How to move bats out of the loft?

How to move bats out of the loft?

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_Rich_

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966 posts

172 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Had the rat catcher in the other day thinking rats in the loft but he see's evidence of bat poo, so we think we have bats in the loft (old house hard to see beyond chimneys etc). Now the little buggers are noisy during the night and waking me up from ones beauty sleep.

I believe they're a protected species but is there a friendly way to move them on, the way they scratch around up there i swear they'll come through the ceiling (i have garlic and a cross on the bedside table in anticipation for this)

Genuinely though is there a way to move bats on without causing harm?

SS2.

14,462 posts

238 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Yes, they're protected (and endangered).

Might be worth a call to the Bat Conservation Trust to confirm how best to proceed.

blueg33

35,856 posts

224 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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IIRC you can't move them, you certainly cant disturb them. They have to go on their own accord, unlikely at this time of year.

As advised above, speak to an expert.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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^That.

Had the same issue many years ago.

Called the relevant organisation and she proceeded to sit outside and count how many went in and out and said thanks very much, you cant remove them but they should be gone soon.


Freds

947 posts

137 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Call Dogersea Bats home .......

Woody3

748 posts

204 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Best to call the Bat Conservation Trust or a local ecology consultancy for advice.

Its illegal to disturb/destroy a roost, although you could possibly perform a legal exclusion it would require someone with a bat licence, and providing a replacement roost/mitigation through bat boxes etc.

outnumbered

4,084 posts

234 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Just out of interest, does anyone ever actually get done for disturbing bats ?

For all they are supposed to be endangered, they seem pretty common everywhere I've lived.

Boosted LS1

21,185 posts

260 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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outnumbered said:
Just out of interest, does anyone ever actually get done for disturbing bats ?

For all they are supposed to be endangered, they seem pretty common everywhere I've lived.
Do you live in a cave or belfry? On a serious note they need our protection. ;-) I'd love them in my attic.

Astacus

3,382 posts

234 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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lovely to see them of a summer evening swooping round the trees in my back garden. No idea where they live though

Equus

16,881 posts

101 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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At risk of stating the bleedin obvious, they're more soundly asleep than you are at this time of year (and in the summer are out hunting when you're in bed).

It's therefore reasonably unlikely that what's scratching around keeping you awake are bats. More likely to be rats, mice or squirrels (the latter only partially hibernate).


sparkythecat

7,902 posts

255 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Equus said:
At risk of stating the bleedin obvious, they're more soundly asleep than you are at this time of year (and in the summer are out hunting when you're trying to get you're in bed).

It's therefore reasonably unlikely that what's scratching around keeping you awake are bats. More likely to be rats, mice or squirrels (the latter only partially hibernate).
I was just going to say exactly the same thing.

Little Lofty

3,288 posts

151 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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Just watch episode 3 of the Grand Tour for tips on how to get bats out of your loft smile

Vaud

50,458 posts

155 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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Woody3 said:
it would require someone with a bat licence
Batman?

037

1,317 posts

147 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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Do not call the bat people.
Wait till summer then remove the nest / block up opening, or just leave them.

arnie12

165 posts

192 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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My in laws had real repercussions after speaking to the "batman" their planned conversion never happened and if I'm correct they have to inform potential purchasers when selling too.

Robertj21a

16,477 posts

105 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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I'd just leave them alone, if indeed there are any bats up there. As already mentioned, the noises are far more likely to be mice/rats.

Equus

16,881 posts

101 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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037 said:
Do not call the bat people.
Wait till summer then remove the nest / block up opening, or just leave them.
roflSpot the bat expert (not)!


Woody3

748 posts

204 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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Yes people do get "done", some species might be fairly numerous but they are vulnerable to habitat loss, from people such as yourself wanting to move them on. As others have said it is winter and they are hibernating so any current noises won't be bats. Even in summer I would doubt it is bats that you can hear, because of their roosting patterns/behaviour. Most people are unaware they have bats in their loft unless it is vast numbers, in which case any disturbance/roost destruction would cost you dearly...

If you are wanting to do a loft conversion, then fair enough you would need to move them on, with a licence in place.

If you did fancy breaking the law (which I would not recommend!) by knowingly blocking up entrance holes probably best doing it in winter, when they've left for hibernation sites rather than blocking them in to die during summer, as someone suggested.

My partner is bat person/ecologist hence my boring bat knowledge wink

SAB888

3,243 posts

207 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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Equus said:
037 said:
Do not call the bat people.
Wait till summer then remove the nest / block up opening, or just leave them.
roflSpot the bat expert (not)!
I'm still waiting to see my first bat nest, smile It's also an offence to block up any opening that bats use, and they can squeeze through small holes. The potential fine for each offence is £5,000. If more than one bat is involved, the fine is £5,000 per bat. In England and Wales an offender can also be imprisoned for six months.

Equus

16,881 posts

101 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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SAB888 said:
I'm still waiting to see my first bat nest, smile
Me too, though I've got a very nice hive of hedgehogs in my cellar. wink