Mavic R-Sys SLR Wheels

Mavic R-Sys SLR Wheels

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Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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okgo said:
So it's about fitting in? That's worst reason to spend £1500 ever smile
Funny enough, the bike snobs give the impression you shouldn't buy them as you won't fit in.

You know something is wrong when it is a Dizee thread and he ends up looking like one of the sensible ones.

vxsmithers

716 posts

200 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Magic919 said:
okgo said:
So it's about fitting in? That's worst reason to spend £1500 ever smile
Funny enough, the bike snobs give the impression you shouldn't buy them as you won't fit in.

You know something is wrong when it is a Dizee thread and he ends up looking like one of the sensible ones.
This is possibly the best back handed compliment I've read on PH. keep up the good work biggrin

Usget

5,426 posts

211 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Dr Imran T said:
fromage said:
Very true, its a bloody expensive sport/hobby
Not in comparison classic cars it's not wink

I worked out that I've spent £6.9 billion on my E34 M5 and I still haven't driven it much.
I started riding because I wanted to save money on train tickets.

It would have been cheaper to just buy the damned train.

Dizeee

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18,312 posts

206 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Magic919 said:
Funny enough, the bike snobs give the impression you shouldn't buy them as you won't fit in.

You know something is wrong when it is a Dizee thread and he ends up looking like one of the sensible ones.
It's a great contrast though, reading some of the gumph on here versus reality.

The forum seems to suggest that unless your a pro racer you should only own a basic wheelset and anything else is pointless, arrogant and a waste of money. ( All this from posters who don't know anything about the abilities of other posters for the most part ).

The reality, for me anyway, is that at least 50% of the people I ride with ( most of which are extremely competent, and some of which race for national teams ) 1) Ride with nice wheels and 2) Wouldn't give a st what I put on my bike. The main reason for this as that we all know each other, know how we ride and above all respect each other, which is something often lacking on here.

Most of the time spent riding together is about cracking on safely, enjoying ourselves and looking to get a good training ride in. That often involves bursts up hills or inclines as well as longer group chain's along the flat. That's nothing to fear, in fact it is something to look forward to and enjoy!

As for the comment about people on cheaper kit seeking out and looking to drop others on more expensive kit for kicks, then I feel for you deeply as that's the sort of wker mentality that get's clubs and cycling a bad name. I'm happy to stick to the kind of people I ride with, it works very well for me smile

Rolls

1,502 posts

177 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Buy whatever makes you happy- I've got enve's on ck hubs. Complete overkill. Very tarty. I love them! Don't really care what other people think or say tbh!

Barchettaman

6,311 posts

132 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Dizeee said:
The reality, for me anyway, is that at least 50% of the people I ride with ( most of which are extremely competent, and some of which race for national teams ) 1) Ride with nice wheels and 2) Wouldn't give a st what I put on my bike. The main reason for this as that we all know each other, know how we ride and above all respect each other, which is something often lacking on here.
If that´s your ´reality´, why don´t you ask your national-team-riding mates instead of a load of faceless internet friends on a motoring forum?

It seems to me they would be much more likely to provide you with good advice, with the proviso that you actually listened to it.

BadgerBenji

3,524 posts

218 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Dizeee said:
As for the comment about people on cheaper kit seeking out and looking to drop others on more expensive kit for kicks, then I feel for you deeply as that's the sort of wker mentality that get's clubs and cycling a bad name.
Really, even if you aren't the one who starts the sprinting/winding it up rolleyes
I enter races to race, but when non-racers want to turn a club ride into a mini private league, at that point they need it handing to them.

Oh and enjoy your wheels, and please post some pics.

gazza285

9,814 posts

208 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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BadgerBenji said:
Dizeee said:
As for the comment about people on cheaper kit seeking out and looking to drop others on more expensive kit for kicks, then I feel for you deeply as that's the sort of wker mentality that get's clubs and cycling a bad name.
Really, even if you aren't the one who starts the sprinting/winding it up rolleyes
I enter races to race, but when non-racers want to turn a club ride into a mini private league, at that point they need it handing to them.

Oh and enjoy your wheels, and please post some pics.
Lamp post sprint, innit.

Road racing is for weirdos anyway.

Jimbo.

3,948 posts

189 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Dizeee said:
The forum seems to suggest that unless your a pro racer you should only own a basic wheelset and anything else is pointless...
If you want to go faster, then bike fitting and/or training and/or coaching will make much more of a difference than wheels.
Only, you're seemingly not interested in the above. Which suggests either you're not interested in getting faster, or think you can simply "upgrade" you way to speed. On the latter, you're mistaken: you can't, extremes aside. And the "fastest" wheels in the world are useless if the rider isn't up to the job. If it's the former, then you're spunking £1K+ on wheels for aesthetics and/or the urge for shiny things. Which an expensive, short-term kick that'll soon wear off, around about the same time you lose the wheel of the guy in front...

gazza285

9,814 posts

208 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Jimbo. said:
...shiny things...
The UK cycling scene in a nutshell, even if the trend these days is for matt black.

Dizeee

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18,312 posts

206 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Jimbo. said:
If you want to go faster, then bike fitting and/or training and/or coaching will make much more of a difference than wheels.
Only, you're seemingly not interested in the above. Which suggests either you're not interested in getting faster, or think you can simply "upgrade" you way to speed. On the latter, you're mistaken: you can't, extremes aside. And the "fastest" wheels in the world are useless if the rider isn't up to the job. If it's the former, then you're spunking £1K+ on wheels for aesthetics and/or the urge for shiny things. Which an expensive, short-term kick that'll soon wear off, around about the same time you lose the wheel of the guy in front...
Yup agree with all the above. Ive had a bike fitting so im happy in that field. Coaching I have also had but I dont want to go madly down that route at present as it doesn't interest me really. Im happy I know enough basics to achieve fitness benefits without needing to be an olympian.

It's a combo of both aesthetics and performance behind wanting an upgrade. I live riding and I want a superb summer bike so im not really fussed about winning anything other than my own enhanced enjoyment of my bike.

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Well this thread provides some interesting insights into the strange world of (mostly club) cycling. I thought someone could just go and buy nice stuff if they fancied it. Silly me.

Dammit's advice seemed pretty sensible. Enjoy your upgrade, Dizee.

okgo

38,053 posts

198 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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So what are you going to buy after all this?


gazza285

9,814 posts

208 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Some more cyclocross wheels.

BadgerBenji

3,524 posts

218 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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gazza285 said:
Some more cyclocross wheels.
laugh

Dizeee

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18,312 posts

206 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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okgo said:
So what are you going to buy after all this?
Narrowed it down to the 404s... Campag Bora or Fulcrum XLR 50

TKF

6,232 posts

235 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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If a tree falls in the forest but it can't tell people all about it on the internet does it make a noise?

gazza285

9,814 posts

208 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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£1000 wheels for a club run bike?

nammynake

2,590 posts

173 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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gazza285 said:
£1000 wheels for a club run bike?
It's all relative though. Nobody needs a carbon frame or fancy GPS or £200 Oakleys or.....

gazza285

9,814 posts

208 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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nammynake said:
It's all relative though. Nobody needs a carbon frame or fancy GPS or £200 Oakleys or.....
I haven't got any of them either, although I do use a Garmin 500 for heart rate and post race analysis.