Think I may have buggered my knee's

Think I may have buggered my knee's

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cirian75

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4,245 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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My knee's have never be the best since as long as I can remember.

my both knee's seem to have developed a clunk over night.

when ever I swing the leg back at the knee up to and past 90 degrees I can feel my knee clunk, I have either never noticed it before or its a brand new clunk.

I think I trip to doc's is in order.

Fluffsri

3,161 posts

195 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Must be getting old fella lol. Try some cod liver oil, I take a daily dose and my knees dont click, crack and creak like they used to.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Doctor will simply refer you to a physio clinic if you genuinely think there is a problem but they may not be a sports injury specialist. Personally I'd pop into your local running shops for recommendations of a good physio they use. Yes its going to cost you but I think you will get better results and without the waiting time.

Rowley Birkin

26,271 posts

221 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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cirian75 said:
My knee's have never be the best since as long as I can remember.

my both knee's seem to have developed a clunk over night.
You've got apostrophes in them.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Up Cadence

Have you suddenly increased the miles?

Is your bike correctly fitted, or at least saddle /not high or too low

Do you what takes the pressure off my knees...its wearing the stiffest shoes possible, or at least carbon fibre shoes with a SPD-sl cleat, I have a variety of shoes/pedals/bikes If I commute everyday using softer base shoes, after 3 days my knees and thighs ache a bit. Whereas if I use my stiff Carbon Shoes all week I get no knee pain and thighs ache less, using a stiffer shoe seems to employ a greater range of muscles on my leg, or at least takes pressure off my knees.

loudlashadjuster

5,084 posts

183 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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There are plenty of guides to fitting yourself to the bike, check that you're not over extending your leg in particular.

Also, don't slog it out on the big gears, drop it down a cog or two and up the cadence. You'll go faster for longer and there's less stress on your knees.

cirian75

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4,245 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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riding in soft trainers atm

Am looking at getting proper bike shoes, but I'm a commuter and also have a risk of having to walk with a puncture = mtb shoes

the fit is close to right but could do with tweeking a little

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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cirian75 said:
riding in soft trainers atm

Am looking at getting proper bike shoes, but I'm a commuter and also have a risk of having to walk with a puncture = mtb shoes

the fit is close to right but could do with tweeking a little
Why would you have to walk with puncture? Fit decent puncture resistant tyres and fix them on the road if they go

MTB shoes are a good shout if commuting, for going in shops or walking with bike at end

JD PH

2,668 posts

116 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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loudlashadjuster said:
There are plenty of guides to fitting yourself to the bike, check that you're not over extending your leg in particular.

Also, don't slog it out on the big gears, drop it down a cog or two and up the cadence. You'll go faster for longer and there's less stress on your knees.
What he said!

I went through this a few years ago after changing bikes. I didn't sort it soon enough which meant to took ages for my knees to get back to normal once I got my position sorted. It makes a much bigger difference than you might imagine and (touch wood) my knees are fine now, even after big rides back to back.

Gruffy

7,212 posts

258 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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pablo said:
Doctor will simply refer you to a physio clinic if you genuinely think there is a problem but they may not be a sports injury specialist. Personally I'd pop into your local running shops for recommendations of a good physio they use. Yes its going to cost you but I think you will get better results and without the waiting time.
This. Definitely this. Physios are awesome and I wish I'd have dealt with my knee problems earlier instead of being sidelined for 4 years! When you do go to see them remember to take a worn pair of shoes with you. Most problems begin at the feet and this will help them to see how you walk/run.

tobinen

9,184 posts

144 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Tomorrow I have my 9th of 10 physio sessions to sort my knee out from the TdP stage 3. It's now been 3 months since I rode.

My patella (knee cap) doesn't track properly and clicks when I walk up stairs but this is not the cause of the pain. The pain is centred below and at the front the cap. My exercises have all been concentrated on stretching the ITBs and hamstrings and trying to engage my glutes.

It's slow progress and I've been good in keeping to the regime given to me. I really struggle with hamstring stretching but I think I am seeing some give at last. I still have a dull ache at the base of the cap but I haven't ridden in anger to see if the pain has gone. I've done 2 spin classes with no issue.

I've never had a injured knee before so I have no idea how long it will take. I hope I am near the end.

My LBS is rebuilding my Bianchi but it would be quicker to raise the Titanic quite frankly. He's decided to call it a day and close so his mind is elsewhere.

cirian75

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4,245 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Thinking back to last night’s ride home

In two places I totally smashed it, getting away from the cars at the bottom of Deansgate, and then across the mancunian way onto Chorlton road

And I mean out of the seat pumping hard smashing it.

I will not be doing that again ever unless life and limb is in danger

So no more riding till the bike has proper clipped pedals I have proper shoes on.

The old adidas are getting chopped and binned as not to be tempted.

Also going to have a my bike fit checked by my mate who is a bike nutter and his OH is on Team GB

Also going to start taking a cod liver oil/Glucosamine supplement, I am 40 in December

So it will be 3 to 5 days before I ride again.

If it’s still buggered after that, off to see a sports specialist.

loudlashadjuster

5,084 posts

183 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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I wouldn't worry too much about mashing it causing you the grief, there's still a lot less stress on the knee from that burst of effort than there would be from a light jog.

I'd also say you'd be best staying on trainers and away from clipless if your knees are giving you problems now. The constriction in movement with clipless, even with a lot of float, is known to aggravate knee issues. A pair of solid MTB/skate shoes (FiveTens are brilliant) with decent flats might be a much better choice.

JustinF

6,795 posts

202 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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tobinen said:
Tomorrow I have my 9th of 10 physio sessions to sort my knee out from the TdP stage 3. It's now been 3 months since I rode.

My patella (knee cap) doesn't track properly and clicks when I walk up stairs but this is not the cause of the pain. The pain is centred below and at the front the cap. My exercises have all been concentrated on stretching the ITBs and hamstrings and trying to engage my glutes.

It's slow progress and I've been good in keeping to the regime given to me. I really struggle with hamstring stretching but I think I am seeing some give at last. I still have a dull ache at the base of the cap but I haven't ridden in anger to see if the pain has gone. I've done 2 spin classes with no issue.

I've never had a injured knee before so I have no idea how long it will take. I hope I am near the end.

My LBS is rebuilding my Bianchi but it would be quicker to raise the Titanic quite frankly. He's decided to call it a day and close so his mind is elsewhere.
There's light at the end of the tunnel, I remember talking to you about knees at Moreton, mentioning it had had my off anything long for a year. Turns out the problem was not just my saddle being too high and causing over extension, it was as much that both my job and leisure time have me sitting down, my hamstrings are rarely at full extension, thus they complain. I now have a stool under my desk so I sit with my legs extended and I've not had a twinge or inflammation issue in months

cirian75

Original Poster:

4,245 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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mmm, sounds like me, this afternoon I've had my legs straightened out and my knees are much less owie.

cirian75

Original Poster:

4,245 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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supplements are in



a pair of road bike shoes are on their way

JustinF

6,795 posts

202 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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ibuprofen too, recommended dose is 2 every 4 hours on standard 400mg tablets, I've found 2 to start the does then 1 every two hours to keep it topped works a treat. Obvious caveats of not being a medical professional apply.

cirian75

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4,245 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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JustinF said:
ibuprofen too, recommended dose is 2 every 4 hours on standard 400mg tablets, I've found 2 to start the does then 1 every two hours to keep it topped works a treat. Obvious caveats of not being a medical professional apply.
Can't take ibuprofen, my gallbladder hates the stuff and make sure I know about itfrown

bigdom

2,072 posts

144 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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You can buy diclofenac (a different anti inflammatory drug) in smaller mg doses than the doctor would prescribe over the counter in boots.

gazza285

9,780 posts

207 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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bigdom said:
You can buy diclofenac (a different anti inflammatory drug) in smaller mg doses than the doctor would prescribe over the counter in boots.
Diclofenac is great, but I thought it was available only on prescription since January, other than the Voltarol gel.