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DeltonaS said:
Funny enough he did when Quintana lost 1:20 in the second stage in Zeeland due to mechanical problems; did Sky wait, NO; something which is easily forgotten by Sky all of a sudden. So Froome and Sky, who had a seriously though 3 last days of the Tour, won the tour already in the 2nd stage, or could've lost it in the past 1 or 2 days to Quintana....something to think about.
Nevertheless great perfomance from Sky and Froome again; also good to see he won the Mountain jersey instead of the terrible, chauvinistic French.
movistar were caught out by wind and echelons not a mechanical but as Quintana wasn't in yellow on stage 2 it's irrelevant, why would they wait for him? Nevertheless great perfomance from Sky and Froome again; also good to see he won the Mountain jersey instead of the terrible, chauvinistic French.
Epic stage, last 10kms were Proper nail biting and Pinot was a star!
pablo said:
DeltonaS said:
Funny enough he did when Quintana lost 1:20 in the second stage in Zeeland due to mechanical problems; did Sky wait, NO; something which is easily forgotten by Sky all of a sudden. So Froome and Sky, who had a seriously though 3 last days of the Tour, won the tour already in the 2nd stage, or could've lost it in the past 1 or 2 days to Quintana....something to think about.
Nevertheless great perfomance from Sky and Froome again; also good to see he won the Mountain jersey instead of the terrible, chauvinistic French.
movistar were caught out by wind and echelons not a mechanical but as Quintana wasn't in yellow on stage 2 it's irrelevant, why would they wait for him? Nevertheless great perfomance from Sky and Froome again; also good to see he won the Mountain jersey instead of the terrible, chauvinistic French.
Epic stage, last 10kms were Proper nail biting and Pinot was a star!
DeltonaS said:
jodypress said:
Karma for Nibbles???? Notice Froomey didn't attack.
Funny enough he did when Quintana lost 1:20 in the second stage in Zeeland due to mechanical problems; did Sky wait, NO; something which is easily forgotten by Sky all of a sudden. So Froome and Sky, who had a seriously though 3 last days of the Tour, won the tour already in the 2nd stage, or could've lost it in the past 1 or 2 days to Quintana....something to think about.Nevertheless great perfomance from Sky and Froome again; also good to see he won the Mountain jersey instead of the terrible, chauvinistic French.
As has already been mentioned, Quintana lost his 1:20 in Zeeland due to a break in the peloton caused by cross winds, which were totally expected and he should've been up there, so something he'll take into his next TdF I'm sure.
Still a cracking stage today with a Frenchman winning it, Froom winning overall and Quitana attacking till the end.
A top race this year that everything. The top 4 GC contender's starting stages with a climb and ending on the iconic 21 bends.
Loved it.
jodypress said:
I wasn't actually refrencing Quintana, but more Nibali who attacked yesterday after Froome's brake caliper moment. He looked around not once but twice and knew exactly what he was doing. Thankfully made no difference to the Yellow battle.
As has already been mentioned, Quintana lost his 1:20 in Zeeland due to a break in the peloton caused by cross winds, which were totally expected and he should've been up there, so something he'll take into his next TdF I'm sure.
Loved it.
It was 1:28; and like I said Quintana himself declared right after todays stage he lost his Tour In Zeeland due to a tumbling in front of him.....As has already been mentioned, Quintana lost his 1:20 in Zeeland due to a break in the peloton caused by cross winds, which were totally expected and he should've been up there, so something he'll take into his next TdF I'm sure.
Loved it.
And indeed certainly not something Sky should've stopped for...
Apparently Quintana was faster than froome on stages 4 to 21 so the cycling news forumites are referring to Froome as the winner of the tour de Holland and Quintana as the winner of the tour de France... This is a new level of bitterness!
As for the question below, I think this one unwritten rule is going to be the very last to go so even if it's a second or two it should be regarded as done and dusted on the final Saturday. I'm sure if nibbles was just a second or two behind though, there would be legions of his supporters denouncing these unwritten rules and demanding a carte blanche yet ready to vilify anyone who dared attack if it were the other way round. Nothing against nibbles, just his armchair supporters who are proper loonies!
Credit to the sprinters who have been through four days of hell, they deserve one last day of fun tomorrow, I just hope to God Sagan wins!
As for the question below, I think this one unwritten rule is going to be the very last to go so even if it's a second or two it should be regarded as done and dusted on the final Saturday. I'm sure if nibbles was just a second or two behind though, there would be legions of his supporters denouncing these unwritten rules and demanding a carte blanche yet ready to vilify anyone who dared attack if it were the other way round. Nothing against nibbles, just his armchair supporters who are proper loonies!
Credit to the sprinters who have been through four days of hell, they deserve one last day of fun tomorrow, I just hope to God Sagan wins!
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 25th July 19:12
DeltonaS said:
It was 1:28; and like I said Quintana himself declared right after todays stage he lost his Tour In Zeeland due to a tumbling in front of him.....
And indeed certainly not something Sky should've stopped for...
Just referencing the time you originally quoted above. Thanks for correcting your own mistake And indeed certainly not something Sky should've stopped for...
pablo said:
Apparently Quintana was faster than froome on stages 4 to 21 so the cycling news forumites are referring to Froome as the winner of the tour de Holland and Quintana as the winner of the tour de France... This is a new level of bitterness!
As for the question below, I think this one unwritten rule is going to be the very last to go so even if it's a second or two it should be regarded as done and dusted on the final Saturday. I'm sure if nibbles was just a second or two behind though, there would be legions of his supporters denouncing these unwritten rules and demanding a carte blanche yet ready to vilify anyone who dared attack if it were the other way round. Nothing against nibbles, just his armchair supporters who are proper loonies!
Credit to the sprinters who have been through four days of hell, they deserve one last day of fun tomorrow, I just hope to God Sagan wins!
3 out of the last 4 TDF won by a British rider that will really get up their French hooters.when Tom Simpson won his first Classic in the early 1960's they tried to take that away from him saying that the other rider has misread the finishing line and wanted to declare a dead heat he stood his ground, I like Brits winning on the continent.As for the question below, I think this one unwritten rule is going to be the very last to go so even if it's a second or two it should be regarded as done and dusted on the final Saturday. I'm sure if nibbles was just a second or two behind though, there would be legions of his supporters denouncing these unwritten rules and demanding a carte blanche yet ready to vilify anyone who dared attack if it were the other way round. Nothing against nibbles, just his armchair supporters who are proper loonies!
Credit to the sprinters who have been through four days of hell, they deserve one last day of fun tomorrow, I just hope to God Sagan wins!
Edited by pablo on Saturday 25th July 19:12
pablo said:
Apparently Quintana was faster than froome on stages 4 to 21 so the cycling news forumites are referring to Froome as the winner of the tour de Holland and Quintana as the winner of the tour de France... This is a new level of bitterness!
8 year old logic at it's best!Edited by pablo on Saturday 25th July 19:12
pablo said:
Apparently Quintana was faster than froome on stages 4 to 21 so the cycling news forumites are referring to Froome as the winner of the tour de Holland and Quintana as the winner of the tour de France... This is a new level of bitterness!
Haha awesome! So when Froome blew them all out of the water to gain minutes on everyone that was in the mountain ranges of Holland was it?! Also Quintana didn't lose it because of that crash early on, he lost it because he left it too late and couldn't keep up when it mattered. With Froome having such a big lead he didn't need to attack - perhaps if Quintana was only a couple of seconds behind Sky would have attacked more instead of just maintaining their sizable gap throughout the race.Out of interest, why is today's stage considered as the final fight for the yellow jersey? What's to stop somebody making a break for it on the run into Paris?
What happened to Geraint Thomas? He was right up in the rankings a couple of days ago, even after face planting a telegraph pole.
What happened to Geraint Thomas? He was right up in the rankings a couple of days ago, even after face planting a telegraph pole.
sjj84 said:
Out of interest, why is today's stage considered as the final fight for the yellow jersey? What's to stop somebody making a break for it on the run into Paris?
Convention, courtesy, respect for the maillot jaune and the not inconsiderable difficulty of actually doing it on a short, flat stage.sjj84 said:
What happened to Geraint Thomas? He was right up in the rankings a couple of days ago, even after face planting a telegraph pole.
Yesterday really broke him. He'd been riding out of his skin for a week or so though.sjj84 said:
Out of interest, why is today's stage considered as the final fight for the yellow jersey? What's to stop somebody making a break for it on the run into Paris?
What happened to Geraint Thomas? He was right up in the rankings a couple of days ago, even after face planting a telegraph pole.
Paris is setup pretty much to deliver a sprint finish. The laps at the end are fairly short - certainly short enough that there could be issues with a strung out peloton chasing a break...What happened to Geraint Thomas? He was right up in the rankings a couple of days ago, even after face planting a telegraph pole.
It's also deliberately a bit of a celebration of finishing, and so none of them really want to be attempting to smash out a breakaway, only to be chased down by the sprint teams.
Haven't seen directly what's happened to G, but he looked fked yesterday, and could easily have just trundled up AdH losing several minutes. A rider delivering such quality support to his team leader often leads to a late falling down the ranks as fatigue takes it's toll.
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