Mavic R-Sys SLR Wheels

Mavic R-Sys SLR Wheels

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CooperS

4,503 posts

219 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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gazza285 said:
nammynake said:
It's all relative though. Nobody needs a carbon frame or fancy GPS or £200 Oakleys or.....
I haven't got any of them either, although I do use a Garmin 500 for heart rate and post race analysis.
Thats a shame i like all the carbon bike, rapha wearing, oakley lovelyness and i dont even ride with a club just get out by myself!

I dont have a pair of deep rims because if i'm going to do it i want to do it properly (enve with CK hubs) but i dont judge anyone for having the money to do it

life is far to short!

TheLemming

4,319 posts

265 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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gazza285 said:
£1000 wheels for a club run bike?
Sounds reasonable.
But hey, nice kit is nice to play with.

Sure it's appropriate for racing and TTs but its still nice.

madzo14

159 posts

122 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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If you have the money then why not, can't take it with you. They will last you ages and who gives a stuff what anyone thinks, if you like them buy them.

Fair play to anyone that can afford to buy a 5/6/7k or more bike or expensive wheelset. They probably have worked hard to pay for it.

okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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madzo14 said:
If you have the money then why not, can't take it with you. They will last you ages and who gives a stuff what anyone thinks, if you like them buy them.

Fair play to anyone that can afford to buy a 5/6/7k or more bike or expensive wheelset. They probably have worked hard to pay for it.
Or stuck it on finance, there is a reason wiggle and sigma etc all offer finance...

CooperS

4,503 posts

219 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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okgo said:
madzo14 said:
If you have the money then why not, can't take it with you. They will last you ages and who gives a stuff what anyone thinks, if you like them buy them.

Fair play to anyone that can afford to buy a 5/6/7k or more bike or expensive wheelset. They probably have worked hard to pay for it.
Or stuck it on finance, there is a reason wiggle and sigma etc all offer finance...
GRRrrrrr all those people using those widely used and accepted financial instruments to fund life style purchases!!!!! They'll be buying cars using finance next and they'll never own them FOOLS!!!!!!

okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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CooperS said:
GRRrrrrr all those people using those widely used and accepted financial instruments to fund life style purchases!!!!! They'll be buying cars using finance next and they'll never own them FOOLS!!!!!!
Anyone who wants to finance stuff that loses half its value almost straight away is welcome to it, fools and their money.

Just because other people do it, it doesn't mean its remotely intelligent.

stongle

5,910 posts

162 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Good grief is this thread about wheels or Dizzee’s riding objectives & ability?

I’d be asking myself if I wanted a bike that looked fast or rather “is” fast (or by extension go faster).

If the former, these wheels will fulfill that objective. The latter, I’d look at the whole system first then the wheels (but that’s just me). A grand is a lot of money, but not sure they would represent the best leap over what you’ve got.

I took wheel advice here 3 years ago, ended up with Racing Ones (over the Carbones I lusted after). They are OK, fulfilled the job at the time. Since then, moved on a bit. Looking for Aero improvements just in wheels, probably won’t yield any more than changing the mushroom lid for an Evade or a like (subjectively this may / may not make you look like either a bigger banana or bigger brained / savvy).

When the LBS built up my Madone, the brief was to go as light and aero as possible across the board. Luckily I can ride 38cm Aero handlebars, 0.00 stack height 165 cranks, aero rings; they even gave me flexibility exercises. It is about marginal gains / improvements to the whole.

Wheels were the last thing we looked at. After talking me out of Fernwegs (I thought would look extra natty); we went with an Aero optimized wide Carbon wheel (so like a Firecrest or the newer Reynolds, ENVE SES wheels). I think they were of the opinion, if going aero, go Aero. V shape / alloy tracked wheels (the 404 OP mentions is 6/7 years old) / faired wheels whilst looking racy; do not represent good performance value vs today’s alternatives.

I ended up with the Bontrager Aelous D3 50mm (which has plenty of race pedigree), and rides nicely (DT Swiss 240 hubs, and evidently Zipp build the rims). This type of wheel starts a little out of your budget maybe 1500 or less (Easton also do the EC90 55 at this price which is now aero optimized), but well worth looking at – you might even get Wheelsmith to build you something similar for about a grand. I use these as my all year round / winter wheel (never had a problem with braking in the wet with the correct pads). Given their wider aero profile, I’ve never had a problem with snatching and cross wind (although maybe been lucky). The only downside is a bit of rub off the aero brake.

I do have some SES 6.7s (on CK Hubs); but you’d be bloody hard pushed to tell the difference (although one day Jodie Marsh will see me riding them…..).

Is this sensible advice, I dunno. Perhaps the answer really is Fernweg.

okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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I think he was talking about Firecrest zipps?

stongle

5,910 posts

162 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Well that makes even less sense than normal. The other 2 wheelsets are a grand, the Firecrests normally double that? Eh? I though he meant the old style 404s.

If he's putting the Firecrests on the list then, I'd be comparing against Bora Ultras, SES, Reynolds Assault etc etc.


okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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stongle said:
Well that makes even less sense than normal. The other 2 wheelsets are a grand, the Firecrests normally double that? Eh? I though he meant the old style 404s.

If he's putting the Firecrests on the list then, I'd be comparing against Bora Ultras, SES, Reynolds Assault etc etc.
They're always on sale somewhere though.

stongle

5,910 posts

162 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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True, just had a look. At 1500 the Firecrests are a bit of a steal. Why are the Fulcrums and Campagnolos on the comparison list, better stickers?


Dammit

3,790 posts

208 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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I don't think there is a true comparison between the Zipps and the others, it is true.

With ref to the money side of things, the "branded" carbon wheels I've had (Zipps, HED) I've always bought second hand, and have always sold them for within £50 of what I paid for them.

Yes, they are expensive, but (as long as you don't crack them) you get your money back when you move them on.

okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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He's buying new though. £700 gone the minute you ride em.

Dammit

3,790 posts

208 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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You do get a warranty, and crash replacement though I guess.

Dizeee

Original Poster:

18,302 posts

206 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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stongle said:
Well that makes even less sense than normal. The other 2 wheelsets are a grand, the Firecrests normally double that? Eh? I though he meant the old style 404s.

If he's putting the Firecrests on the list then, I'd be comparing against Bora Ultras, SES, Reynolds Assault etc etc.

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True, just had a look. At 1500 the Firecrests are a bit of a steal. Why are the Fulcrums and Campagnolos on the comparison list, better stickers?
You have just summed up my entire thread / choices.

I've narrowed them all down after hefty research. I settled on pretty much the same as your suggestions. My Zipp 404 option is for a current set. £1499 is the price - I have checked it out in depth.... 2014 wheelset / campag, dark label, and at a local bike store to me at an £800+ saving.

Bora Ultra - not made yet. They are coming.





Whatever I get, it's to me a major change. Wheels are the best upgrade to a bike - that's the PH default response. Whatever I get will finish the Merak off and look amazing. It's up to me to make sure I pedal enough to do the bike justice. So far so good and that's for me to worry about.

Maybe I should go 3T :



















Dizeee

Original Poster:

18,302 posts

206 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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stongle said:
True, just had a look. At 1500 the Firecrests are a bit of a steal. Why are the Fulcrums and Campagnolos on the comparison list, better stickers?

Not at all. Bora's - the new 2015 clincher version - top of list!

okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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If you want the looks just buy some eBay jobs and put whatever decals you can't on there. £400 all in. Probably not much different to zipps anyway

Dammit

3,790 posts

208 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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There really is a huge difference- side winds and braking are the two that really spring to mind.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Dizeee said:
stongle said:
Well that makes even less sense than normal. The other 2 wheelsets are a grand, the Firecrests normally double that? Eh? I though he meant the old style 404s.

If he's putting the Firecrests on the list then, I'd be comparing against Bora Ultras, SES, Reynolds Assault etc etc.

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True, just had a look. At 1500 the Firecrests are a bit of a steal. Why are the Fulcrums and Campagnolos on the comparison list, better stickers?
You have just summed up my entire thread / choices.

I've narrowed them all down after hefty research. I settled on pretty much the same as your suggestions. My Zipp 404 option is for a current set. £1499 is the price - I have checked it out in depth.... 2014 wheelset / campag, dark label, and at a local bike store to me at an £800+ saving.

Bora Ultra - not made yet. They are coming.





Whatever I get, it's to me a major change. Wheels are the best upgrade to a bike - that's the PH default response. Whatever I get will finish the Merak off and look amazing. It's up to me to make sure I pedal enough to do the bike justice. So far so good and that's for me to worry about.

Maybe I should go 3T :
















No jokes or sarcasm, how did your insurance claim pan out in the end?

Did you manage to get anywhere?


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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If this is mostly about looking pimp with the added benefit of an aero improvement, the 3T wheels with the tricolore graphics look fantastic.