New wheelset required.
Discussion
Following a crash whilst racing the other evening I may just have an excuse to upgrade my wheelset 
Currently running Fulcrum R3s with 25mm Vittoria Open Pros, a combo I'm very happy with, the wheels are light, stiff and make a lovely whooshing noise above 20 mph
Naturally I'd love a set of ENVE 45s on CK hubs but I can't afford that, companies such as Wheelsmith do their own 45mm rims with Novatec hubs for about £750, there is also the option of Fulcrum R0s for about £600.
What makes a good wheelset? Mavic Open Pro on Ultegra hubs are probably the answer!
Given the choice of a dead feeling, heavy carbon wheelset, which looks the part I'd take the more traditional wheelset yet alive feeling set anyday.
Currently running Fulcrum R3s with 25mm Vittoria Open Pros, a combo I'm very happy with, the wheels are light, stiff and make a lovely whooshing noise above 20 mph
Naturally I'd love a set of ENVE 45s on CK hubs but I can't afford that, companies such as Wheelsmith do their own 45mm rims with Novatec hubs for about £750, there is also the option of Fulcrum R0s for about £600.
What makes a good wheelset? Mavic Open Pro on Ultegra hubs are probably the answer!
Given the choice of a dead feeling, heavy carbon wheelset, which looks the part I'd take the more traditional wheelset yet alive feeling set anyday.
Dizeee said:
I have a set of wheelsmith 50mm's and they certainly don't feel dead. They are amazing and assisted me no end.
I have never understood what an "open pro" is / means?
It's an (old school narrow/box section) rim, always overlooked by cafe-kudos bling-slingers 'cos it's not carbon bro...I have never understood what an "open pro" is / means?
TheFungle said:
Following a crash whilst racing the other evening I may just have an excuse to upgrade my wheelset
Currently running Fulcrum R3s with 25mm Vittoria Open Pros, a combo I'm very happy with, the wheels are light, stiff and make a lovely whooshing noise above 20 mph
Naturally I'd love a set of ENVE 45s on CK hubs but I can't afford that, companies such as Wheelsmith do their own 45mm rims with Novatec hubs for about £750, there is also the option of Fulcrum R0s for about £600.
What makes a good wheelset? Mavic Open Pro on Ultegra hubs are probably the answer!
Given the choice of a dead feeling, heavy carbon wheelset, which looks the part I'd take the more traditional wheelset yet alive feeling set anyday.
Re. wheels, seems everything's going fat: what started as a HED thing has filtered down to Mavic with the 2015 Kysrium. Soon everything will be 22mm+ rim width. Might be looking out for.Currently running Fulcrum R3s with 25mm Vittoria Open Pros, a combo I'm very happy with, the wheels are light, stiff and make a lovely whooshing noise above 20 mph
Naturally I'd love a set of ENVE 45s on CK hubs but I can't afford that, companies such as Wheelsmith do their own 45mm rims with Novatec hubs for about £750, there is also the option of Fulcrum R0s for about £600.
What makes a good wheelset? Mavic Open Pro on Ultegra hubs are probably the answer!
Given the choice of a dead feeling, heavy carbon wheelset, which looks the part I'd take the more traditional wheelset yet alive feeling set anyday.
What makes a good wheelset? The quality of the build and how well suited it is to your type of riding.
Jimbo. said:
What makes a good wheelset? The quality of the build and how well suited it is to your type of riding.
I agree.The reason I like the wheelsmiths are they look good, they ride superbly and above all from a value point of view as and when the rims need replacing I can just send them back and have them re built without having to shell out full price on a new set of wheels.
Jimbo. said:
Re. wheels, seems everything's going fat: what started as a HED thing has filtered down to Mavic with the 2015 Kysrium. Soon everything will be 22mm+ rim width. Might be looking out for.
What makes a good wheelset? The quality of the build and how well suited it is to your type of riding.
Mavic have always made touring rims...What makes a good wheelset? The quality of the build and how well suited it is to your type of riding.
Happy with my hand built Pacenti's with DA hubs from http://thecycleclinic.co.uk/collections/road-rim-b... There's quite a few options on the builds, so you're bound to find one that suits whatever riding you're going to do. H plus son or American classic rims are well regarded too.
I did a 50mile sportive today and cycled round with a chap with Mavic SLR's, compared to my battered Fulcrum R3's, he bought those for the Alps as he did the Haute last year and the year before, he reckoned the weight and braking surface were a perfect match for that, he did comment that they aren't very aero at all compared with his mid section Zipp 303's (old model with alu brake surface).
Friend of his also has the same zipps and has just got some R0's, apparently really rates then and is going to change out all his other other wheels for these.
I was going to make a panicked Mavic Ksyrium SLE or SLS purchase this weekend but have now borrowed some hoops from someone else.
So for me do I get another pair of R3's, £330 delivered. R0's, £555 less 10% (merlin), R-Sys Mavis second hand or 2016 Mavic Ksyrium Elite.
Some more thought needed. Fortieth birthday next year will be deep section, question is how much to splurge on alu rim wheels in the mean time. Cero A30's are £380 and weigh the same as wheels twice the price!
Friend of his also has the same zipps and has just got some R0's, apparently really rates then and is going to change out all his other other wheels for these.
I was going to make a panicked Mavic Ksyrium SLE or SLS purchase this weekend but have now borrowed some hoops from someone else.
So for me do I get another pair of R3's, £330 delivered. R0's, £555 less 10% (merlin), R-Sys Mavis second hand or 2016 Mavic Ksyrium Elite.
Some more thought needed. Fortieth birthday next year will be deep section, question is how much to splurge on alu rim wheels in the mean time. Cero A30's are £380 and weigh the same as wheels twice the price!
I'd go for Camapg alu wheels because the hubs are the best I have ever ridden. Wiggle still have the Neutron Ultras for around £420 (30% off) which are old school cup and cone bearings and will run butterly smooth with only occassional maintenance or the Shamals if you are feeling flush. I think the hubs roll so well they start eat into any advantage compared to deeper wheelsets with inferior hubs.
Available here for another 10% off.
http://www.merlincycles.com/campagnolo-neutron-ult...
Or Campagnolo Shamal Mille Clincher Wheelset - 2015 for £638
http://www.merlincycles.com/campagnolo-shamal-mill...
http://www.merlincycles.com/campagnolo-neutron-ult...
Or Campagnolo Shamal Mille Clincher Wheelset - 2015 for £638
http://www.merlincycles.com/campagnolo-shamal-mill...
Having just spent a fair chunk on a new pair of wheels my priorities were speccing a spoke count that suited my riding, having a rim that offers slight aero and width benefits, off the shelf spokes and hubs that can be easily serviced and should last a good while.
I didn't want a pair of wheels where it costs a fortune to replace a worn rim or takes 4 weeks to order in a replacement spoke or you have nice rims but cheap hubs that won't last.
The result was a pair of Archetypes, laced 20/24 onto DT240 hubs with CX-Ray spokes.
I didn't want a pair of wheels where it costs a fortune to replace a worn rim or takes 4 weeks to order in a replacement spoke or you have nice rims but cheap hubs that won't last.
The result was a pair of Archetypes, laced 20/24 onto DT240 hubs with CX-Ray spokes.
Although they are quite expensivecompared to buying individual Sapim CX Rays etc, you can but Campag spoke kits from the UK distributor. I bought one for the Zondas, it was around £22 for 6 spokes, 2 of each length, havent used it yet but should recover some of the cost should I ever sell the wheels. It only appears to be Mavic that have this ridiculous spoke supply problem.
I have been speaking to Jonathan at Noble Wheels about a set of these but with the latest version of these rims.
http://www.noble-wheels.com/projects/martins-etape...
They work out at £595 at 1480g, so lighter than my R3's but heavier then some of the main stream wheel sets from Mavic and Fulcrum over £600. More spoke apparently so should be stiffer.
http://www.noble-wheels.com/projects/martins-etape...
They work out at £595 at 1480g, so lighter than my R3's but heavier then some of the main stream wheel sets from Mavic and Fulcrum over £600. More spoke apparently so should be stiffer.
Someone on here mentioned Cero AR30 wheels from Cycle Divison recently. I ride with a few people who have these wheels, never heard anything negative about them.
1400g, sub £400 including tyres.
https://www.cycledivision.co.uk/products/wheels/ce...
1400g, sub £400 including tyres.
https://www.cycledivision.co.uk/products/wheels/ce...
JPJPJP said:
It is all about the price isn't it
It's trying to decide where the point of diminishing returns kicks in, I don't want expensive wheels for the sake of it and I believe a pitfall of upgrading from R3s to R0s (for example) is the expense incurred should the bearings need replaced.Gassing Station | Pedal Powered | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff