Opinions/experience of Canyon latest road bikes?
Discussion
BlueNGT said:
If I was to go Aeroad I would be getting the CF SLX 7.0 Di2.
I am 6ft, have done all the measurements as per their site, inseam, upper body, arm length, shoulder width and it comes out with a Medium (56). My inseam is shorter than average though according to their guide. When people have ordered have you ordered from the sizing guidance on the Canyon website - if so has the size been pretty close to what you expected (personal fine tuning aside)?
Thanks for all the feedback so far
I am also 6 foot, the guy on the Canyon stand at the show thought medium would be right for me.I am 6ft, have done all the measurements as per their site, inseam, upper body, arm length, shoulder width and it comes out with a Medium (56). My inseam is shorter than average though according to their guide. When people have ordered have you ordered from the sizing guidance on the Canyon website - if so has the size been pretty close to what you expected (personal fine tuning aside)?
Thanks for all the feedback so far
tuffer said:
Gruffy said:
I'm 6'4" and was prompted to go for a L. It's a nervous wait for it to arrive as I'd have instinctively gone for an XL. I queried it but they were confident in their wizards decision. Apparently the Aeroad does come up larger than its size.
I am 6'1" and have a large, it has always felt just a little too large so should be perfect for you.JEA1K said:
The only thing I would say about buying online is that there must be zero chance for a 'deal'. Most bike shops will give you 10% straight off on a current years bike but buying online doesn't really give you that ...
Just the other 30% that most brands stick on to get off after that then...pablo said:
tuffer said:
Gruffy said:
I'm 6'4" and was prompted to go for a L. It's a nervous wait for it to arrive as I'd have instinctively gone for an XL. I queried it but they were confident in their wizards decision. Apparently the Aeroad does come up larger than its size.
I am 6'1" and have a large, it has always felt just a little too large so should be perfect for you.I'm still gutted by the "so close yet so far" spec on the Canyons.
Personal preference, I want a SRAM build.
There's no SRAM build on the Aeroad and the guys at the bike show tell me they didnt see one on next year's model plans either.
OK so there's a SRAM red Ultimate CF. All good.
Not a fan of the wheels, (Our recent R-Sys wheels thread says everything about those and more) and I'd want a wifli mech on that (why restrict options, the whitton this year will have me on the biggest cassette I can jam on, even if most riding will be an 11-28).
Canyon doesnt do spec substitutions save where there are opions on ordering. So either would require major expenditure and maybe getting most of it back when selling unwanted parts. Still a big spend on top of an already expensive bike (it's good value but they are both 3k+)
Serves me right for being picky. Just have to find the right bike, in the right spec.
Did find a venge S-works in the right size and spec, only to have the seller vanish off the face of the earth (facebook account deletion etc etc) which implies something dodgy at the least...
Personal preference, I want a SRAM build.
There's no SRAM build on the Aeroad and the guys at the bike show tell me they didnt see one on next year's model plans either.
OK so there's a SRAM red Ultimate CF. All good.
Not a fan of the wheels, (Our recent R-Sys wheels thread says everything about those and more) and I'd want a wifli mech on that (why restrict options, the whitton this year will have me on the biggest cassette I can jam on, even if most riding will be an 11-28).
Canyon doesnt do spec substitutions save where there are opions on ordering. So either would require major expenditure and maybe getting most of it back when selling unwanted parts. Still a big spend on top of an already expensive bike (it's good value but they are both 3k+)
Serves me right for being picky. Just have to find the right bike, in the right spec.
Did find a venge S-works in the right size and spec, only to have the seller vanish off the face of the earth (facebook account deletion etc etc) which implies something dodgy at the least...
BlueNGT said:
If I was to go Aeroad I would be getting the CF SLX 7.0 Di2.
I am 6ft, have done all the measurements as per their site, inseam, upper body, arm length, shoulder width and it comes out with a Medium (56). My inseam is shorter than average though according to their guide. When people have ordered have you ordered from the sizing guidance on the Canyon website - if so has the size been pretty close to what you expected (personal fine tuning aside)?
Thanks for all the feedback so far
The sizing guide seems to rely almost entirely on a questionable inseam formula (appears to be the old Hüggi formula). Sizing is not in the traditional Italian style, which means it will likely recommend a largish frame. I am 6ft, have done all the measurements as per their site, inseam, upper body, arm length, shoulder width and it comes out with a Medium (56). My inseam is shorter than average though according to their guide. When people have ordered have you ordered from the sizing guidance on the Canyon website - if so has the size been pretty close to what you expected (personal fine tuning aside)?
Thanks for all the feedback so far
Ideally you should calculate size based on your preferred saddle height. At 6 ft, you want about 18 cm of saddle and post above the TT.
Edit: The "M" here appears to be a 58 C-T if measured the old way, so do the math.
Edited by scherzkeks on Tuesday 24th February 09:15
Tempted to go for an Aeroad CF SLX myself soon, in fact very tempted. Their sizing prompted me to go for a 56, which is in line with all the other bikes I have been looking at lately for racing. I'm 6ft with 33 inseam.
Hopefully pull the trigger soon. I fell for the new Aeroad right away when they were announced.
Hopefully pull the trigger soon. I fell for the new Aeroad right away when they were announced.
madzo14 said:
Tempted to go for an Aeroad CF SLX myself soon, in fact very tempted. Their sizing prompted me to go for a 56, which is in line with all the other bikes I have been looking at lately for racing. I'm 6ft with 33 inseam.
Hopefully pull the trigger soon. I fell for the new Aeroad right away when they were announced.
56 sounds right, mine is 58 and I'm 6'1" and as I have said before it feels a bit big.Hopefully pull the trigger soon. I fell for the new Aeroad right away when they were announced.
TheLemming said:
I'm still gutted by the "so close yet so far" spec on the Canyons.
Personal preference, I want a SRAM build.
There's no SRAM build on the Aeroad and the guys at the bike show tell me they didnt see one on next year's model plans either.
OK so there's a SRAM red Ultimate CF. All good.
Not a fan of the wheels, (Our recent R-Sys wheels thread says everything about those and more) and I'd want a wifli mech on that (why restrict options, the whitton this year will have me on the biggest cassette I can jam on, even if most riding will be an 11-28).
Canyon doesnt do spec substitutions save where there are opions on ordering. So either would require major expenditure and maybe getting most of it back when selling unwanted parts. Still a big spend on top of an already expensive bike (it's good value but they are both 3k+)
Serves me right for being picky. Just have to find the right bike, in the right spec.
Did find a venge S-works in the right size and spec, only to have the seller vanish off the face of the earth (facebook account deletion etc etc) which implies something dodgy at the least...
I don't think you are that picky, it's what I love about Rose and Dolan, you can spec almost anything you want. I was speaking to someone at Evans about a couple of Fuji and BMC bikes that come with a compact crank; I want a mid-compact and he went on about how they have to sell the bikes as they are and I could do it if I bought the cranks I wanted. It's not a big deal but there are other retailers who say "yes sir, that's not a problem."Personal preference, I want a SRAM build.
There's no SRAM build on the Aeroad and the guys at the bike show tell me they didnt see one on next year's model plans either.
OK so there's a SRAM red Ultimate CF. All good.
Not a fan of the wheels, (Our recent R-Sys wheels thread says everything about those and more) and I'd want a wifli mech on that (why restrict options, the whitton this year will have me on the biggest cassette I can jam on, even if most riding will be an 11-28).
Canyon doesnt do spec substitutions save where there are opions on ordering. So either would require major expenditure and maybe getting most of it back when selling unwanted parts. Still a big spend on top of an already expensive bike (it's good value but they are both 3k+)
Serves me right for being picky. Just have to find the right bike, in the right spec.
Did find a venge S-works in the right size and spec, only to have the seller vanish off the face of the earth (facebook account deletion etc etc) which implies something dodgy at the least...
Long Term review of the Aeroad here http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/category/bikes/...
Very positive review, the only issue they have is with the Mavic rims. Not being an expert on modern carbon wheels if the Mavic's dont get the best review is a Reynolds equipped model a better option https://www.canyon.com/en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=35...
Or are the Mavic rims not as bad as the review?
Very positive review, the only issue they have is with the Mavic rims. Not being an expert on modern carbon wheels if the Mavic's dont get the best review is a Reynolds equipped model a better option https://www.canyon.com/en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=35...
Or are the Mavic rims not as bad as the review?
I love mavic rims have 7 sets of top end wheels by em.only ever had one broken spoke om my winter sls wheels ..? And my slr's are just the dogs on big climbs....took em over some nasty roads in france last year with no issues.my carbon set are really comfortable on longer runs.I run the sature carbon wheels as an early season race wheel if the weather may get bad..These too are a good wheelset but not as light as mavics
I have Mavic on my current road bike at and never had any issues in 7 years.....wasn't sure if the review was referring to the aero profile of the wheels, maybe the fact Zipp are thought to be more aero? Have since read Reynolds have a more aero profile on some wheels!
If that is all they are referring to it doesn't bother me, I am not looking to shave seconds off any time-trial....
If that is all they are referring to it doesn't bother me, I am not looking to shave seconds off any time-trial....
THe Cosmics are a fairly old design in that there are a carbon rim with a fiaring that the spokes pass through rather than the fairing being structural as per the newer Reynolds, Zipps etc, cant see it being an issue though!
I have my heart set on an S3 but the Aeroad is very tempting... I'd like to read some reviews of the Argon 18 Nitrogen too but teh headtube is possibly too fugly to pass my asthetic demands.
I have my heart set on an S3 but the Aeroad is very tempting... I'd like to read some reviews of the Argon 18 Nitrogen too but teh headtube is possibly too fugly to pass my asthetic demands.
I just posted this in the Tour de PH thread, but it probably belongs here. After nerves about the size, the L feels like the perfect size for me at 6'4". I can't imagine what kind of beast rides their XXL version!
Just back from a 70km ride. Uphill out and downhill back. Bear in mind that I lack experience on a bike so I'm not going to have the insight of a proper reviewer. I've only got the Triban to compare it to and given it costs 10 times the price of that I'd expect it to outperform it in every aspect anyway.
On the uphill outward section I have to admit I was struggling. The tanks were empty after a brutal week and my Rule 5 reserves weren't deep enough to overcome the 13mph headwind. My HR was a good 15-20bpm below where I'd normally ride too. My heart just wasn't in it and the vicious sidewinds descending Crystal Palace made me pucker so sharply that I think I sprained my sphincter. I dialled everything back and decided not to force the ride. It was going to be a base miles ride. It also made me question the Canyon. Maybe I'm just too noob to appreciate the differences between bikes but while it felt smoother and the gears and brakes were much better, I wasn't really dialled in to the handling.
Once I'd reached Tatsfield the original plan was to descend into Westerham and that back via Biggin Hill but I stopped and, given the fatigue and low morale, thought about retracing my steps back for a downhill ride home and skipping the big climb. Then I remembered that the Tour is only 8 weeks away and I suck at climbing, so I puckered up and dropped down into Westerham, smashed a salted caramel gel and pointed it at Westerham Hill. Last time I rode this I blew up and had to pull in near the top for a quick coronary, so I was a bit apprehensive given the move from a 30-28 to a 36-28. Last week's gluttonous ski trip packed on 3kg but the Canyon is 5kg lighter than the Triban, so that still gave me 2kg in the bank. It was a struggle, like last time, and I briefly doubted myself as a I passed the scene of the crime, feeling like I was under-geared, but I MTFU'd and crested feeling relatively pleased. Strava shows a new PR, despite my form leaving me over the winter. It didn't feel like a PR effort so I'll chalk that up to the weight reduction and I'm looking forward to dropping a couple more kg to hit my summer weight.
Now it was downhill pretty much all the way home and I'm so glad I stuck it out for the full route. THIS is what the Aeroad is designed for! Get it up to speed and it takes so much less effort to maintain it (admittedly this is compared to the Triban). The bike comes alive above 40-45kph and spanking along at 50+ was pure unadulterated joy. I just need to work on the engine now so that I can ride at those speeds on the flat.
The ride is comfortable enough, even though I've quickly bodged through the setup and haven't tweaked anything properly. The pads of my hands hurt a little more on the hoods but I think I've got the bars rotated a bit too far down so it's just hot-spotting. It's set at 0° but I may raise it just a touch. Riding in the drops is lovely. Even though I've not gone through a proper fit yet I'm able to ride the drops comfortably for much longer than before. This could be a geometry thing or it could be the extra compliance that's softening the ride compared to the alloy-forked Triban.
The brakes. Wow. 120km in now and the brake squeal is only really present on heavy stops from speed. Pulling up at lights it just sounds like a pod racer from Star Wars. They're much more capable than the grip from the Mavic tyres though. The back end is quite lively under heavy braking but I discovered the bike is easy to drift, thankfully. I think the heavy Triban let me get away with sloppy weight management under braking but I need to work on that now. The lever feel is awesome, needing just a tiny pull to generate what feels like huge braking force. The Ultegra groupset is a beautiful thing. Gear changes are buttery and this is probably the largest difference between the bikes.
Despite the fluro bar tape and booties, the stealth finish seems to be a bit deadly. I had three serious SMIDSY near-misses today and one minor one. There may have been swearing.
Overall, it's a lovely thing to ride and a beautiful thing to look at (it sits in my office, looking like it's doing 5kph just leaning against the wall), but it really needs a thorough spanking to bring it to life. I'm looking forward to upping my game and being able to ride it how it deserves to be ridden later this year.
Just back from a 70km ride. Uphill out and downhill back. Bear in mind that I lack experience on a bike so I'm not going to have the insight of a proper reviewer. I've only got the Triban to compare it to and given it costs 10 times the price of that I'd expect it to outperform it in every aspect anyway.
On the uphill outward section I have to admit I was struggling. The tanks were empty after a brutal week and my Rule 5 reserves weren't deep enough to overcome the 13mph headwind. My HR was a good 15-20bpm below where I'd normally ride too. My heart just wasn't in it and the vicious sidewinds descending Crystal Palace made me pucker so sharply that I think I sprained my sphincter. I dialled everything back and decided not to force the ride. It was going to be a base miles ride. It also made me question the Canyon. Maybe I'm just too noob to appreciate the differences between bikes but while it felt smoother and the gears and brakes were much better, I wasn't really dialled in to the handling.
Once I'd reached Tatsfield the original plan was to descend into Westerham and that back via Biggin Hill but I stopped and, given the fatigue and low morale, thought about retracing my steps back for a downhill ride home and skipping the big climb. Then I remembered that the Tour is only 8 weeks away and I suck at climbing, so I puckered up and dropped down into Westerham, smashed a salted caramel gel and pointed it at Westerham Hill. Last time I rode this I blew up and had to pull in near the top for a quick coronary, so I was a bit apprehensive given the move from a 30-28 to a 36-28. Last week's gluttonous ski trip packed on 3kg but the Canyon is 5kg lighter than the Triban, so that still gave me 2kg in the bank. It was a struggle, like last time, and I briefly doubted myself as a I passed the scene of the crime, feeling like I was under-geared, but I MTFU'd and crested feeling relatively pleased. Strava shows a new PR, despite my form leaving me over the winter. It didn't feel like a PR effort so I'll chalk that up to the weight reduction and I'm looking forward to dropping a couple more kg to hit my summer weight.
Now it was downhill pretty much all the way home and I'm so glad I stuck it out for the full route. THIS is what the Aeroad is designed for! Get it up to speed and it takes so much less effort to maintain it (admittedly this is compared to the Triban). The bike comes alive above 40-45kph and spanking along at 50+ was pure unadulterated joy. I just need to work on the engine now so that I can ride at those speeds on the flat.
The ride is comfortable enough, even though I've quickly bodged through the setup and haven't tweaked anything properly. The pads of my hands hurt a little more on the hoods but I think I've got the bars rotated a bit too far down so it's just hot-spotting. It's set at 0° but I may raise it just a touch. Riding in the drops is lovely. Even though I've not gone through a proper fit yet I'm able to ride the drops comfortably for much longer than before. This could be a geometry thing or it could be the extra compliance that's softening the ride compared to the alloy-forked Triban.
The brakes. Wow. 120km in now and the brake squeal is only really present on heavy stops from speed. Pulling up at lights it just sounds like a pod racer from Star Wars. They're much more capable than the grip from the Mavic tyres though. The back end is quite lively under heavy braking but I discovered the bike is easy to drift, thankfully. I think the heavy Triban let me get away with sloppy weight management under braking but I need to work on that now. The lever feel is awesome, needing just a tiny pull to generate what feels like huge braking force. The Ultegra groupset is a beautiful thing. Gear changes are buttery and this is probably the largest difference between the bikes.
Despite the fluro bar tape and booties, the stealth finish seems to be a bit deadly. I had three serious SMIDSY near-misses today and one minor one. There may have been swearing.
Overall, it's a lovely thing to ride and a beautiful thing to look at (it sits in my office, looking like it's doing 5kph just leaning against the wall), but it really needs a thorough spanking to bring it to life. I'm looking forward to upping my game and being able to ride it how it deserves to be ridden later this year.
I wouldn't discredit your review, if you saw some of the clowns out there being paid to do it you'd soon realise that buying a bike on the strength of a review from a website or magazine is pretty silly given they don't seem to have any credentials in many cases either!
Interested to read your review, there is a LOT of crap on this forum about how this feels and how that feels, the truth of course is that you could make a Parlee ride like an Allez if you put a few choice bits on it, I've just spent thousands on a new bike, I know full well it won't be much different to the last one because at the sharp end they're all pretty similar, I just hope it might be a bit stiffer sprinting out of corners in crits. So its not surprising that it wasn't a total night and day thing like some people make out it is (self justification in many cases), the thing that powers the bike is of course the biggest factor, as you're probably finding, but when you do get fitter you will of course be able to make the most of the small aero gains/weight saving.
The important thing is that you enjoy riding it, and of course something new and shiny will tempt you out more often than before so you can gain that way, it looks very smart.
And yes, you are likely correct your bars do look over-rotated to me. You might find that style of bar a pain to get on with, I know I did, I swapped the Rotundo 3T bars (which look same as yours) for Ergosum which allows the shifter to sit flat with the tops and doesn't have quite as deep a drop.
Re drifting the rear end, you're not doing something right if you're locking up the rear, and in doing so the tyre will last a matter of days, front brake is where you apply the power
- a mate of mine had to emergency stop once and the rear locked up and popped in a matter of seconds, such is the thin nature of some of the high end tyres now.
Interested to read your review, there is a LOT of crap on this forum about how this feels and how that feels, the truth of course is that you could make a Parlee ride like an Allez if you put a few choice bits on it, I've just spent thousands on a new bike, I know full well it won't be much different to the last one because at the sharp end they're all pretty similar, I just hope it might be a bit stiffer sprinting out of corners in crits. So its not surprising that it wasn't a total night and day thing like some people make out it is (self justification in many cases), the thing that powers the bike is of course the biggest factor, as you're probably finding, but when you do get fitter you will of course be able to make the most of the small aero gains/weight saving.
The important thing is that you enjoy riding it, and of course something new and shiny will tempt you out more often than before so you can gain that way, it looks very smart.
And yes, you are likely correct your bars do look over-rotated to me. You might find that style of bar a pain to get on with, I know I did, I swapped the Rotundo 3T bars (which look same as yours) for Ergosum which allows the shifter to sit flat with the tops and doesn't have quite as deep a drop.
Re drifting the rear end, you're not doing something right if you're locking up the rear, and in doing so the tyre will last a matter of days, front brake is where you apply the power
- a mate of mine had to emergency stop once and the rear locked up and popped in a matter of seconds, such is the thin nature of some of the high end tyres now.Edited by okgo on Wednesday 11th March 14:58
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