Cannondale habit 4 or Boardman fs pro
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daddy cool said:
RS4AL/Jackal - can either of you tell me if your shock locks out (either fully or partially)?
Mine doesnt (though it has the lever that swings 90 degrees)
Im wondering if they have deliberately disabled it considering the forks dont have a lockout - maybe they thought it didnt make sense?
On the other hand, im wondering whether to even bother asking Halfords for a replacement - its rare i would ever lock it out anyway...
ive got pikes and they do not fully lock out. I never use the function but even if I did I wouldn't expect them to fully lock as I think it's a bit of a safety factor to avoid breaking the fork. My rebas lock out more but still allow a little travel.Mine doesnt (though it has the lever that swings 90 degrees)
Im wondering if they have deliberately disabled it considering the forks dont have a lockout - maybe they thought it didnt make sense?
On the other hand, im wondering whether to even bother asking Halfords for a replacement - its rare i would ever lock it out anyway...
tjdixon911 said:
ive got pikes and they do not fully lock out. I never use the function but even if I did I wouldn't expect them to fully lock as I think it's a bit of a safety factor to avoid breaking the fork. My rebas lock out more but still allow a little travel.
Sorry, maybe i wasnt clear - i was questioning the rear shock, which does have a lockout switch (though seems not to work on mine)My forks (Pikes) do not even have a lockout function.
The rear shock does have a lockout.
Its the blue lever, you swing it out to the right (as you look down from above).
There will still be a bit of give but it does improve pedalling uphill.
I've never understood this obsession with lockout (not aimed at anyone here). Yes on the rear but not on the front. Anytime I have used it, it makes the bike feel more twitchy and uncomfortable.
Its the blue lever, you swing it out to the right (as you look down from above).
There will still be a bit of give but it does improve pedalling uphill.
I've never understood this obsession with lockout (not aimed at anyone here). Yes on the rear but not on the front. Anytime I have used it, it makes the bike feel more twitchy and uncomfortable.
The_Jackal said:
The rear shock does have a lockout.
Its the blue lever, you swing it out to the right (as you look down from above).
There will still be a bit of give but it does improve pedalling uphill.
Right - mine is definitely fubar then - there is no noticeable difference in the amount of travel between the two settings.Its the blue lever, you swing it out to the right (as you look down from above).
There will still be a bit of give but it does improve pedalling uphill.
Will have to see if Halfords can get a replacement shock in and swap it over while i wait.
Oh, while i have you - do you have a component reference for the BETD hanger you ordered? Thought i'd get one ordered before the current one breaks. How much was it?
daddy cool said:
Right - mine is definitely fubar then - there is no noticeable difference in the amount of travel between the two settings.
Will have to see if Halfords can get a replacement shock in and swap it over while i wait.
Oh, while i have you - do you have a component reference for the BETD hanger you ordered? Thought i'd get one ordered before the current one breaks. How much was it?
Firstly the hangar number is 403. If they are in stock and you get one let me know on here, as Halfords are claiming they are out of stock.Will have to see if Halfords can get a replacement shock in and swap it over while i wait.
Oh, while i have you - do you have a component reference for the BETD hanger you ordered? Thought i'd get one ordered before the current one breaks. How much was it?
With the shock make sure the red ring is fully open first(twist it round in the direction of the hare I think). If it is round in the closed position the shock will seem very stiff.
When you say "no noticeable difference" do you mean there is lots of movement in both lever positions (this only moves 90 degrees) or non at all. Have you set the sag properly to about 25%?
The_Jackal said:
Lower your brake levers a bit (your wrists will thank you for it)
Decent grippy pedals
Dropper post
BETD Hanger 403
That should do it lol
Not sure why Halfords always put the brake levers in that position? They have been adjusted suitably now and my clipless pedals installed!Decent grippy pedals
Dropper post
BETD Hanger 403
That should do it lol
Just trying to setup the suspension, but it's really a 2 man job
the rear shock was fairly simple, but front proving harder, sag is at around 20%Dropper post is the next upgrade
The_Jackal said:
Firstly the hangar number is 403. If they are in stock and you get one let me know on here, as Halfords are claiming they are out of stock.
Hmm - contacted BETD yesterday. The 403 hanger (£19.99) is listed as out of stock. I emailed the sales team who quickly emailed me back to say they were expecting it back in this week - and i could either keep checking the site or they would drop me a line.I just checked the site now, and its still OOS, but the price has just jumped up to £25. Cheeky f
kers! Clearly they are expecting more people will be wanting these so they want to cash-in. I just emailed them back to let them know ive noticed... (all other hangers are still £19.99)The_Jackal said:
With the shock make sure the red ring is fully open first(twist it round in the direction of the hare I think). If it is round in the closed position the shock will seem very stiff.
When you say "no noticeable difference" do you mean there is lots of movement in both lever positions (this only moves 90 degrees) or non at all. Have you set the sag properly to about 25%?
As for the bike, i think something is wrong. Sitting on it, i cant notice anything different when the shock is in the "locked" setting vs the "unlocked" setting.When you say "no noticeable difference" do you mean there is lots of movement in both lever positions (this only moves 90 degrees) or non at all. Have you set the sag properly to about 25%?
I can notice a difference if im standing next to the bike, and pushing down on the saddle - theres more resistance in the "locked" position.
Im also noticing that the lever is swinging out of its own accord to the 90 degree locked position when ive been on a bumpy section.
More worrying, i had my 4th ride last night, and whenever my rear wheel leaves the ground while pedaling (and i mean just bumpy ground, not "jumps") my gears jump. It feels like they do when they arent indexed properly, but i assume its something to do with the rear section now no longer being underload, so the rear shock can expand momentarily. This happens whether the shock is set to full-fast or full-slow rebound (rabbit or tortoise)
I dont understand whether its a related problem to the shock, or its the rear derailleur at fault - the fact its a clutch-type should mean that it keeps the tension.
Does any of that make sense? Going to clean the bike tonight and doublecheck all my pressures, but think im going to have to take it to Halfords. Thing is, i dont think its an issue you can demonstrate in-store... dunno what to do!
FurryExocet said:
Always over at Swinley probably twice a week, usually during the week as I'm a shift worker.
Going there on Sunday with some friends, was hoping to have the new bike
Hiya - when are you likely to be up at swinley next? Was just wondering if i could have a quick go on yours to try and determine why mine feels off... (would only need to be about 100 yards!) probably twice a week, usually during the week as I'm a shift worker.Going there on Sunday with some friends, was hoping to have the new bike
daddy cool said:
Hiya - when are you likely to be up at swinley next? Was just wondering if i could have a quick go on yours to try and determine why mine feels off... (would only need to be about 100 yards!)
Might possibly be over there tomorrow morning, depending on the rain, then it'll probably be a week on SundayFurry, the gears shouldn't jump from going over bumpy ground.
I would take it back to get the gears checked again but even more importantly get your shock checked.
There should be a noticeable difference with the shock and the lever should NOT just swing out of its own accord. It sounds like it is broken. Do you have a mate with a full susser than can cast his eyes over it?
If it is, get them to give you a shock off another bike if they have to send it away.
Oh and I paid £25 for my hanger, he said it was more than the usual ones as it is chunkier than most hangers and required more material. The weak current hanger may actually be what is causing your gear problems as it may not be strictly parallel with the cassette. My second gear kept slipping until I got my new hanger.
I would take it back to get the gears checked again but even more importantly get your shock checked.
There should be a noticeable difference with the shock and the lever should NOT just swing out of its own accord. It sounds like it is broken. Do you have a mate with a full susser than can cast his eyes over it?
If it is, get them to give you a shock off another bike if they have to send it away.
Oh and I paid £25 for my hanger, he said it was more than the usual ones as it is chunkier than most hangers and required more material. The weak current hanger may actually be what is causing your gear problems as it may not be strictly parallel with the cassette. My second gear kept slipping until I got my new hanger.
The 403 hangers are back in stock at BETD - just ordered one now.
In other news, I'm taking the bike back to Halfords today. Went for another ride last night, tried different shock pressures, tried fast and slow rebound settings, but gears still jump (or feel like they are jumping) when the rear wheel leaves the ground and the rear shock fully opens.
Swapped bikes with my mate (£3500 Cube) and he noticed it too (and I didn't notice it on his)
Not holding out much hope with Halfords - its not the sort of issue that is noticeable on flat ground or on a bike stand, so going to have a tough time explaining whats wrong! I can see i'll end up having to take it to a proper LBS to at least diagnose the issue...
In other news, I'm taking the bike back to Halfords today. Went for another ride last night, tried different shock pressures, tried fast and slow rebound settings, but gears still jump (or feel like they are jumping) when the rear wheel leaves the ground and the rear shock fully opens.
Swapped bikes with my mate (£3500 Cube) and he noticed it too (and I didn't notice it on his)
Not holding out much hope with Halfords - its not the sort of issue that is noticeable on flat ground or on a bike stand, so going to have a tough time explaining whats wrong! I can see i'll end up having to take it to a proper LBS to at least diagnose the issue...
When you say the gears feel like they are jumping, does it actually change gear or is the chain just catching on the next larger cog making a noise. I had this on 2nd gear and it disappeared the moment I put my new hanger on.
Remember the 1x11 has to be more accurately tuned and inline than older systems because of the wider chainline angles.
Get the Halfords guy to ride it himself around the car park so he can experience it.
Remember the 1x11 has to be more accurately tuned and inline than older systems because of the wider chainline angles.
Get the Halfords guy to ride it himself around the car park so he can experience it.
The_Jackal said:
When you say the gears feel like they are jumping, does it actually change gear or is the chain just catching on the next larger cog making a noise. I had this on 2nd gear and it disappeared the moment I put my new hanger on.
Remember the 1x11 has to be more accurately tuned and inline than older systems because of the wider chainline angles.
Get the Halfords guy to ride it himself around the car park so he can experience it.
Just back from halfords - they removed one chainlink, as the deraileur does look very "tucked-up" when in its smallest cog. I'll hit swinley tonight and see if its still happening.Remember the 1x11 has to be more accurately tuned and inline than older systems because of the wider chainline angles.
Get the Halfords guy to ride it himself around the car park so he can experience it.
He said he'd ride it around out the back, but i did point out that the issue only happens during small jumps/going over humps etc, and on tarmac or on a bike stand everything feels fine.
They said worst case to bring it back tomorrow and they'll swap with another boxed bike they have out the back, which is fair enough.
daddy cool said:
The_Jackal said:
When you say the gears feel like they are jumping, does it actually change gear or is the chain just catching on the next larger cog making a noise. I had this on 2nd gear and it disappeared the moment I put my new hanger on.
Remember the 1x11 has to be more accurately tuned and inline than older systems because of the wider chainline angles.
Get the Halfords guy to ride it himself around the car park so he can experience it.
Just back from halfords - they removed one chainlink, as the deraileur does look very "tucked-up" when in its smallest cog. I'll hit swinley tonight and see if its still happening.Remember the 1x11 has to be more accurately tuned and inline than older systems because of the wider chainline angles.
Get the Halfords guy to ride it himself around the car park so he can experience it.
He said he'd ride it around out the back, but i did point out that the issue only happens during small jumps/going over humps etc, and on tarmac or on a bike stand everything feels fine.
They said worst case to bring it back tomorrow and they'll swap with another boxed bike they have out the back, which is fair enough.
Gutted today, went tubeless and in the process of putting the front wheel back on, snapped the quick release on the axle pin! It literally just snapped in my hand
Off to Halfords tomorrow to see if they'll replace free off charge, not impressed that it broke so easily
The rear one was fine
Off to Halfords tomorrow to see if they'll replace free off charge, not impressed that it broke so easily
The rear one was fine
FurryExocet said:
Gutted today, went tubeless and in the process of putting the front wheel back on, snapped the quick release on the axle pin! It literally just snapped in my hand
Off to Halfords tomorrow to see if they'll replace free off charge, not impressed that it broke so easily
The rear one was fine
Isn't that a Rockshox maxle thru axle ?Off to Halfords tomorrow to see if they'll replace free off charge, not impressed that it broke so easily
The rear one was fine
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