Guardian article on cyclist attacks
Discussion
okgo said:
Oh well.
People think twice about being s if they think they might not get away with it scott free.
This woman who got her car deliberately scratched, do you reckon she went home and told her friends and family about it and said it's all her fault and she's learned her lesson? Do you reckon she'll take extra care the next time she overtakes you on your bike?People think twice about being s if they think they might not get away with it scott free.
Schmy said:
okgo said:
Oh well.
People think twice about being s if they think they might not get away with it scott free.
This woman who got her car deliberately scratched, do you reckon she went home and told her friends and family about it and said it's all her fault and she's learned her lesson? Do you reckon she'll take extra care the next time she overtakes you on your bike?People think twice about being s if they think they might not get away with it scott free.
If there had been no reaction from the cyclist, do you think she would have taken more care around cyclists in the future? At least this way, she might be more careful in the future even if it is for the sake of her car's paintwork rather than the safety of other humans.
Zigster said:
Looking at it the other way, this woman clearly had no concept of how to drive carefully around other road users anyway. She endangers someone by passing far too closely and then has the audacity to get out the car and shout at the victim (for want of a better word).
If there had been no reaction from the cyclist, do you think she would have taken more care around cyclists in the future? At least this way, she might be more careful in the future even if it is for the sake of her car's paintwork rather than the safety of other humans.
Are the only options do nothing or damage the car? Sounds a bit binary to me.If there had been no reaction from the cyclist, do you think she would have taken more care around cyclists in the future? At least this way, she might be more careful in the future even if it is for the sake of her car's paintwork rather than the safety of other humans.
If you had been through the same and the person who had injured you (bruised elbow where she clipped me), nearly seriously injured you (another inch to the left and I would have been squashed), verbally assaulted you and then was trying to stop you from walking away what would you do?
She's lucky I hit her car and not her as she got at least 3 clear warnings to get out of my face and take her hands off my bike.
She's lucky I hit her car and not her as she got at least 3 clear warnings to get out of my face and take her hands off my bike.
TheAllSeeingPie said:
Having just been clipped doing 20ish mph and the shock involved in that, then having someone flag me down so she can start shouting at me about 6 inches from my face, having the morale high ground was irrelevant and I was trying to contain my anger. It took all the restraint I had to not punch her and instead I told her to get back in her car and fk off, which she refused to until I told her I'd kick her car until she left. Funnily enough one kick of the car and she was down the road and nowhere near me. The alternative would have been to have cycled off and risk her coming past me again, this time with an already damaged car and frothing at the mouth and probably with the intention to "teach me a lesson" or worse ...
Good stuff, had something similar recently when I was ready to drag the girl out of the car and beat her to a pulp, all because she nearly swiped me off the bike and I told her she was a daft woman and drove her car into my bike again while swearing (ok I said she should stuff a bottle up her...).What made me angry was her attitude and then her boyfriend all piping up as well.
Schmy said:
Zigster said:
Looking at it the other way, this woman clearly had no concept of how to drive carefully around other road users anyway. She endangers someone by passing far too closely and then has the audacity to get out the car and shout at the victim (for want of a better word).
If there had been no reaction from the cyclist, do you think she would have taken more care around cyclists in the future? At least this way, she might be more careful in the future even if it is for the sake of her car's paintwork rather than the safety of other humans.
Are the only options do nothing or damage the car? Sounds a bit binary to me.If there had been no reaction from the cyclist, do you think she would have taken more care around cyclists in the future? At least this way, she might be more careful in the future even if it is for the sake of her car's paintwork rather than the safety of other humans.
Lets face it... if people on a car website cycling formum, who (presumably) both cycle and drive a car cannot agree, what chance does a piss-pot rag like the Guardian have of getting it right either?
If we're supposed to be the tollerant and informed end of the scale, it's not hard to see why those who only cycle or only drive really have a head-benny over "the other lot".
If we're supposed to be the tollerant and informed end of the scale, it's not hard to see why those who only cycle or only drive really have a head-benny over "the other lot".
Zigster said:
Schmy said:
Zigster said:
Looking at it the other way, this woman clearly had no concept of how to drive carefully around other road users anyway. She endangers someone by passing far too closely and then has the audacity to get out the car and shout at the victim (for want of a better word).
If there had been no reaction from the cyclist, do you think she would have taken more care around cyclists in the future? At least this way, she might be more careful in the future even if it is for the sake of her car's paintwork rather than the safety of other humans.
Are the only options do nothing or damage the car? Sounds a bit binary to me.If there had been no reaction from the cyclist, do you think she would have taken more care around cyclists in the future? At least this way, she might be more careful in the future even if it is for the sake of her car's paintwork rather than the safety of other humans.
There are many, many options in between these extremities. I wasn't there so it's difficult to say exactly how I would have reacted however I can guarantee it wouldn't have been either of those 2 choices.
Harji said:
TheAllSeeingPie said:
Having just been clipped doing 20ish mph and the shock involved in that, then having someone flag me down so she can start shouting at me about 6 inches from my face, having the morale high ground was irrelevant and I was trying to contain my anger. It took all the restraint I had to not punch her and instead I told her to get back in her car and fk off, which she refused to until I told her I'd kick her car until she left. Funnily enough one kick of the car and she was down the road and nowhere near me. The alternative would have been to have cycled off and risk her coming past me again, this time with an already damaged car and frothing at the mouth and probably with the intention to "teach me a lesson" or worse ...
Good stuff, had something similar recently when I was ready to drag the girl out of the car and beat her to a pulp, all because she nearly swiped me off the bike and I told her she was a daft woman and drove her car into my bike again while swearing (ok I said she should stuff a bottle up her...).What made me angry was her attitude and then her boyfriend all piping up as well.
All calm, no swearing, no threats, no violence.
You'll find humans are more receptive to this.
Try it.
Meanwhile back over in the Telegraph, it's business as usual.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/goodlife/11707713/Cycli...
Red lights? Tick. Lycra Louts? Tick. Insurance? Tick. Registration? Tick. I cycle too, really I do? Tick. Surely this was "written" by some Anti-Cycling Content Generator
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/goodlife/11707713/Cycli...
Red lights? Tick. Lycra Louts? Tick. Insurance? Tick. Registration? Tick. I cycle too, really I do? Tick. Surely this was "written" by some Anti-Cycling Content Generator
Such a brilliant article, particularly the pictures and captions.
Picture of a dozen cyclists waiting at a red light: Cyclists often ignore the Highway Code
Picture of a bloke cycling and following the road round: A cyclist swerves in front of a bus (bus is suspiciously close behind him too)
People on bikes: People on bikes causing havoc
I do like the photo of the recreational cyclist on the right though...
Picture of a dozen cyclists waiting at a red light: Cyclists often ignore the Highway Code
Picture of a bloke cycling and following the road round: A cyclist swerves in front of a bus (bus is suspiciously close behind him too)
People on bikes: People on bikes causing havoc
I do like the photo of the recreational cyclist on the right though...
2volvos said:
Meanwhile back over in the Telegraph, it's business as usual.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/goodlife/11707713/Cycli...
Red lights? Tick. Lycra Louts? Tick. Insurance? Tick. Registration? Tick. I cycle too, really I do? Tick. Surely this was "written" by some Anti-Cycling Content Generator
I don't bother reading the Torygraph now. It's all click bait and trying to copy the Mail. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/goodlife/11707713/Cycli...
Red lights? Tick. Lycra Louts? Tick. Insurance? Tick. Registration? Tick. I cycle too, really I do? Tick. Surely this was "written" by some Anti-Cycling Content Generator
Schmy said:
Such a brilliant article, particularly the pictures and captions.
Picture of a dozen cyclists waiting at a red light: Cyclists often ignore the Highway Code
Picture of a bloke cycling and following the road round: A cyclist swerves in front of a bus (bus is suspiciously close behind him too)
People on bikes: People on bikes causing havoc
I do like the photo of the recreational cyclist on the right though...
They also conveniently ignore the car sat halfway across an ASL. However I think Angela is definitely an advert for the benefits of cycling Picture of a dozen cyclists waiting at a red light: Cyclists often ignore the Highway Code
Picture of a bloke cycling and following the road round: A cyclist swerves in front of a bus (bus is suspiciously close behind him too)
People on bikes: People on bikes causing havoc
I do like the photo of the recreational cyclist on the right though...
oyster said:
Harji said:
TheAllSeeingPie said:
Having just been clipped doing 20ish mph and the shock involved in that, then having someone flag me down so she can start shouting at me about 6 inches from my face, having the morale high ground was irrelevant and I was trying to contain my anger. It took all the restraint I had to not punch her and instead I told her to get back in her car and fk off, which she refused to until I told her I'd kick her car until she left. Funnily enough one kick of the car and she was down the road and nowhere near me. The alternative would have been to have cycled off and risk her coming past me again, this time with an already damaged car and frothing at the mouth and probably with the intention to "teach me a lesson" or worse ...
Good stuff, had something similar recently when I was ready to drag the girl out of the car and beat her to a pulp, all because she nearly swiped me off the bike and I told her she was a daft woman and drove her car into my bike again while swearing (ok I said she should stuff a bottle up her...).What made me angry was her attitude and then her boyfriend all piping up as well.
All calm, no swearing, no threats, no violence.
You'll find humans are more receptive to this.
Try it.
12TS said:
2volvos said:
Meanwhile back over in the Telegraph, it's business as usual.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/goodlife/11707713/Cycli...
Red lights? Tick. Lycra Louts? Tick. Insurance? Tick. Registration? Tick. I cycle too, really I do? Tick. Surely this was "written" by some Anti-Cycling Content Generator
I don't bother reading the Torygraph now. It's all click bait and trying to copy the Mail. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/goodlife/11707713/Cycli...
Red lights? Tick. Lycra Louts? Tick. Insurance? Tick. Registration? Tick. I cycle too, really I do? Tick. Surely this was "written" by some Anti-Cycling Content Generator
It's even in the local press. A few weeks ago our rag had a headline something like Jail for Cyclist Who Killed Toddler on Pavement. Turns out he was some yobbo on a BMX he'd just nicked and was high on dope. Typical cyclist!
2volvos said:
12TS said:
2volvos said:
Meanwhile back over in the Telegraph, it's business as usual.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/goodlife/11707713/Cycli...
Red lights? Tick. Lycra Louts? Tick. Insurance? Tick. Registration? Tick. I cycle too, really I do? Tick. Surely this was "written" by some Anti-Cycling Content Generator
I don't bother reading the Torygraph now. It's all click bait and trying to copy the Mail. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/goodlife/11707713/Cycli...
Red lights? Tick. Lycra Louts? Tick. Insurance? Tick. Registration? Tick. I cycle too, really I do? Tick. Surely this was "written" by some Anti-Cycling Content Generator
It's even in the local press. A few weeks ago our rag had a headline something like Jail for Cyclist Who Killed Toddler on Pavement. Turns out he was some yobbo on a BMX he'd just nicked and was high on dope. Typical cyclist!
It does have a few MAMIL friendly articles as well.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/recreational...
I dunno, maybe I being niaive, but a bit of editorial consistency wouldn't go amiss...
But please, don't dare enter the readers comments below any of the articles.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/recreational...
I dunno, maybe I being niaive, but a bit of editorial consistency wouldn't go amiss...
But please, don't dare enter the readers comments below any of the articles.
2volvos said:
Meanwhile back over in the Telegraph, it's business as usual.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/goodlife/11707713/Cycli...
Red lights? Tick. Lycra Louts? Tick. Insurance? Tick. Registration? Tick. I cycle too, really I do? Tick. Surely this was "written" by some Anti-Cycling Content Generator
It's in the telegraph. A paper written by twunts for twunts.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/goodlife/11707713/Cycli...
Red lights? Tick. Lycra Louts? Tick. Insurance? Tick. Registration? Tick. I cycle too, really I do? Tick. Surely this was "written" by some Anti-Cycling Content Generator
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