Disc Brakes

[Kermit power]

Dizeee said:

lol

Wet arse doesn't bother me one jot.

Saving 5 mins getting home on a 30 mile journey does though!

For me, it's not about getting a wet arse on the way in, so much as making the difference between shorts having a chance to dry out in our generally humid locker room before riding home or not. Nothing worse than putting on moist shorts, and it's a right pain to carry in and use a second pair on the same day which then also needs washing.

Don't underestimate how much drier your feet stay either. The large majority of water hitting your feet without mudguards is coming up off the road, not falling on them directly out of the sky.

[Dizeee]

Yes but I find overshoes are more than enough and I have a huge drying room at work where clothes dry in a few hours.

[Kermit power]

Dizeee said:

Yes but I find overshoes are more than enough and I have a huge drying room at work where clothes dry in a few hours.

Fair enough. I was getting through 2-3 pairs of overshoes a year - I have 81 sets of lights on my commute, so lots of foot on, foot off tended to wear the bottoms out - but also hacked off by water coming in through the bottom.

I swapped to Northwave Goretex boots, but ultimately, at some point on a 15 mile ride in crap weather, rain is going to come down your tights into your boots, and it happens much faster without guards...

[yellowjack]

Kermit power said:

Fair enough. I was getting through 2-3 pairs of overshoes a year - I have 81 sets of lights on my commute, so lots of foot on, foot off tended to wear the bottoms out - but also hacked off by water coming in through the bottom.

I swapped to Northwave Goretex boots, but ultimately, at some point on a 15 mile ride in crap weather, rain is going to come down your tights into your boots, and it happens much faster without guards...

You found the major drawback to Goretex boots as well then?

All the water running down your legs has to go somewhere. It usually ends up INSIDE the boot after soaking down your bibs and socks. Then "because waterproof" the boots won't let any of the water escape. I spent two hours getting home on a long ride this winter in an absolutely biblical downpour, and by the time I arrived home I had enough water in my boots to fill a bath. Or at least that's what it felt like, sloshing about in there. But at least the insulation in the boots kept my wet feet warm.

The only answer is over-trousers really, to direct any run-off from your legs down the outside of the boots. But then over trousers are often uncomfortable, and come with a whole list of drawbacks of their very own.

[Kermit power]

yellowjack said:

You found the major drawback to Goretex boots as well then?

All the water running down your legs has to go somewhere. It usually ends up INSIDE the boot after soaking down your bibs and socks. Then "because waterproof" the boots won't let any of the water escape. I spent two hours getting home on a long ride this winter in an absolutely biblical downpour, and by the time I arrived home I had enough water in my boots to fill a bath. Or at least that's what it felt like, sloshing about in there. But at least the insulation in the boots kept my wet feet warm.

The only answer is over-trousers really, to direct any run-off from your legs down the outside of the boots. But then over trousers are often uncomfortable, and come with a whole list of drawbacks of their very own.

Indeed. I find them better than overshoes, because you don't get water coming in from below, and mudguards double or more the distance I can go before water starts coming in, plus as you say they work a bit like a wetsuit once it does, so at least your feet stay warm.

I don't mind at all in the evenings. The only horrid bit is having to put them back on in the evenings if they got wet in the morning. Not enough to go for horrible overtrousers though!

[RGambo]

The solution that I have adopted to the eternal wet feet problem is to get some velotoze https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=velotoze&rlz... and chop the bottom part off and fit them to your legs and over the top part of the winter boot. they are really tight so nothing goes down your leg inside them and the water just runs over the tops of the winter boot and not inside. I hope that makes sense, and it does seems to work.

Overshoes are great but as Yellowjack says, they're not the most comfortable things to wear.

[okgo]

That's a good idea Gambo

the Velotoze are good products generally, although a bit fragile, but any long ride will have your feet soaked with sweat anyway - when I did Liege the other week, after 9 hours in the saddle it was like my feet had been dunked in a river anyway

[okgo]

Enjoying following what you post on here vs what you post on Bikeradar dizeeeeeeeeeee - why Giant?

[Dizeee]

Just wondered what the equivalent was.

I think I'm going on go for a MY17 caad12 once they are available

[okgo]

Despite your fked back?

[Dizeee]

Back doesn't seem so f----ed anymore. Currently I have upped the mileage and all is well other than some sore muscles getting used to doing more miles again. Its taken a long time to get past the issues but having made it my sole aim, I am confident I have succeeded.

The position that I have adopted on my road bike now can apply to any frame of the correct size, and also the Caad. I can still ride the Caad with comfort from what I have experienced. To be honest it feels no less racy than my Impulso, which isn't an upright / comfort orientated bike either.