What puncture proof MTB tyre for mud, clay, chalk and flint?

[mikeveal]

As per the title really.
Was out for a lunchtime ride yesterday. It was the second ride on a Nobby Nic (performance, folding, 26"*2.25"). The tyre split part on the side wall, part on the tread. It's clearly light weight rubbish and isn't fit for purpose. It's failed catastrophically in less than 15 miles.

So what should I buy that isn't going to fall apart (for mud, clay chalk and sadly flint)?

TIA.

[richardxjr]

Nothing is puncture proof. But...

Maxxis EXO casing, and that is also used in On One Chunky Monkey 2.4" front, On One Smorgasbord 2.25" rear. Just fantastic all rounders and often silly cheap.

or

Specialized, Grid casing (although I use Control and am lucky it would seem)

and

Tubeless of course.

[rhinochopig]

mikeveal said:

As per the title really.
for mud, clay chalk and sadly flint?

TIA.

You don't want much do you

Conti Mountain King II in protection spec are a very good all-rounder, but no tyre will ride well in all those conditions. Also go for 2.4 as they come up VERY VERY small in sizing. 2.4s on an xc rim measure less that 2" and 2.2" on a full DH rim. They pedal well up and down too which is important unless you ride DH or Enduro..

[Craikeybaby]

Another vote for Conti Protection spec, althoug I'm using the X-Kings. Also consider running tubeless, it won't stop a massive puncture (so take tubes with you), but small ones will patch themselves.

[The_Jackal]

Another vote for the Smorgasbord and Chunky Monkey from OnOne.
Said to be made by Maxxis for OnOne.
Nice and grippy and tough.
Chunky on the front and Smorg on the back Trail Extreme versions.
You could buy two for the price of one other tyre.
I run them at just under 30psi with tubes and they conform nicely to all kinds of surfaces. I had a noticeable improvement in grip on roots and rocks over a Kendra Nevegal.

[Kermit power]

The_Jackal said:

Another vote for the Smorgasbord and Chunky Monkey from OnOne.
Said to be made by Maxxis for OnOne.
Nice and grippy and tough.
Chunky on the front and Smorg on the back Trail Extreme versions.
You could buy two for the price of one other tyre.
I run them at just under 30psi with tubes and they conform nicely to all kinds of surfaces. I had a noticeable improvement in grip on roots and rocks over a Kendra Nevegal.

Exactly my experience with them after RichardXJR recommended them. I've not really had to try them in mud, but they've been great in everything else so far.

They're not said to be made by Maxxis, btw. They are made by Maxxis. I'm pretty sure they would've sued OnOne by now if they weren't given that it's there on their website in black & white.

[richardxjr]

Yes they are defo Maxxis & EXO casings at that. Except they're not allowed to call them that, so they call them t'Yorkshire version ECKSO

South downs chalk mud flint, Wales trail centres, Alps...

[Kermit power]

richardxjr said:

Wales trail centres

Not flint, but still loads of loose rocks and stones at BPW and Cwmcarn, all of which were happily shrugged off by my OnOne combo.

[AW10]

Good luck in the flinty south downs so far with Nobby Nic Evo Double Defense...

[Herman Toothrot]

AW10 said:

Good luck in the flinty south downs so far with Nobby Nic Evo Double Defense...

That's what I've ended up with in the Chilterns, good tyre on the back. Anything lightweight basically forget about, Flint slices thin wall tyres to pieces. Got a new snake skin Magic Mary upfront and that's holding out well too.

[matt-ITR]

Schwalbe tyres are great, but I would only ever recommend the snakeskin or DD casing.
If you really don't want to puncture then get some dual ply DH tyres. There is of course a downside as everything is a compromise with tyres.

[mikeveal]

Thanks to one and all.

So Maxxis Exo casing or Chunky Monkey from OnOne.

I'd been looking at the Maxxis High Roller, so I was part way there.

I work near the Ridgeway in Berkshire and I've bought a cheap second hand bike just to get out in my lunch hour and explore the byways. That and because I need to do something healthy now I can no longer deny being middle aged! It's flint, chalk and clay.

So far, I have two punctures in a dozen rides. The first was on the old knackered tyre that came with the bike, so I just threw it away and bought the Nobby Nic. When I unboxed it I wasn't impressed with how flimsy the sidewalls were, ~15 miles later the tyres a write off. You can draw your own conclusions, but I'll never buy Schwalbe again.

[gazza285]

Nobby Nics are great XC tyres, light, supple and fast rolling, they are very good at what they are designed for.

[rhinochopig]

mikeveal said:

Thanks to one and all.

So Maxxis Exo casing or Chunky Monkey from OnOne.

I'd been looking at the Maxxis High Roller, so I was part way there.

I work near the Ridgeway in Berkshire and I've bought a cheap second hand bike just to get out in my lunch hour and explore the byways. That and because I need to do something healthy now I can no longer deny being middle aged! It's flint, chalk and clay.

So far, I have two punctures in a dozen rides. The first was on the old knackered tyre that came with the bike, so I just threw it away and bought the Nobby Nic. When I unboxed it I wasn't impressed with how flimsy the sidewalls were, ~15 miles later the tyres a write off. You can draw your own conclusions, but I'll never buy Schwalbe again.

One thing to consider is the weight of the tyres - maxxis / on one tend to be quite lardy and it makes a difference during a long ride. That's why I prefer Contis as they tend to be lighter.

[jshell]

mikeveal said:

I'd been looking at the Maxxis High Roller, so I was part way there.

Amazing, tough tyre. But, heavy and draggy. Like poo to a blanket tho'

[Don1]

I run high roller 2's front and rear - much the same ground.

For punctures - tubeless or look at Schwalbe Procore? I haven't tried it myself...

[Esders]

I will probably put a curse or something on the bike by saying this but I have had no problems running Nobby Nics with a Panaracer Flataway Kevlar tyre liner. Coming up to two years without a puncture. I cycle in the Chilterns and used to have all sorts of problems with the Nobby Nics before I fitted the Flataways. Forget the link because I have now closed the website, but here is a video that I took of the Flataway in action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux9Z8wIN9hE

[AW10]

[quote=mikeveal} The first was on the old knackered tyre that came with the bike, so I just threw it away and bought the Nobby Nic. When I unboxed it I wasn't impressed with how flimsy the sidewalls were, ~15 miles later the tyres a write off. You can draw your own conclusions, but I'll never buy Schwalbe again.


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Bear in mind there are 5 different variants of the Nobby Nic - horses for courses and all that. http://www.schwalbe.com/en/offroad-reader/nobby-ni...