Some cyclists don't help themselves, do they!
Discussion
Devil2575 said:
Big Rod said:
tuffer said:
I use lights all year, day and night.
Me too.It takes your eyes something like 30-60 seconds to adjust so I'm inclined to keep a tail light on to give me a better chance of being seen when going in and out of shadows, especially when the sun starts to get low.
Even on cycle paths I want to give the pedestrians as much warning of me approaching so keep my front light on.
Having to charge your lamps after every ride is a small price to pay to try and remove some doubt.
Devil2575 said:
SteveSteveson said:
What I don't understand is how people can be so angry towards bikes...
I do. It's a classic "Them and us" mentality.SteveSteveson said:
Devil2575 said:
SteveSteveson said:
What I don't understand is how people can be so angry towards bikes...
I do. It's a classic "Them and us" mentality.Any qualified psychologists on PH?
deeen said:
SteveSteveson said:
Devil2575 said:
SteveSteveson said:
What I don't understand is how people can be so angry towards bikes...
I do. It's a classic "Them and us" mentality.Any qualified psychologists on PH?
I think it's the same deep routed instincts that fuel racism and xenophobia.
deeen said:
I'm a part-time cyclist, but I still feel the red mist rise at the actions of some cyclists when I'm driving in London!
Any more so than with any other road user?London is a ste place to drive. Given how busy and potentially stressful it must be I'm not supprised that people get angry.
Devil2575 said:
deeen said:
I'm a part-time cyclist, but I still feel the red mist rise at the actions of some cyclists when I'm driving in London!
Any more so than with any other road user?London is a ste place to drive. Given how busy and potentially stressful it must be I'm not supprised that people get angry.
Cyclists are unfortunately an easy and obvious target when drivers vent their frustration, we're slower and more vulnerable and the poor education/terrible infrastructure means that we require special attention from the driver a lot of the time. Certain sections of the media don't help either...
Devil2575 said:
deeen said:
SteveSteveson said:
Devil2575 said:
SteveSteveson said:
What I don't understand is how people can be so angry towards bikes...
I do. It's a classic "Them and us" mentality.Any qualified psychologists on PH?
I think it's the same deep routed instincts that fuel racism and xenophobia.
Banana Boy said:
I think you're right, it's mostly frustration in general. Not particularly with cyclists per se but as drivers we're sold this dream/ideal that we don't just drive our cars, we 'experience' every journey! Every car advert, every daydream involves a positive driving experience. When we have to face the reality of traffic, incompetence, arrogance and generally having to share the road with people trying to achieve different goals then frustration sets in!
Cyclists are unfortunately an easy and obvious target when drivers vent their frustration, we're slower and more vulnerable and the poor education/terrible infrastructure means that we require special attention from the driver a lot of the time. Certain sections of the media don't help either...
Pretty much.Cyclists are unfortunately an easy and obvious target when drivers vent their frustration, we're slower and more vulnerable and the poor education/terrible infrastructure means that we require special attention from the driver a lot of the time. Certain sections of the media don't help either...
I also think another problem is that we tend to be very quick to label others errors and mistakes as deliberate and/or a sign of incompetance whereas we are a lot more forgiving of ourselves. When was the last time you cocked up and thought "I'm incompetant"
Devil2575 said:
Pretty much.
I also think another problem is that we tend to be very quick to label others errors and mistakes as deliberate and/or a sign of incompetance whereas we are a lot more forgiving of ourselves. When was the last time you cocked up and thought "I'm incompetant"
Every time I try and fix something mechanical... Perhaps that's just me.I also think another problem is that we tend to be very quick to label others errors and mistakes as deliberate and/or a sign of incompetance whereas we are a lot more forgiving of ourselves. When was the last time you cocked up and thought "I'm incompetant"
SteveSteveson said:
Devil2575 said:
Pretty much.
I also think another problem is that we tend to be very quick to label others errors and mistakes as deliberate and/or a sign of incompetance whereas we are a lot more forgiving of ourselves. When was the last time you cocked up and thought "I'm incompetant"
Every time I try and fix something mechanical... Perhaps that's just me.I also think another problem is that we tend to be very quick to label others errors and mistakes as deliberate and/or a sign of incompetance whereas we are a lot more forgiving of ourselves. When was the last time you cocked up and thought "I'm incompetant"
Robertj21a said:
I've no idea about modern-day lights on bikes but there are some very bright front lights on them in recent times, some pulsating. They're certainly much better than nothing, but do seem excessively bright when it's a dark country road. Not sure there's an easy answer to that one.
Believe me your car lights are much brighter to the cyclist than the other way around - you don't find a cyclist remonstrating with a car driver because of this, so be glad you can see the cyclist, bright or not.Gassing Station | Pedal Powered | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff