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Weight listed as 67.5kg at the minute, but has said about 66kg in his book and other places.
I think the elephant in the room though here is the margin of error they're talking about for stages and osy rings, I don't doubt stages are s
te, and I don't doubt there is an over-rear from osy rings, but I think 6% (assuming at least he has 50/50 balance) is quite a lot, I saw more like 3% when I moved from q rings back to round.
I think really the figure is likely gunna be higher than 390w which isn't especially impressive for a pro cyclist by any stretch. We are talking about the same bloke that managed 460w up Madone (which is a 30 min climb) in a training run before winning the tour in '13, so we will see what more comes of it.
I think the elephant in the room though here is the margin of error they're talking about for stages and osy rings, I don't doubt stages are s
te, and I don't doubt there is an over-rear from osy rings, but I think 6% (assuming at least he has 50/50 balance) is quite a lot, I saw more like 3% when I moved from q rings back to round.I think really the figure is likely gunna be higher than 390w which isn't especially impressive for a pro cyclist by any stretch. We are talking about the same bloke that managed 460w up Madone (which is a 30 min climb) in a training run before winning the tour in '13, so we will see what more comes of it.
Dixie said:
So are we saying that he's got a lot more to give when they hit the alps? As has Quintana, as at 58kg would have only been putting out mid 300Ws for the same climb??
Or are we saying Froomes figures are a big fat lie!?
I don't think his figures are correct, no. Gesink on Strava did over 400w and was slower than Froome up there, draft only helps so much...! Or are we saying Froomes figures are a big fat lie!?
Also 380-390w from someone who has managed 80 more before is a big difference.
What Sky have done IMO is given his weight as a bit higher than it actually is (references 66kg in his book a few times and says he's not moved more than 900g off that, why would he now be nearly 68kg?) and a fairly large overread estimate, so those two things do hide what is probably more likely the real story - but that still wouldn't mean he was clean or dirty tbh
They are. And it's all a load of bks mostly.
Re his weight, he will know EXACTLY what he weighs, and towards the end of a hot stage if anything he is going to be lighter than he was at the start. They have been smart with the release, both the weight and the power margin for error can be explained without 'really' questioning it. I suspect the actual performance was more like 6.2 w/kg up there vs whatever they have said.
That all said, the fact he's got a lot of support in the peloton probably speaks volumes, they're not shy about calling a spade if they see it, like Aru that time...
Also there would be significant gains to be had for track events taking the right drugs, no different to 100m sprinters.
ks mostly.Re his weight, he will know EXACTLY what he weighs, and towards the end of a hot stage if anything he is going to be lighter than he was at the start. They have been smart with the release, both the weight and the power margin for error can be explained without 'really' questioning it. I suspect the actual performance was more like 6.2 w/kg up there vs whatever they have said.
That all said, the fact he's got a lot of support in the peloton probably speaks volumes, they're not shy about calling a spade if they see it, like Aru that time...
Also there would be significant gains to be had for track events taking the right drugs, no different to 100m sprinters.
Great but there is no way he is that weight - you don't write it in your own book numerous times AND make a point that you've not deviated from that by more than 1kg in two years (the team have also made that point in the past) - entering the TDF he will be in peak shape, race weight.
What Kimmage is saying is that its all the little contradictions that have all added up to create a bit of a mess, and while I still thnk they could have handled it better as a lot of the heat is because of these little contradictions etc.
What Kimmage is saying is that its all the little contradictions that have all added up to create a bit of a mess, and while I still thnk they could have handled it better as a lot of the heat is because of these little contradictions etc.
I might be proven wrong but I think much ado has been made of nothing about todays stage.
He still has nearly 3 mins advantage, even if he time trialled from the bottom without caring about anyone else there is no way anyone is going to be 3 mins quicker than one of the best climbers in the world.
I am joining dots and the team have had to reign him back in the past to stop him trying to win every stage, he said he rode within himself to limit loses yesterday, my prediction is that he will win todays stage and underline the last 3 weeks.
He still has nearly 3 mins advantage, even if he time trialled from the bottom without caring about anyone else there is no way anyone is going to be 3 mins quicker than one of the best climbers in the world.
I am joining dots and the team have had to reign him back in the past to stop him trying to win every stage, he said he rode within himself to limit loses yesterday, my prediction is that he will win todays stage and underline the last 3 weeks.
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