6 weeks to prepare for the 2015 Etape du Tour.

[anonymous-user]

that is a splendid achievement, especially with such a short preparation period - well done

[Janosh]

Well done mate - you finished a few minutes ahead of me

I found the bottom of the last climb pretty hard but as soon as the temperature dropped a few degrees (around the 10km to go mark) I felt my strength come back and actually finished feeling pretty good.

This year I paced it right (much the same as you keeping it under 160bpm) which made for a much more enjoyable day than previous years!

[upsidedownmark]

Kawasicki said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

when i was TT'ing at age 45 I was still banging out at 185bpm at 160bpm when climbing you must havebeen coasting

Holy crap.

I was bricking it that something would go wrong if I pushed any harder, I wasn't intentionally going easy. I knew I could sustain 175bpm for a couple of hours and that I could stay riding for 9 hours....that was the extent of my knowledge. If I do the event next year, I will give it all I've got. In the mean time, I'm going to keep training. I'll back off the duration for the sake of the family, but to keep me focused I'll also do some beginner level local bike racing.

Well done! You did right - john's experience is utterly irrelevant, and complete nonsense

1) What distance TT? Most are threshold / supra threshold efforts. Fine for 25/10 miles, **ck all use for a endurance ride such as the etape.
2) As we already did in great detail, 'alpine' climbs are about steady sustainable, and not susceptible to short/sharp suprathreshold efforts.
3) HR is very personal physiology - I have a friend (30) who averages >200bpm over a half marathon (1:50ish) - that's pretty abnormal, but in comparison my max (proven) is 191. Comparing BPM is bull, %MHR just possibly, but even then it's very very personal.

[velocgee]

well my month old Garmin HR strap went within ten minutes so any thoughts of my keeping sustained effort/ threshold marlarky went out of the window lol.
anyhow, on Glandon i didn't need a HR monitor to tell me i was at max!

[johnxjsc1985]

[quote=upsidedownmark]


Well done! You did right - john's experience is utterly irrelevant, and complete nonsense


2) As we already did in great detail, 'alpine' climbs are about steady sustainable, and not susceptible to short/sharp suprathreshold efforts.

you mean like a time trial then.

[upsidedownmark]

If you're talking about a 100 or more (mile) TT, yes. Anything less, no.

[johnxjsc1985]

upsidedownmark said:

If you're talking about a 100 or more (mile) TT, yes. Anything less, no.

are you saying that riders like Quintana or Contrador ride climbs like Froome or TJ.or going back to Indurain even.
What about riders who are 70-75kg in weight?. The larger the rider the more likely they are to time trial up a long climb .
Anyway today we will see climbing and lots of attacks from the diddy men on the TDF.

[upsidedownmark]

What I'm saying is that the fact you can ride a 185BPM heart rate over a time trial of unspecified, but presumably short distance is irrelevant to kawasicki completing the etape, which is a 5+ hour ride with a large portion of that spent climbing (and yes, a 25 is short).

Sure you treat a long hill in 'time trialling' fashion - as in you ride a constant, measured effort.
When your ride includes several long hills, if you 'time trial' in the sense of leaving yourself utterly spent / ready to puke / ride threshold / 25mile TT pace (or more) up the first one, you are going to DNF.

Remember that the definition of threshold is maximal 1hr effort - If you're going for 5+hours you need to stay significantly below threshold; that simple.

'Typically' (as much as you can give typical figures for anything HR related), somewhere around 160bpm is going to be right in the 'bit below threshold' sweetspot. 185bpm is well above for most. You may be different, or you may be battering yourself over a 10.. neither of which are relevant to the OP, nor does it mean he's 'cruising' at 160bpm up an alp.

[Longers]

Bit late replying to this topic, it's taken me a few days to get back to normal after such an epic / brutal / rewarding experience last Sunday!

Kawasicki, that's an amazing result I think anyone who finished deserves a HUGE

I was riding with Mr Plow who was wearing his PH cycling shirt. A couple of guys commented on it during the ride, including one in Banbury shorts & jersey. We then saw another PH shirt outside the pasta party which turned out to be Janosh - good to meet you briefly

Cheers,
L'rs

[Kawasicki]

Longers said:

Bit late replying to this topic, it's taken me a few days to get back to normal after such an epic / brutal / rewarding experience last Sunday!

Kawasicki, that's an amazing result I think anyone who finished deserves a HUGE

I was riding with Mr Plow who was wearing his PH cycling shirt. A couple of guys commented on it during the ride, including one in Banbury shorts & jersey. We then saw another PH shirt outside the pasta party which turned out to be Janosh - good to meet you briefly

Cheers,
L'rs

Thanks Longers. Well done to you too. I went out on a training ride with a local group on Wednesday evening for a couple of hours. I'm still as weak as ever... so the training will continue.