Fixed Gear. WTF?

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Joey Ramone

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2,150 posts

125 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Tried it today. Bought a Fuji Feather with a flip flop hub a few weeks ago. Had it as a singlespeed from the off but thought I'd flip it and ride to the shops fixed.

fking hell, what a disaster, Utterly counterintuitive, and effing dangerous. Downhill almost had me off, and stopping was a complete lottery. I have absolutely no idea why anyone would want to do this outside a velodrome. Anyone care to illuminate me as to the benefits?

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

135 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Presumably it has brakes for stopping - going without is poserish nonsense; if it does, stopping should not be a lottery, it's not hard to kick it round so you're in a position to start.
Downhill just moderate your speed in line with what you can spin. Nothing counterintuitive, nothing dangerous.

Why?
1) It's an affectation, presumably stemming from when we didn't have good freehubs
2) I suspect from your warm and fuzzy reaction that you don't pedal/spin smoothly, few do. Surging, slowing, pedalling squares, etc.. riding fixed will 'fix' all of those and give you a nice fludity. Eventually.
3) Trackstanding is far easier fixed (whether that is cool, or w*nkerish depends on your point of view).

Banana Boy

467 posts

113 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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I don't know if I'd go as far as dangerous but I wasn't massively comfortable riding my single speed as a fixie. TBH though I think that was more down to the way I was using it rather than anything else. It's my family pootling bike so lots of slow speed stop starting etc.

Having to pedal round corners unnerved me a little sometimes too.

Nearly threw myself off on one of my first rides, completely forgot about the fixed gear coming down hill, stopped pedalling to 'freewheel' for a bit... queue me, leg locked, 'bouncing' out the saddle, my entire body following the pedals in a mild sense of panic for a few seconds before re-engaging the brain and letting my legs move with the pedals. It must have looked pretty damn funny. smile

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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I commuted on fixed for a few years.
Completely flat route which helped.
I just enjoyed the challenge of learning something new really.
I could crap on about learning to spin faster and becoming a “smoother” rider, but that would be bks.

Once, I forgot I was locked-in to the pedals, just once.
Bike tried to buck me off. Terrifying and then a little funny thinking about what a wally I must have looked.
(Generally true of 99% of fixie riders.)

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

181 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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I was wondering whether to flip my flop, but these funny stories sound a bit dangerous.

Some Gump

12,687 posts

186 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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I tried it for a week. You get used to it, it's fine, then some in a Corsa makes you hit the brakes suddenly. Nearly headbutted his window.

I decided that fixed might be good for training, but it's madness for commuting.

AyBee

10,533 posts

202 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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It takes getting used to - you can't do that in one ride for sure! I used to ride single speed on my commute, did what you did and flipped the wheel for a weekend ride, then kept it for the commute. At first, I absolutely hated it, but I kept forgetting to swap it back and soon got used to it. I enjoy it now and still ride fixed. I still have both brakes and you just have to use them to modulate your downhill speed if you think your legs are about to explode tongue out My commute is flat, so I don't really need to use them for that.

HardtopManual

2,420 posts

166 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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I commuted on an On One Il Pompino for years, loved it. Obviously I had the first-timer buck & crash, but I really enjoyed the feeling of connection with the bike, as though it was actually helping you along. I was never stronger than I was when I commuted on fixed, because I had no bail out gear for the hills.

Black can man

31,832 posts

168 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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I've been commuting on a single speed for around 3 months now, but i'm too scared to go Fixie , especially with all the irate Rambo-esq motorists in London .


Freewheel is hard enough , bloody killing my legs but i'm sure it's doing me better than bad.

Pachydermus

974 posts

112 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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walm said:
I could crap on about learning to spin faster and becoming a “smoother” rider, but that would be bks.
if you really want to do that just get some rollers.

PorkRind

3,053 posts

205 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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[quote=upsidedownmark]
2) I suspect from your warm and fuzzy reaction that you don't pedal/spin smoothly, few do. Surging, slowing, pedalling squares, etc.. riding fixed will 'fix' all of those and give you a nice fludity. Eventually.
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Id like to try just to become smoother !

Gruffy

7,212 posts

259 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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I just bought a flip-flop singlespeed/fixie as a town bike. Not ridden it yet as the seat post is seized and I bought it from a dwarf, but I'm curious to try it fixed. Feels a bit foolish to be pushing it through Central London fixed and I'll probably go freewheeling after a brief play fixed.

47p2

1,509 posts

161 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Biggest problem I had when I started riding fixed was with the poor road surfaces we have here. I've a tendency to stopping pedalling when I go over these broken surfaces on geared bikes, I always have, but trying to remember to keep pedalling on the fixed bike was a mind numbing experience. Almost came a cropper a few times before the brain got the hang of it...

D.A.S. biggrin

Zigster

1,645 posts

144 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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I commuted using a fixie when I was still in London - or, at least, it was one of the bikes I used. I used it single speed to start with, nervous about trying fixed. But I gave fixed a go and I found it surprisingly easy - just relax the legs and let the pedals keep them moving as an alternative to freewheeling.

What I found was it really helped me with smoother pedalling - I used to pedal a bit, free wheel, pedal a bit, free wheel, etc. On fixed, I had a smoother, more constant pedalling motion which I still have now when I'm on other bikes. I'll accept that it is more for doing something a bit different and fun than because of arguments like lower maintenance.

The only problem I had was hitting a speed bump going down Camberwell Grove with legs spinning like a hamster on a wheel. The bump bounced my feet out of the pedals and there was no way I could get them back in while I was doing 25mph. So I lifted my feet and cruised to the bottom with the pedals continuing to spin beneath me - must have looked ridiculous.

I still have a fixie, but I live in too hilly an area to make it a pleasurable experience.

jeremyc

23,426 posts

284 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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I've covered about 8,000 miles over the last 18 months on a single speed fixie, just for fun. biggrin

Why? Because I wanted the challenge of learning something new, and fancied not being "one of the herd". I ride mine wherever everyone else rides their conventional road bike: laps of the park, long road rides, up hill, down dale. smile

It appears to be great for keeping fit, and improving my strength. I also love the simplicity and connection with the process of cycling: just pedal - get up the hill, or get off. smile It's the true Zen of cycling, and it's amazing how much better one's observation and anticipation becomes.

I also love the mechanical simplicity and robustness of the bike - brakes don't wear out (because there is no need to use them), and the drivetrain lasts forever. biggrin

It's probably not for everyone, but I highly recommend trying it. I've no idea how it compares to a freewheel road bike with gears because I haven't ridden one since my early teens. hehe

Oh, and I'm game for any ride out challenge - bring it on! thumbup


neenaw

1,212 posts

189 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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I just commuted today for the first time on my Paddy Wagon singlespeed.
It's got a flip flop hub so seriously considering trying it fixed for a couple of weeks on the commute to see if I like it smile

Out of interest, what gearing are you guys running on the fixies?

Joey Ramone

Original Poster:

2,150 posts

125 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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46-16

Don't get me wrong, perfectly happy to take the (now) singlespeed out on a long training ride. And I love the simplicity of it. I just didn't enjoy riding fixed.

47p2

1,509 posts

161 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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neenaw said:
Out of interest, what gearing are you guys running on the fixies?
48T-17 fixed
48T-18 S/S freewheel

jeremyc

23,426 posts

284 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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neenaw said:
Out of interest, what gearing are you guys running on the fixies?
46/16 (I think).

My little legs top out at a maximum of 31mph. biggrin

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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jeremyc said:
I've covered about 8,000 miles over the last 18 months on a single speed fixie, just for fun. biggrin

Why? Because I wanted the challenge of learning something new, and fancied not being "one of the herd". I ride mine wherever everyone else rides their conventional road bike: laps of the park, long road rides, up hill, down dale. smile

It appears to be great for keeping fit, and improving my strength. I also love the simplicity and connection with the process of cycling: just pedal - get up the hill, or get off. smile It's the true Zen of cycling, and it's amazing how much better one's observation and anticipation becomes.

I also love the mechanical simplicity and robustness of the bike - brakes don't wear out (because there is no need to use them), and the drivetrain lasts forever. biggrin

It's probably not for everyone, but I highly recommend trying it. I've no idea how it compares to a freewheel road bike with gears because I haven't ridden one since my early teens. hehe

Oh, and I'm game for any ride out challenge - bring it on! thumbup

Many years ago I worked with a guy who goes out with the Pearson guys on their rides. (He still does) He also rides a fixie to commute. He is by far the best cyclist I know. Looking at his Strava figures is just pro level to me laugh

I drive past their newer shop every day now. Glad they are doing well.