'Cycling' cafe owner launches raod rage attack at cyclist
Discussion
upsidedownmark said:
Funny how those who feel the need to carry a camera always manage to find trouble eh?.
Tell ya what, you stand in the road and i'll come and swerve at you in my 3 ton car, see how you feel about it.Unsure why people don't get locked-up for doing that, very strange.
^^ some pictures as moving images can be taxing..
Spot the difference?
Edited by superkartracer on Tuesday 2nd June 12:01
Blimey that made me laugh, the Disco driver was nuts, gotta be on coke or speed to pull those expressions! Quite why he wouldn't beat him up as he was holding a bike was an odd excuse
Ive had a car pass very closely before , then linger on (purpose?), pushing me in, wasn't pleasant, I also punched the car on the off chance they didn't realise I was there. Bloke stormed up to me wanting a fight, but I just laughed told him he was old and fat and setting a bad example to his kids before he stormed off.
Ive had a car pass very closely before , then linger on (purpose?), pushing me in, wasn't pleasant, I also punched the car on the off chance they didn't realise I was there. Bloke stormed up to me wanting a fight, but I just laughed told him he was old and fat and setting a bad example to his kids before he stormed off.
upsidedownmark said:
Funny how those who feel the need to carry a camera always manage to find trouble eh?
That doesn't even make any sense... What are you expecting, film from people not carrying cameras or film from people who do where nothing happens?The driver is a prise t
t. What the cyclist did wrong IMO was to not take the lane coming up to a roundabout. Let the driver pass when there was not enough room. Although the type of person who rants about how you should be using the cycle lane (I'm sure we have all had it) is going to be the type who finds the first place to pass then cut in fast to "teach you a lesson".I find it odd how some people blame the cyclist but I bet would have a rather different opinion if it was a car they were making dicey overtakes of.
Edited by SteveSteveson on Tuesday 2nd June 12:12
Whats disturbing about that whole incident is that he was only fined under a public order offence. He attempted to drive his vehicle into a cyclist as can be clearly seen on the video. Someone trying to do that is only intending maim someone (at best). If he had done that with a pedestrian I doubt he would have got off so leniently.
As for his business suffering? I hope it does. In life there are consequences to ones actions. It goes both ways.
The tragedy is he is not fit to drive a motor vehicle on the road and is clearly a danger to other road users. Nothing has been done about that though, so he continues to be so.
As for his business suffering? I hope it does. In life there are consequences to ones actions. It goes both ways.
The tragedy is he is not fit to drive a motor vehicle on the road and is clearly a danger to other road users. Nothing has been done about that though, so he continues to be so.
I'm not condoning his behaviour, the aggression or downright bad attitude.
But he hardly cut the cyclist up and doesn't he have a point about there being a cycle lane and no bikes on it?
There's a stretch of the A1 from Apex corner in London which has cycling paths on both sides and on so many occasions I see the cyclists on the road of a 3 lane 70mph dual carriageway.
Surely they should be using the dedicated lane built for them?
But he hardly cut the cyclist up and doesn't he have a point about there being a cycle lane and no bikes on it?
There's a stretch of the A1 from Apex corner in London which has cycling paths on both sides and on so many occasions I see the cyclists on the road of a 3 lane 70mph dual carriageway.
Surely they should be using the dedicated lane built for them?
nitrodave said:
I'm not condoning his behaviour, the aggression or downright bad attitude.
But he hardly cut the cyclist up and doesn't he have a point about there being a cycle lane and no bikes on it?
There's a stretch of the A1 from Apex corner in London which has cycling paths on both sides and on so many occasions I see the cyclists on the road of a 3 lane 70mph dual carriageway.
Surely they should be using the dedicated lane built for them?
Could it just possibly be that the cyclists think its safer to use the road and not the cycle path? is the cycle path an afterthought shoehorned in alongside existing infrastructure? does it compete for space with pedestrians?, are there bottlenecks? is it regularly maintained?... But he hardly cut the cyclist up and doesn't he have a point about there being a cycle lane and no bikes on it?
There's a stretch of the A1 from Apex corner in London which has cycling paths on both sides and on so many occasions I see the cyclists on the road of a 3 lane 70mph dual carriageway.
Surely they should be using the dedicated lane built for them?
Not defending the driver's actions in any way, shape or form, but the cyclist really doesn't help himself - the Disco tries to follow the yellow car past and then the yellow car stops so the Disco finds himself up against the cyclist, very bad planning by the Disco, but the first thing the cyclist does is hit the car...
pablo said:
nitrodave said:
I'm not condoning his behaviour, the aggression or downright bad attitude.
But he hardly cut the cyclist up and doesn't he have a point about there being a cycle lane and no bikes on it?
There's a stretch of the A1 from Apex corner in London which has cycling paths on both sides and on so many occasions I see the cyclists on the road of a 3 lane 70mph dual carriageway.
Surely they should be using the dedicated lane built for them?
Could it just possibly be that the cyclists think its safer to use the road and not the cycle path? is the cycle path an afterthought shoehorned in alongside existing infrastructure? does it compete for space with pedestrians?, are there bottlenecks? is it regularly maintained?... But he hardly cut the cyclist up and doesn't he have a point about there being a cycle lane and no bikes on it?
There's a stretch of the A1 from Apex corner in London which has cycling paths on both sides and on so many occasions I see the cyclists on the road of a 3 lane 70mph dual carriageway.
Surely they should be using the dedicated lane built for them?
having nearly piled into a young teenage girl who decided that it was a good idea to stop and wait for the rest of the family blocking the entire lane as I am heading toward her with 2 mates on mtb's, we now stay in the road.
nitrodave said:
But he hardly cut the cyclist up and doesn't he have a point about there being a cycle lane and no bikes on it?
The cyclists gets squeezed in and has no idea if the car is going to keep coming. And no, using a shared cycle lane is not an option for most cyclists. They are normally bumpy, badly maintained, force you to stop at every crossing, make every junction much more of a risk, and most importantly you are mixing 20mph cyclists with pedestrians. Cycle lanes like that are appropriate for kids and people bimbling along at less than 10 mph. If you want to actually cycle then no. Cyclists have every right to be on the road and he has no point at all.AyBee said:
Not defending the driver's actions in any way, shape or form, but the cyclist really doesn't help himself - the Disco tries to follow the yellow car past and then the yellow car stops so the Disco finds himself up against the cyclist, very bad planning by the Disco, but the first thing the cyclist does is hit the car...
At that point you don't know if the car is getting too close or has not seen you. I have never been quite that close, but I can see why he felt he needed to thump the side of the car just to make yourself noticed. The yellow KA is not the issue anyway. The disco should not have overtaken coming up to the roundabout. Edited by SteveSteveson on Tuesday 2nd June 13:41
AyBee said:
Not defending the driver's actions in any way, shape or form, but the cyclist really doesn't help himself - the Disco tries to follow the yellow car past and then the yellow car stops so the Disco finds himself up against the cyclist, very bad planning by the Disco, but the first thing the cyclist does is hit the car...
the fact that he can touch the Disco means that the driver has clearly not left a safe gap while passing. Please acquaint yourself with the highway code.People seem to forget that you don't need to actually touch a bike (motorbike or pedal) to be a danger. The wake of a car too close is enough to push you in to a pot hole or some other obstical. Probably not at the speeds in the video, but it's something many people don't appreciate.
Pachydermus said:
AyBee said:
Not defending the driver's actions in any way, shape or form, but the cyclist really doesn't help himself - the Disco tries to follow the yellow car past and then the yellow car stops so the Disco finds himself up against the cyclist, very bad planning by the Disco, but the first thing the cyclist does is hit the car...
the fact that he can touch the Disco means that the driver has clearly not left a safe gap while passing. Please acquaint yourself with the highway code.superkartracer said:
Tell ya what, you stand in the road and i'll come and swerve at you in my 3 ton car, see how you feel about it.
Unsure why people don't get locked-up for doing that, very strange.
^^ some pictures as moving images can be taxing..
Spot the difference?
Can you add a screen grab of the orginal overtake please rather than the Disco launched at the cyclist? I'm curious to see the comparison with the overtaking space of both but can't do it at work Unsure why people don't get locked-up for doing that, very strange.
^^ some pictures as moving images can be taxing..
Spot the difference?
nitrodave said:
Surely they should be using the dedicated lane built for them?
No legal requirement to do so and the Government (DOT) actually recommend cyclist only use cycle lanes if they ride at less than 18mph, on flat roads most "road bikes" will be doing more than that.Kudos to the chilled out bloke with the blue bike trying to calm things down... I did think he was going to get punched by both the cyclist and Chef at one point though :-)
I'll cop flak for this I know, but it's long been my opinion that cyclists have no place on modern roads.
They just don't mix well with the rest of the traffic that uses the same stretch of tarmac. It's not the cyclist's fault, they are just too slow and too vulnerable.
There needs to be either a totally separate infrastructure if used for transport, or restricted to off-road situations for leisure.
They just don't mix well with the rest of the traffic that uses the same stretch of tarmac. It's not the cyclist's fault, they are just too slow and too vulnerable.
There needs to be either a totally separate infrastructure if used for transport, or restricted to off-road situations for leisure.
shakotan said:
I'll cop flak for this I know, but it's long been my opinion that cyclists have no place on modern roads.
They just don't mix well with the rest of the traffic that uses the same stretch of tarmac. It's not the cyclist's fault, they are just too slow and too vulnerable.
There needs to be either a totally separate infrastructure if used for transport, or restricted to off-road situations for leisure.
In London it's the motor vehicles that are slow...They just don't mix well with the rest of the traffic that uses the same stretch of tarmac. It's not the cyclist's fault, they are just too slow and too vulnerable.
There needs to be either a totally separate infrastructure if used for transport, or restricted to off-road situations for leisure.
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