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mcelliott

8,671 posts

181 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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A few pics from the day - there may be longer climbs, there may be tougher climbs, but there's only one Alpe d'huez. Super chuffed for Pinot too - thoroughly deserved his stage win.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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DeltonaS said:
Funny enough he did when Quintana lost 1:20 in the second stage in Zeeland due to mechanical problems; did Sky wait, NO; something which is easily forgotten by Sky all of a sudden. So Froome and Sky, who had a seriously though 3 last days of the Tour, won the tour already in the 2nd stage, or could've lost it in the past 1 or 2 days to Quintana....something to think about.

Nevertheless great perfomance from Sky and Froome again; also good to see he won the Mountain jersey instead of the terrible, chauvinistic French.
movistar were caught out by wind and echelons not a mechanical but as Quintana wasn't in yellow on stage 2 it's irrelevant, why would they wait for him?

Epic stage, last 10kms were Proper nail biting and Pinot was a star!

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

138 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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pablo said:
DeltonaS said:
Funny enough he did when Quintana lost 1:20 in the second stage in Zeeland due to mechanical problems; did Sky wait, NO; something which is easily forgotten by Sky all of a sudden. So Froome and Sky, who had a seriously though 3 last days of the Tour, won the tour already in the 2nd stage, or could've lost it in the past 1 or 2 days to Quintana....something to think about.

Nevertheless great perfomance from Sky and Froome again; also good to see he won the Mountain jersey instead of the terrible, chauvinistic French.
movistar were caught out by wind and echelons not a mechanical but as Quintana wasn't in yellow on stage 2 it's irrelevant, why would they wait for him?

Epic stage, last 10kms were Proper nail biting and Pinot was a star!
You seem to be right. Just checked; I was ill informed by the Dutch TV report ; Quintana didn't loose 1:28 in the 2nd stage due to mechanical problems but due to the way the course enfolded. Quintana himself by the way said it was due to a tumble in the peleton that day.....

jodypress

1,929 posts

274 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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DeltonaS said:
jodypress said:
Karma for Nibbles???? Notice Froomey didn't attack.
Funny enough he did when Quintana lost 1:20 in the second stage in Zeeland due to mechanical problems; did Sky wait, NO; something which is easily forgotten by Sky all of a sudden. So Froome and Sky, who had a seriously though 3 last days of the Tour, won the tour already in the 2nd stage, or could've lost it in the past 1 or 2 days to Quintana....something to think about.

Nevertheless great perfomance from Sky and Froome again; also good to see he won the Mountain jersey instead of the terrible, chauvinistic French.
I wasn't actually refrencing Quintana, but more Nibali who attacked yesterday after Froome's brake caliper moment. He looked around not once but twice and knew exactly what he was doing. Thankfully made no difference to the Yellow battle.
As has already been mentioned, Quintana lost his 1:20 in Zeeland due to a break in the peloton caused by cross winds, which were totally expected and he should've been up there, so something he'll take into his next TdF I'm sure.

Still a cracking stage today with a Frenchman winning it, Froom winning overall and Quitana attacking till the end.
A top race this year that everything. The top 4 GC contender's starting stages with a climb and ending on the iconic 21 bends.

Loved it.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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Well done Froomey - KOM as a nice bonus

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

138 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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jodypress said:
I wasn't actually refrencing Quintana, but more Nibali who attacked yesterday after Froome's brake caliper moment. He looked around not once but twice and knew exactly what he was doing. Thankfully made no difference to the Yellow battle.
As has already been mentioned, Quintana lost his 1:20 in Zeeland due to a break in the peloton caused by cross winds, which were totally expected and he should've been up there, so something he'll take into his next TdF I'm sure.

Loved it.
It was 1:28; and like I said Quintana himself declared right after todays stage he lost his Tour In Zeeland due to a tumbling in front of him.....

And indeed certainly not something Sky should've stopped for...

Antony Moxey

8,075 posts

219 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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With the final stage accepted as a procession to Paris to let the sprinters have some fun, how close would the GC need to be for it to be considered a 'proper' stage?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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Apparently Quintana was faster than froome on stages 4 to 21 so the cycling news forumites are referring to Froome as the winner of the tour de Holland and Quintana as the winner of the tour de France... This is a new level of bitterness! rofl

As for the question below, I think this one unwritten rule is going to be the very last to go so even if it's a second or two it should be regarded as done and dusted on the final Saturday. I'm sure if nibbles was just a second or two behind though, there would be legions of his supporters denouncing these unwritten rules and demanding a carte blanche yet ready to vilify anyone who dared attack if it were the other way round. Nothing against nibbles, just his armchair supporters who are proper loonies!

Credit to the sprinters who have been through four days of hell, they deserve one last day of fun tomorrow, I just hope to God Sagan wins!

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 25th July 19:12

jodypress

1,929 posts

274 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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DeltonaS said:
It was 1:28; and like I said Quintana himself declared right after todays stage he lost his Tour In Zeeland due to a tumbling in front of him.....

And indeed certainly not something Sky should've stopped for...
Just referencing the time you originally quoted above. Thanks for correcting your own mistake smile

Get Karter

1,934 posts

201 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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spikeyhead said:
It's the best tour I can remember.
That makes me feel old.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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pablo said:
Apparently Quintana was faster than froome on stages 4 to 21 so the cycling news forumites are referring to Froome as the winner of the tour de Holland and Quintana as the winner of the tour de France... This is a new level of bitterness! rofl

As for the question below, I think this one unwritten rule is going to be the very last to go so even if it's a second or two it should be regarded as done and dusted on the final Saturday. I'm sure if nibbles was just a second or two behind though, there would be legions of his supporters denouncing these unwritten rules and demanding a carte blanche yet ready to vilify anyone who dared attack if it were the other way round. Nothing against nibbles, just his armchair supporters who are proper loonies!

Credit to the sprinters who have been through four days of hell, they deserve one last day of fun tomorrow, I just hope to God Sagan wins!

Edited by pablo on Saturday 25th July 19:12
3 out of the last 4 TDF won by a British rider that will really get up their French hooters.when Tom Simpson won his first Classic in the early 1960's they tried to take that away from him saying that the other rider has misread the finishing line and wanted to declare a dead heat he stood his ground, I like Brits winning on the continent.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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pablo said:
Apparently Quintana was faster than froome on stages 4 to 21 so the cycling news forumites are referring to Froome as the winner of the tour de Holland and Quintana as the winner of the tour de France... This is a new level of bitterness! rofl


Edited by pablo on Saturday 25th July 19:12
8 year old logic at it's best!

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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forgot to mention the Polka Dot Jersey the first rider since the Cannibal to win both.He must be doing something right

Antony Moxey

8,075 posts

219 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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pablo said:
Apparently Quintana was faster than froome on stages 4 to 21 so the cycling news forumites are referring to Froome as the winner of the tour de Holland and Quintana as the winner of the tour de France... This is a new level of bitterness! rofl
Haha awesome! So when Froome blew them all out of the water to gain minutes on everyone that was in the mountain ranges of Holland was it?! Also Quintana didn't lose it because of that crash early on, he lost it because he left it too late and couldn't keep up when it mattered. With Froome having such a big lead he didn't need to attack - perhaps if Quintana was only a couple of seconds behind Sky would have attacked more instead of just maintaining their sizable gap throughout the race.

sjj84

2,390 posts

219 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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Out of interest, why is today's stage considered as the final fight for the yellow jersey? What's to stop somebody making a break for it on the run into Paris?

What happened to Geraint Thomas? He was right up in the rankings a couple of days ago, even after face planting a telegraph pole.

loudlashadjuster

5,130 posts

184 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
forgot to mention the Polka Dot Jersey the first rider since the Cannibal to win both.He must be doing something right
Froome is also currently 5th in the sprint categorisation. That doesn't happen by accident or luck.

loudlashadjuster

5,130 posts

184 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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sjj84 said:
Out of interest, why is today's stage considered as the final fight for the yellow jersey? What's to stop somebody making a break for it on the run into Paris?
Convention, courtesy, respect for the maillot jaune and the not inconsiderable difficulty of actually doing it on a short, flat stage.

sjj84 said:
What happened to Geraint Thomas? He was right up in the rankings a couple of days ago, even after face planting a telegraph pole.
Yesterday really broke him. He'd been riding out of his skin for a week or so though.

Sway

26,279 posts

194 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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sjj84 said:
Out of interest, why is today's stage considered as the final fight for the yellow jersey? What's to stop somebody making a break for it on the run into Paris?

What happened to Geraint Thomas? He was right up in the rankings a couple of days ago, even after face planting a telegraph pole.
Paris is setup pretty much to deliver a sprint finish. The laps at the end are fairly short - certainly short enough that there could be issues with a strung out peloton chasing a break...

It's also deliberately a bit of a celebration of finishing, and so none of them really want to be attempting to smash out a breakaway, only to be chased down by the sprint teams.

Haven't seen directly what's happened to G, but he looked fked yesterday, and could easily have just trundled up AdH losing several minutes. A rider delivering such quality support to his team leader often leads to a late falling down the ranks as fatigue takes it's toll.

Dr Imran T

2,301 posts

199 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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Get Karter said:
That makes me feel old.
Great tour no doubt. I felt very early on that froome had this comfortably, it was always a very tall order for NQ to bring that deficit down.

What year was it when Evans won the tour on the last stage time trial?


johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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think those who think Quintana is somehow a moral victor forget Froome also won the Polka Dot Jersey.
I think he and Moviestar may rethink next year and build a team just around him.
I think this was built for a climber and I hope next year we have more Time Trials to even out things.