Club run etiquette

[anonymous-user]

kaese said:

I was out on that day and saw Selby CC coming out of Taddy heading toward Wighill - there was a big 'peloton' (of around a dozen riders) in the lead. One of the lads in the group shouted out to join in at the back if we wanted (we didn't) - so perhaps your comment about non-members is correct in this case

There did look to be around four cars waiting behind the 'peloton' at that point. I then saw a smaller group of riders of around 4/5 around 30 seconds behind the bigger peloton.

Yes, that was us.

[N8CYL]

I ride with Selby CC often although I cannot comment about this ride as I am still nursing a broken collar bone and couldn't make it.
The description of this ride does not ring true with any of my experiences over the last two years. The rides are well organised with a great bunch of guys and gals riding.
Of course if there are newbie riders then of course there will be issues due to people not knowing how to behave in a group and as a growing successful club, this will always be the case, unless there are separate rides to teach the disciplines, which there are.
We were all one these newbies at some point, you learn and the next time you get better.
It is always difficult to get a group of riders with different skills and fitness, turning up for the same ride, to ride as a coordinated group.
Once again, I have never experienced this with this group and I also ride with several other groups on the locality and all are good fun and well run rides.

[anonymous-user]

N8CYL said:

I ride with Selby CC often although I cannot comment about this ride as I am still nursing a broken collar bone and couldn't make it.
The description of this ride does not ring true with any of my experiences over the last two years. The rides are well organised with a great bunch of guys and gals riding.
Of course if there are newbie riders then of course there will be issues due to people not knowing how to behave in a group and as a growing successful club, this will always be the case, unless there are separate rides to teach the disciplines, which there are.
We were all one these newbies at some point, you learn and the next time you get better.
It is always difficult to get a group of riders with different skills and fitness, turning up for the same ride, to ride as a coordinated group.
Once again, I have never experienced this with this group and I also ride with several other groups on the locality and all are good fun and well run rides.

This is entirely consistent with the reputation that the club has.

Maybe last Sunday was the exception that proves the rule?

Or maybe it was me making it all go wrong!?

[julianm]

Join Featherstone Road Club - they know their stuff.

[twosheds154]

As a rider on this club run, I must point out myself and others attending this 66 mile ride had a totally different and much more enjoyable experience to JPJPJP. There were atleast four new riders/guest riders probably more, a wide range of ages, ability and experience. For some, this was their longest ever ride by far. A few tag alongs joined for part of the route too.
The majority of the ride was on very quiet country roads with little or no traffic. I remember on a number of occasions cars being waved by when it was safe to pass. There were no 'attacks', just people taking their own pace up the occasional inclines.

I could go on addressing each point, but feel this is not the correct forum. JPJPJP should really have brought this up for discussion on the SCC site rather than in a forum which his fellow riders are unable to see or comment.
No ride is perfect, but how can riders and club improve if comments are made in a forum which few if any of the club members subscribe to? This thread was only spotted by chance otherwise noone would be any wiser.
I'm sure if JPJPJP would like to raise any comments on the SCC site, appropriate comment will be made.

[Dizeee]

[anonymous-user]

twosheds154 said:

As a rider on this club run, I must point out myself and others attending this 66 mile ride had a totally different and much more enjoyable experience to JPJPJP. There were atleast four new riders/guest riders probably more, a wide range of ages, ability and experience. For some, this was their longest ever ride by far. A few tag alongs joined for part of the route too.
The majority of the ride was on very quiet country roads with little or no traffic. I remember on a number of occasions cars being waved by when it was safe to pass. There were no 'attacks', just people taking their own pace up the occasional inclines.

I could go on addressing each point, but feel this is not the correct forum. JPJPJP should really have brought this up for discussion on the SCC site rather than in a forum which his fellow riders are unable to see or comment.
No ride is perfect, but how can riders and club improve if comments are made in a forum which few if any of the club members subscribe to? This thread was only spotted by chance otherwise noone would be any wiser.
I'm sure if JPJPJP would like to raise any comments on the SCC site, appropriate comment will be made.

I am pleased that you and others had a more enjoyable experience on that ride.

That you judge the ride differently to me is fine. Maybe you are right and maybe I am wrong.

Any club that encourages new riders / guests in the way that SCC does is doing a very good thing for the sport and is to be commended.

I tried it and - for the reasons mentioned in my OP - found it not to be to my liking.

For me, a club run that includes

- a rider crashing
- a motorist forced into evasive action to avoid ploughing into a rider riding out on to the whiteline and, as a result, then feeling the need to stop his orange pick up and get out of the cab at the side of the road to remonstrate with the bunch
- litter being repeatedly dropped by people in the bunch

simply isn't how I want to spend my Sunday mornings.

For anyone that is an SCC member, prospective member or guest rider, I wish you well and hope you do enjoy every mile of every ride you do.

If the events of this ride that cause me to feel as I do were isolated incidents (or just that I am over sensitive to such things) and the club is a fantastic one, then my decision not to investigate further after just that one club run may turn out to be short sighted.

If that is the case, it is my loss. I can live with that.

[AyBee]

Dizeee said:

thiscocks said:

When your at the back of a group and you hear someone at the front shout hole its of absolute no use what so ever. What is useful is if the rider in front of you points to a hole.

Spot on.

If your lucky enough to hear a warning, then comes the dreaded "where the f--- is it" and preparation for a quick hop over it...

:no: If you're riding at pace in a bunch, the time it takes for the person behind to notice the hand point, then point and for that to trickle back you'll have hit whatever it is they were pointing to, I'd much rather hear a shout at the front.

[SpeckledJim]

Rolling golfers.

But at least golfers keep it to their own patch.

[Dizeee]

AyBee said:

:no: If you're riding at pace in a bunch, the time it takes for the person behind to notice the hand point, then point and for that to trickle back you'll have hit whatever it is they were pointing to, I'd much rather hear a shout at the front.

That's as maybe, but a shout at the front, which turns into a muffled vocal chant from around 3 bikes back, does not do anything to help locate where the hole may be. So there's no useful manoeuvre you can make with just a shout from the front, other than grit your teeth and hope you don't go over whatever or wherever it is.