of setting some sort of parameter for this record with respect to total amount climbed. if the record is purely and simple about sitting on a bike and churning out the miles, what's to stop me putting my bike on a treadmill, setting the treadmill to a slight decline and spending the year effectively cycling down hill. i'm sure most people could do that.
the original record must have some stats for climbing, or stats that could be broadly worked out and therefore set as a minimum expectation.
this should form the basis for the record being valid.
it's like running 100m. i believe that records are only valid if there is a tail wind that does not give an unfair advantage over previous records. i stress i believe that to be the case.
Steve is at a disadvantage to Kurt, but that's hardly Kurt's fault, and calling him a charlatan is ridiculous.the original record must have some stats for climbing, or stats that could be broadly worked out and therefore set as a minimum expectation.
this should form the basis for the record being valid.
it's like running 100m. i believe that records are only valid if there is a tail wind that does not give an unfair advantage over previous records. i stress i believe that to be the case.
Steve was entirely at liberty to do this wherever he liked. He chose the UK (for good reasons).
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