Anyone have an E bike?

[ZesPak]

This thread has everything you expect from the "cyclists":

• Holier than thou mentality: check
• Everyone who doesn't do it fully human powered is a lazy and should get in shape: check
• The above applies even though you do double or triple their commute
• The above also applies even if you're not a civil servant and therefore are required some personal hygiene

[Kermit power]

cirian75 said:

question

as a E-Bike is motorised

does this mean the normal car/motobike regs apply if drunk or speeding ?

I believe the same drink regs apply as do to a Reliant Robin. If you're a bit pissed, you're less likely to notice the scornful looks from those around you.

[TwistingMyMelon]

ZesPak said:

This thread has everything you expect from the "cyclists":

• Holier than thou mentality: check
• Everyone who doesn't do it fully human powered is a lazy and should get in shape: check
• The above applies even though you do double or triple their commute
• The above also applies even if you're not a civil servant and therefore are required some personal hygiene

Blimey , there have been a balance and mixture of replies if you read the thread properly!

[WinstonWolf]

TwistingMyMelon said:

ZesPak said:

This thread has everything you expect from the "cyclists":

• Holier than thou mentality: check
• Everyone who doesn't do it fully human powered is a lazy and should get in shape: check
• The above applies even though you do double or triple their commute
• The above also applies even if you're not a civil servant and therefore are required some personal hygiene

Blimey , there have been a balance and mixture of replies if you read the thread properly!

And e-bikes are *definitely* cheating

[TwistingMyMelon]

johnwilliams77 said:

S10GTA said:

For those who have zero planning skills and are lazy. I take a bag with clothes in a couple of times a week and leave them at work. Its not tricky. Only need to shower at the height of summer.

I am glad I don't sit near you stinky. So in winter you shower at home then cycle 10miles to work and go straight to your desk?

I cycle each way, often don't shower before or when I get to work, don't smell either, don't shower when I get home either until later in evening, I'm sure my misses and kids would have let me know if I stink as they don't hold back with other things!!

[S10GTA]

TwistingMyMelon said:

johnwilliams77 said:

S10GTA said:

For those who have zero planning skills and are lazy. I take a bag with clothes in a couple of times a week and leave them at work. Its not tricky. Only need to shower at the height of summer.

I am glad I don't sit near you stinky. So in winter you shower at home then cycle 10miles to work and go straight to your desk?

I cycle each way, often don't shower before or when I get to work, don't smell either, don't shower when I get home either until later in evening, I'm sure my misses and kids would have let me know if I stink as they don't hold back with other things!!

This. Babywipes are great.

[Kermit power]

ZesPak said:

This thread has everything you expect from the "cyclists":

• Holier than thou mentality: check
• Everyone who doesn't do it fully human powered is a lazy and should get in shape: check
• The above applies even though you do double or triple their commute
• The above also applies even if you're not a civil servant and therefore are required some personal hygiene

Hark! Is that the twittering of an E-bike owner trying to convince himself that he's still rugged and manly?

The only possible excuse for them if you're fully able-bodied is a 10+ mile commute to a place of work where you don't have access to showers. Other than that, stop being such a wuss and get on your bike!

[ZesPak]

Kermit power said:

Hark! Is that the twittering of an E-bike owner trying to convince himself that he's still rugged and manly?

The only possible excuse for them if you're fully able-bodied is a 10+ mile commute to a place of work where you don't have access to showers. Other than that, stop being such a wuss and get on your bike!

Nope, don't own an E bike, wish my commute was only 30 miles.
For you that might be the only possible excuse, but how many people actually commute 6+ miles by bike? If this helps even a couple of people (who are obviously not in as great shape as you are) to take the bike over any other form of transport, I'm all for it.

Otherwise, how about just cutting down on time? For the same effort that got you 10mph before (not everyone loves to show all his assets by wearing lycra), you can do your commute at a steady 15mph, no matter what the weather does. That's some serious gain.

But yes, of course if you do it without batteries, you're better than everyone else . Or just get a real hpv like a recumbent bike instead of something as archaic as an upright bike .

[andrewrob]

Damn it, you've all got me thinking now. If I buy a kit and convert my existing bike (seen some around the £200 mark without batteries) I already have a stack of 5000mah 6S batteries I could use (running them in sets of 2 in series), although unsure of what kind capacity I need for a reasonable range.
My commute is just under 8 miles each way so not too far and if I've read the google cycling map thing correctly under 200ft of elevation change

[ZesPak]

andrewrob said:

My commute is just under 8 miles each way so not too far and if I've read the google cycling map thing correctly under 200ft of elevation change

Kermit power said:

The only possible excuse for them if you're fully able-bodied is a 10+ mile commute to a place of work where you don't have access to showers. Other than that, stop being such a wuss and get on your bike!

So andrew, I assume you're not able-bodied? Otherwise there's no possible excuse for you to even consider an e bike.

[TTmonkey]

Have to laugh at people that don't think they smell, and believe they would be told if they do.....

[WinstonWolf]

ZesPak said:

Kermit power said:

Hark! Is that the twittering of an E-bike owner trying to convince himself that he's still rugged and manly?

The only possible excuse for them if you're fully able-bodied is a 10+ mile commute to a place of work where you don't have access to showers. Other than that, stop being such a wuss and get on your bike!

Nope, don't own an E bike, wish my commute was only 30 miles.
For you that might be the only possible excuse, but how many people actually commute 6+ miles by bike? If this helps even a couple of people (who are obviously not in as great shape as you are) to take the bike over any other form of transport, I'm all for it.

Otherwise, how about just cutting down on time? For the same effort that got you 10mph before (not everyone loves to show all his assets by wearing lycra), you can do your commute at a steady 15mph, no matter what the weather does. That's some serious gain.

But yes, of course if you do it without batteries, you're better than everyone else . Or just get a real hpv like a recumbent bike instead of something as archaic as an upright bike .

18 miles each way here I cycle because I love cookies and pies, if it was assisted I'd have to pedal even further to maintain the cookie/weight balance

[andrewrob]

ZesPak said:

andrewrob said:

My commute is just under 8 miles each way so not too far and if I've read the google cycling map thing correctly under 200ft of elevation change

Kermit power said:

The only possible excuse for them if you're fully able-bodied is a 10+ mile commute to a place of work where you don't have access to showers. Other than that, stop being such a wuss and get on your bike!

So andrew, I assume you're not able-bodied? Otherwise there's no possible excuse for you to even consider an e bike.

Haha, no I'm able bodied but I'd be dead by the time I'd got to work with no assistance plus I like gadgets! Also I'd need a shower when I got here and we don't have those

[SteveSteveson]

What I can't get my head round is people saying they want to use an e-bike so they can cycle but don't need a shower at work. Not sure where the gain is by having a shower at home then cycling rather than cycling then having a shower at work?

Personally I can't see the point in one. If I am going to cycle I would rather actually cycle on a simple machine under my own power. If I am going to have something complex, heavy and expensive I would rather use my motorbike. For the price of an E-Bike you can pick up a CG125 and it will be much faster, more fun and safer than an E-Bike. People can do what they want, but they are not for me.

The only thing I dislike about them is the smug people that think I care when they overtake me. I get satisfaction from pushing myself cycling and doing it myself. I don't care about e-bikes overtaking me any more than I care about a motorbike overtaking me. If someone thinks that they have somehow "beaten" me or shown me up because they are unfit and on an e-bike it says a lot more about them than me. Especially those who think it is somehow something to be proud of and look down on people who wear lycra and do all the work themselves. Good for you. You managed to go faster with a motor than I did without one.

[S10GTA]

SteveSteveson said:

What I can't get my head round is people saying they want to use an e-bike so they can cycle but don't need a shower at work. Not sure where the gain is by having a shower at home then cycling rather than cycling then having a shower at work?

Personally I can't see the point in one. If I am going to cycle I would rather actually cycle on a simple machine under my own power. If I am going to have something complex, heavy and expensive I would rather use my motorbike. For the price of an E-Bike you can pick up a CG125 and it will be much faster, more fun and safer than an E-Bike. People can do what they want, but they are not for me.

The only thing I dislike about them is the smug people that think I care when they overtake me. I get satisfaction from pushing myself cycling and doing it myself. I don't care about e-bikes overtaking me any more than I care about a motorbike overtaking me. If someone thinks that they have somehow "beaten" me or shown me up because they are unfit and on an e-bike it says a lot more about them than me. Especially those who think it is somehow something to be proud of and look down on people who wear lycra and do all the work themselves. Good for you. You managed to go faster with a motor than I did without one.

I passed one last night on my bike. He was a bit surprised.

[andrewrob]

SteveSteveson said:

The only thing I dislike about them is the smug people that think I care when they overtake me.

You don't care about them overtaking you, but you care about what you think they think that you think when overtaking you?

[andrewrob]

SteveSteveson said:

What I can't get my head round is people saying they want to use an e-bike so they can cycle but don't need a shower at work. Not sure where the gain is by having a shower at home then cycling rather than cycling then having a shower at work?

If I showered at home before I left I'd still be a mess by the time I'd got to work, I'm just not very fit and don't really want to turn up looking and smelling like that. Hopefully over time with the pedalling combined with electric motor I'll get to a point where I'm fit enough not to need the electric assist and manage to not look and smell half dead when I arrive.

[SteveSteveson]

andrewrob said:

SteveSteveson said:

The only thing I dislike about them is the smug people that think I care when they overtake me.

You don't care about them overtaking you, but you care about what you think they think that you think when overtaking you?

No, not what I think they think, but what people say in this thread... See the comments about overtaking people in lycra.

andrewrob said:

SteveSteveson said:

What I can't get my head round is people saying they want to use an e-bike so they can cycle but don't need a shower at work. Not sure where the gain is by having a shower at home then cycling rather than cycling then having a shower at work?

If I showered at home before I left I'd still be a mess by the time I'd got to work, I'm just not very fit and don't really want to turn up looking and smelling like that.

I think your missing what I'm saying... People say that cycling to work is such a faf as you have to shower when you get to work. But if you shower at work you don't need to shower at home in the morning. If your using an e-bike to get fit but without putting in enough effort to get sweaty your probably not ever going to get fit.

[andrewrob]

SteveSteveson said:

andrewrob said:

SteveSteveson said:

SteveSteveson said:

The only thing I dislike about them is the smug people that think I care when they overtake me.

You don't care about them overtaking you, but you care about what you think they think that you think when overtaking you?

No, not what I think they think, but what people say in this thread... See the comments about overtaking people in lycra.

Ah I see, that makes more sense now.

andrewrob said:

SteveSteveson said:

What I can't get my head round is people saying they want to use an e-bike so they can cycle but don't need a shower at work. Not sure where the gain is by having a shower at home then cycling rather than cycling then having a shower at work?

If I showered at home before I left I'd still be a mess by the time I'd got to work, I'm just not very fit and don't really want to turn up looking and smelling like that.

I think your missing what I'm saying... People say that cycling to work is such a faf as you have to shower when you get to work. But if you shower at work you don't need to shower at home in the morning. If your using an e-bike to get fit but without putting in enough effort to get sweaty your probably not ever going to get fit.

For me its more of a cheaper way to get to work than exercise. I know I'm not going to get fit by just doing this but its still going to be better than sat in a car

[Kermit power]

ZesPak said:

Nope, don't own an E bike, wish my commute was only 30 miles.
For you that might be the only possible excuse, but how many people actually commute 6+ miles by bike? If this helps even a couple of people (who are obviously not in as great shape as you are) to take the bike over any other form of transport, I'm all for it.

Otherwise, how about just cutting down on time? For the same effort that got you 10mph before (not everyone loves to show all his assets by wearing lycra), you can do your commute at a steady 15mph, no matter what the weather does. That's some serious gain.

But yes, of course if you do it without batteries, you're better than everyone else . Or just get a real hpv like a recumbent bike instead of something as archaic as an upright bike .

I'm 5'10. Since I started commuting, I've dropped from just under 20 stone to 17.5 stone, but that's still not 17.5 stone of finely toned muscle!

If I can do it, so can well over 99% of the population. Maybe not every day, and to start with, maybe not both ways even on one day, but they can do it, and they don't need an E-bike to do it.

Giving it more thought, I'd allow an exemption for anyone unfit with hills of more than 5% gradient, but other than that, if they can't be arsed to get out of the car and give it a try, I don't think an E-bike is going to make a blind bit of difference.