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wobert said:
Tunnabora tonight, I've decided I hate speed intervals, but hey, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?
Well, within reason 
How did you find the workout itself?
I woke up with a "Hmmm, is that a sore throat, or am I imagining it?" sort of feeling. Felt ok and felt ok on the bike (you can see my workout I did.... And my heart rate was about normal for the workout, if anything, a shade lower. If I was ill I'd have expected it higher. Tomorrow will tell.....
If I feel ok then I'm unsure about Wednesday, I was going to do "centennial" which is a climbing workout. I'm torn between doing Sufferfest power station and then some of centennial.... Or..... I also use "virtual training" by cycleops. I've plotted the climb "Angliru" which is insane.... Half tempted to give that a shot, although I know it'll be seriously tough to get up it.
E65Ross said:
Well, within reason
How did you find the workout itself?
I woke up with a "Hmmm, is that a sore throat, or am I imagining it?" sort of feeling. Felt ok and felt ok on the bike (you can see my workout I did.... And my heart rate was about normal for the workout, if anything, a shade lower. If I was ill I'd have expected it higher. Tomorrow will tell.....
If I feel ok then I'm unsure about Wednesday, I was going to do "centennial" which is a climbing workout. I'm torn between doing Sufferfest power station and then some of centennial.... Or..... I also use "virtual training" by cycleops. I've plotted the climb "Angliru" which is insane.... Half tempted to give that a shot, although I know it'll be seriously tough to get up it.
If I'm being honest the latter intervals were hard to keep the speed variations up, on.How did you find the workout itself?
I woke up with a "Hmmm, is that a sore throat, or am I imagining it?" sort of feeling. Felt ok and felt ok on the bike (you can see my workout I did.... And my heart rate was about normal for the workout, if anything, a shade lower. If I was ill I'd have expected it higher. Tomorrow will tell.....
If I feel ok then I'm unsure about Wednesday, I was going to do "centennial" which is a climbing workout. I'm torn between doing Sufferfest power station and then some of centennial.... Or..... I also use "virtual training" by cycleops. I've plotted the climb "Angliru" which is insane.... Half tempted to give that a shot, although I know it'll be seriously tough to get up it.
My natural cadence is 88-90 rpm, so anything above that requires some effort.
I was trying to limit increases to 4 rpm per step, flat out I was around 102-104 rpm.
By the last interval not even the music was distracting me from my legs....
Gren said:
Get a strap. The Vivosmart is crap on a turbo. For some reason it reads far worse than out on the road. Maybe the sweat? It spikes all over, drops often and seems to lag a lot more than a strap especially when in recovery periods. It's never been a great HRM but seems worse for intensive activities/intervals
37Flipper said:
I've got a vivosmart HR, I dont think it's that great for reading HR, it doesn't always read and I want my HR recorded for a whole training session or ride*, my last sensor made a break for it on a sportive last year when I was in a portaloo (don't ask)!! I just put a request in via FB and picked one up for £20, I find it much more reliable.
You guys were right, the Vivosmart is not great on a turbo. Replacement strap ordered.- *because I'm a tart.....
) after weekend outdoor rides and Monday off. Actually starting to quite like the TT.okgo said:
Please don't do 1 leg drills.
Totally pointless and a good way of injuring yourself.
I must admit, I was really not sure of what the purpose of these are.Totally pointless and a good way of injuring yourself.
I tried it on one of the earlier sessions and gave up after one leg. I take it you are supposed to unclip and dangle the spare leg in space?
When I used to go spinning, the instructor would do leg drills by telling us to remain with both feet on the pedals, but concentrate on making the effort and technique work on the working leg.
The pedals are like a pair of scales, unbalance them and it becomes so unbalanced it cant be good?
Due to the sore throat I'll be doing a gentle hour or so if I feel generally ok. Certainly not the tough threshold and VO2 max session I had planned.
Probably means 1-2 weeks of really cutting back before getting back to it. I've trained through illnesses before.... Just isn't worth it.
Probably means 1-2 weeks of really cutting back before getting back to it. I've trained through illnesses before.... Just isn't worth it.
Gould+1 for my session earlier on this evening. I found it hard to motivate myself for it as I knew it was going to hurt. It did. A lot. It was a bit like revolver on Suffferfest, but worse!! Only 11 intervals, but either 3 or 4 mins high power. The worst were 130% ftp. I started to fade towards the end, so I had to give myself a good talking too to make sure I didn't give up!
Definitely not feeling great this morning 
sore throat a bit worse and a bit of a cough as well. I'm off work today anyway so I've had a nice lie in. Depending on how I feel I MAY do a gentle 30mins or so in zone 1 just to keep the legs spinning. I'm working 11 hour days tomorrow and Friday.... Usually I get up extra early tomorrow to ride about 50mins before work but I won't be doing that, so of I don't cycle today it means no cycling until Saturday. So I'll probably do something but just extremely gentle.
Hey ho!
Never done Gould +1 but I have done Gould +2 a couple of times.... It's a fantastic workout, one of my favourites from the TR sessions, but yes.... It's not easy.
But it's not harder than Revolver..... Revolver in TR is actually just about impossible if your FTP is correct I reckon. The sufferfest app suggests efforts of 120-135%, but TR has them all at 135%....I remember when I did it, it killed me.... I had a rest week soon after and did another FTP test and found my FTP was over 5% higher than what it was set at...
sore throat a bit worse and a bit of a cough as well. I'm off work today anyway so I've had a nice lie in. Depending on how I feel I MAY do a gentle 30mins or so in zone 1 just to keep the legs spinning. I'm working 11 hour days tomorrow and Friday.... Usually I get up extra early tomorrow to ride about 50mins before work but I won't be doing that, so of I don't cycle today it means no cycling until Saturday. So I'll probably do something but just extremely gentle. Hey ho!
Never done Gould +1 but I have done Gould +2 a couple of times.... It's a fantastic workout, one of my favourites from the TR sessions, but yes.... It's not easy.
But it's not harder than Revolver..... Revolver in TR is actually just about impossible if your FTP is correct I reckon. The sufferfest app suggests efforts of 120-135%, but TR has them all at 135%....I remember when I did it, it killed me.... I had a rest week soon after and did another FTP test and found my FTP was over 5% higher than what it was set at...
Really feeling the effects of last night, I am away tomorrow until Sunday so was planning on getting another ride in tonight, but may have to rest instead. I will see how my backside feels later.
I see that TR have changed some of the plans to remove the very long rides and replace them with two shorter ones. That will suit my time management more so have stopped Sweet Spot Base Mid Volume 1 and then immediately restarted it and skipped the rides I've already done in the first week.
I see that TR have changed some of the plans to remove the very long rides and replace them with two shorter ones. That will suit my time management more so have stopped Sweet Spot Base Mid Volume 1 and then immediately restarted it and skipped the rides I've already done in the first week.
So did the 8m FTP last night, having been off the bike for 4wks and recovering fro ma pneemonia. Expected to be blowing out of every available oriphice as I tried to hit the target FTP based on my 262.
However, given this fear the first block I started to build too slowly and really aimed over the 2 to have a consistent pace rather than just ramp it up at the end. Focussed on the cadence and maintaining once I had found the power I wanted and then held onto it.
Last test I did was Feb last year and tested at 262. Then rode another 6500kms throughout the year and afte rlast night I tested at 257 and could have produced more if I'd started the first harder. I wasn't close to vomitting and came down the stairs without jelly legs.
So I'm pretty happy as my fitness has gone, but the gap I feared (which meant I ramped slowly in the first 8mins) has developed, but I feared I would be signficantly below last years figure.
With this renewed joy I ignored the advice to adjust to 257, kept TR FTP at 262 and I'm off to try and get to some kind of fitness before the Amstel ....
Target is to reach 3.35w/kg, currently at 3w/kgs exactly. So 5kgs to lose and 13 watts to gain. Reasonable as a 12wk target? Approx 12% increase?
However, given this fear the first block I started to build too slowly and really aimed over the 2 to have a consistent pace rather than just ramp it up at the end. Focussed on the cadence and maintaining once I had found the power I wanted and then held onto it.
Last test I did was Feb last year and tested at 262. Then rode another 6500kms throughout the year and afte rlast night I tested at 257 and could have produced more if I'd started the first harder. I wasn't close to vomitting and came down the stairs without jelly legs.
So I'm pretty happy as my fitness has gone, but the gap I feared (which meant I ramped slowly in the first 8mins) has developed, but I feared I would be signficantly below last years figure.
With this renewed joy I ignored the advice to adjust to 257, kept TR FTP at 262 and I'm off to try and get to some kind of fitness before the Amstel ....
Target is to reach 3.35w/kg, currently at 3w/kgs exactly. So 5kgs to lose and 13 watts to gain. Reasonable as a 12wk target? Approx 12% increase?
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