Which of these full sus bikes?

Which of these full sus bikes?

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Woody

2,187 posts

283 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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How about the BIRD AERIS 3?
£1550 and British.


nacnac

103 posts

190 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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torqueofthedevil said:
Are most going to be like that?

Is it a nightmare going up hills?!?
Unless you are trying to ride a downhill bike uphill then it will be the rider that makes the biggest difference. I've been using my Spectral for XC racing and beat a load of people on lightweight fully rigid and hard tail 29ers the other weekend in a two day race. I wouldn't worry about it.

Kermit power

28,635 posts

212 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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deadtom said:
torqueofthedevil said:
Am I right in thinking that rear suspension set up like that is not as good as where the shocker is up near the top tube rather than down near the pedals?
I would say it's better to have the shock mounted low and central, like the giants do. It keeps the weight in the right place and to my eye at least, looks a lot nicer
I think it's pretty much all down to looks. When you're looking at bikes which cost thousands of pounds, then it's fairly safe to assume that they've done the proper engineering calculations on their suspension, regardless of where the shock sits on the bike!

One benefit to having the shock sited higher up is that it's not going to get as muddy, but so long as the seals are working properly, that's not much of an issue.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Designers place the pivot in the postiion where it is most capable of delivering the desired result and how the bike will handle when compressed. For example, single pivot rear suspension is clean and simple and ideal for taking bigger hits but only really useful on bikes with longer travel but rarely used on xc/trail bikes where maintaining momentum on smoother terrain is reqd. Just look at the difference between the Specilased Epic FSR and the Orange Five which were the two bikes I had in mind.

A lot depends upon who well you tune the bounce/rebound of any system though.

There are some good guides which explain the logic here.
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/buyers-guide...
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/buyers-guide...

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 2nd March 15:22

torqueofthedevil

Original Poster:

2,068 posts

176 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Woody said:
How about the BIRD AERIS 3?
£1550 and British.

Yeah I like that! Is it a 27.5-er? Is the spec as good ad that Canyon? What are the shocks like?

Is there a waiting list for these? Want something pretty quick!

yellowjack

17,065 posts

165 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Bird Cycle Works said:
PLEASE NOTE THIS IS PRE-ORDER FOR APRIL 2015 DELIVERY
Prices start from £1,550 and include:
- Aeris.3 (£1,550), Aeris.2 (£2,275), Aeris.1 (£2,490), Aeris.AM (£2,650), Aeris RS (£3,700)
This is the pre-order deposit for your Aeris. In order to make things simple, we're offering the frameset to buy, and the option to upgrade to a complete bike.
The process is straight forward:
1. Select your frame, shock and please select a colour.
2. Let us know whether you want a frame only or complete bike, if a complete bike please help us out by indicating which spec (this is not binding until your bike is paid for).
3. If you selected complete bike, we will contact you to finalise specification and take the balance of payment shortly thereafter.
We expect bikes to begin shipping in March.
Frame deposits are non-refundable, you may elect to take a frame only even if you have selected a complete bike specification at any time until the bike is paid for in full.
This is what Bird are saying at the moment about delivery times for the Aeris. To Pre-Order, you give them £850, and for that you own a frame (when it arrives). When they have your frame delivered to them from the factory in the Far East which builds them, they contact you to confirm the build specification. This means that you can choose a different final price/spec to what you initially wanted, or they'll allow you to collect the frame (and rear shock) only, and you can build it yourself or pay someone (your LBS?) do build it for you. What they don't seem to do is refund your £850 if you simply change your mind, so it's a fair old commitment required up front. The guys at Bird are very approachable, though, so if you've any questions just phone them or email. I'm local, so I've popped in to see them a few times with questions. The one thing I have noticed with their 'default' builds is that they are becoming more 'standardised', with fewer customisation options for each build than there were at the end of last year, but they're still superb value and far more flexible than most of the bigger players they are up against.

torqueofthedevil

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2,068 posts

176 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Cheers. Only reservations are:

1. Read some bad reviews of the rear shock but I'm no connoisseur so maybe I wouldn't notice? That was the shock on the Aeris 3.
2. I'm itching to go and want to be out on a local event early April - my experience of these things is that they really drag out.
3. Massive upfront deposit really and also they are miles from me.

Might have to go with another option.

On the plus side I have the credit card sorted so just need to find a bike.

torqueofthedevil

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2,068 posts

176 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Do really like the look of those bird bikes. Going to ring tomorrow and see what the chances are of getting one delivered before mid April.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Have a look at Rose perhaps? A bit like Bird - independent. Rose bikes have lifetime warranties on the frames.

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-uncle-jimbo-1...

You can spec it exactly how you want it!

ETA: Unfortunately their website is playing up at the moment.

Edited by RenOHH on Tuesday 3rd March 19:43

S13_Alan

1,324 posts

242 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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I have a 2015 Rose Uncle Jimbo, really like it and it's fantastic value for money!

Unfortunately, although I've ridden bikes most of my life, I've never had anything like this to compare it to. The reviews are all favourable and it's a really nicely made thing though, I've not a single complaint.

Well aside from the 12 weeks I had to wait to get it... but I don't think the likes of Canyon etc are any better.