Another what Road bike 2500-3500

Another what Road bike 2500-3500

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Dizeee

18,356 posts

207 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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outnumbered said:

I was in there today and successfully bought a chain and had a test ride of a saddle without being pressured into anything... I doubt they'd have been trying to sell you a bike if you hadn't suggested in some way you might be interested in buying a bike.
Yes, I must have imagined the whole experience.

Gruffy

7,212 posts

260 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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TwistingMyMelon said:
smn159 said:
Well given that you're in Reading anyway you should invest £75 in a new bike consultation at The Bike Whisperer in Newbury.

This will give you your answer.
Very good shout this
I'd also recommend this. Scherrit (The Bike Whisperer) is a talented man and you'll leave being able to spend your money with confidence, knowing you've got the best bike for you.

Daveyraveygravey

2,027 posts

185 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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BoRED S2upid said:
Or being overtaken on a Sunday morning ride.
I love my Propel and I'm no pro wannabe. I also don't care if I get overtaken (now and then...)
Maybe you should all try one?

Rich_W

12,548 posts

213 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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mcelliott said:
moonigan said:
Rich_W said:
Are a sprinter in the pro peleton or do you just want to look like one? Can't see why anyone would buy any of the above without meeting that criteria.
Of course people are free to spend their money as they wish, but imagine the shame of being spat out the back in your local wobbly wheelers sportive on that propel thing.
Last sportive I did was a hundred miler. (well 166K bizarrely) Top third of finishers.

So not too bad. Should be alright biggrin



Gruffy

7,212 posts

260 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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moonigan said:
Are a sprinter in the pro peleton or do you just want to look like one? Can't see why anyone would buy any of the above without meeting that criteria.
I'm neither of those but I bought an Aeroad two years ago and would do the same again if I had to replace it. I just like going fast and I'm quite happy if the bike looks fast too. I also love sports cars even though I'm not a racing driver.

moonigan

2,144 posts

242 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Rich_W said:
Last sportive I did was a hundred miler. (well 166K bizarrely) Top third of finishers.

So not too bad. Should be alright biggrin
Well done you should start racing see how you get on then.

Gruffy said:
I'm neither of those but I bought an Aeroad two years ago and would do the same again if I had to replace it. I just like going fast and I'm quite happy if the bike looks fast too. I also love sports cars even though I'm not a racing driver.
Worst comparison ever. Would you drive a Radical to the shops? Do you think an aero road bike is faster down an alpine descent than say Ultimate CF SLX? I haven't ridden either but I spent some time on a Venge and yes its quicker over a distance (under 2 secs over a 1 mile circuit) which is superb if you are Peter Sagan. However compared to my Tarmac the handling of the Venge was too sharp and edgy which over time would become an annoyance and I'd hate to do any kind of fast descent on one. Add to that the uncompromising position and you have the worst kind of all round bike ever.

Edited by moonigan on Tuesday 28th February 06:27


Edited by moonigan on Tuesday 28th February 06:40

Dizeee

18,356 posts

207 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Lol. Gruff would and probably already has driven a Radical to the shops. A red one if I recall correctly.

I love the Aeroad and that will be my next purchase next year possibly 2018.

Gruffy

7,212 posts

260 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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moonigan said:
Gruffy said:
I'm neither of those but I bought an Aeroad two years ago and would do the same again if I had to replace it. I just like going fast and I'm quite happy if the bike looks fast too. I also love sports cars even though I'm not a racing driver.
Worst comparison ever. Would you drive a Radical to the shops? Do you think an aero road bike is faster down an alpine descent than say Ultimate CF SLX? I haven't ridden either but I spent some time on a Venge and yes its quicker over a distance (under 2 secs over a 1 mile circuit) which is superb if you are Peter Sagan. However compared to my Tarmac the handling of the Venge was too sharp and edgy which over time would become an annoyance and I'd hate to do any kind of fast descent on one. Add to that the uncompromising position and you have the worst kind of all round bike ever.
If we're being picky I'd argue a Radical would be more like Wiggins' Hour Record bike but, regardless, that's an unfortunate scenario to have picked. I have driven a Radical to the shops. I was using one during one November-December period while my Elise was having an engine replacement. I nipped to the supermarket for a bit of shopping and had to drive through the Friday night cruise crowd on my way through the car park. Popped out a few minutes later and put the bags in the passenger seat and then drove back through them. Many LOLs.

Anyway, the important point is that there's a wide spectrum between 'Pro sprinter' and 'driving to the shops' and aero bikes are appropriate for some of that spectrum. Quicker down an alpine descent? You bet it is. The faster you're riding the bigger the difference. I'm fit, flexible and the sort of 'chopper' that enjoys chasing KOMs and fast centuries. For me it's the perfect bike. I wouldn't recommend it for everybody (I recommended The Bike Whisperer above rather than any particular bike) but I disagree with your idea that it's only suitable for pros. We're a broad church.

moonigan

2,144 posts

242 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Gruffy said:
If we're being picky I'd argue a Radical would be more like Wiggins' Hour Record bike but, regardless, that's an unfortunate scenario to have picked. I have driven a Radical to the shops. I was using one during one November-December period while my Elise was having an engine replacement. I nipped to the supermarket for a bit of shopping and had to drive through the Friday night cruise crowd on my way through the car park. Popped out a few minutes later and put the bags in the passenger seat and then drove back through them. Many LOLs.

Anyway, the important point is that there's a wide spectrum between 'Pro sprinter' and 'driving to the shops' and aero bikes are appropriate for some of that spectrum. Quicker down an alpine descent? You bet it is. The faster you're riding the bigger the difference. I'm fit, flexible and the sort of 'chopper' that enjoys chasing KOMs and fast centuries. For me it's the perfect bike. I wouldn't recommend it for everybody (I recommended The Bike Whisperer above rather than any particular bike) but I disagree with your idea that it's only suitable for pros. We're a broad church.
Ha. Fair play, if you go supermarket shopping in a Radical then I doth my cap. OK an Aero bike is good for you but you are probably in a small minority and for most people they probably are not. Interested in the argument about it being quicker down an alpine descent. If that's the case then why don't the pro's ride aero/sprinter bikes on The Tour or any of the other grand tours when there is so much time that can be gained or lost on the descents.

Gruffy

7,212 posts

260 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Aero bikes are all over the pro peloton. The GC guys and pure climbers are usually on lighter 'climbing' bikes rather than aero bikes but that's because at that level every single gram can make a difference. It's also worth remembering, when looking at the GC riders' bikes, that there's much more uphill in the grand tours than downhill.

From a personal point of view, the aero bike difference is noticeable above 35-40kph. The sensation is that it's easier to maintain faster speeds once you're up there. At 70kph+ it's very noticeable.

Edited by Gruffy on Tuesday 28th February 10:46

mcelliott

8,678 posts

182 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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On a typical alpine decent ie sections of straight and twistys a normal road bike would keep with the aero no probs.

neil-935ql

Original Poster:

1,085 posts

107 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Thanks for all your help , I pick up my new bike later today , trek emonda , can't wait to try it out

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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neil-935ql said:
Thanks for all your help , I pick up my new bike later today , trek emonda , can't wait to try it out
Boom! For once, a PistonHeads "What 'x' thread" delivers!

Having sung the Émonda's praises on the thread, I'm very interested in which model and colour you've ended up with. I genuinely hope that you are very happy with it. I've not regretted my choice once in the nearly two years, and over 6,600 miles I've had it. Although I regretted one or two things I put the poor bike through wink

Pictures when you're ready, please!



Collection Day




Byway bashing in the middle of nowhere (aka: what happens when you trust Strava to create a 'road bike route')



What happens when you work a road bike TOO hard on a "fast gravel" segment in search of a KOM! (It's not the byway above, neither. It was far more smooth and benign than that one.)



Which resulted in this. It bent back OK though, and whilst not entirely 'true' it's usable until it needs new rims/wheels through wear anyway... rolleyes

neil-935ql

Original Poster:

1,085 posts

107 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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yellowjack said:
Boom! For once, a PistonHeads "What 'x' thread" delivers!

Having sung the Émonda's praises on the thread, I'm very interested in which model and colour you've ended up with. I genuinely hope that you are very happy with it. I've not regretted my choice once in the nearly two years, and over 6,600 miles I've had it. Although I regretted one or two things I put the poor bike through wink

Pictures when you're ready, please!



Collection Day




Byway bashing in the middle of nowhere (aka: what happens when you trust Strava to create a 'road bike route')



What happens when you work a road bike TOO hard on a "fast gravel" segment in search of a KOM! (It's not the byway above, neither. It was far more smooth and benign than that one.)



Which resulted in this. It bent back OK though, and whilst not entirely 'true' it's usable until it needs new rims/wheels through wear anyway... rolleyes
I know I have gone for it with the trek, the bike looks amazing , and there I was heart set on a canyon , will post picks later tonight .

TheFungle

4,076 posts

207 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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If you like Evans then have a look at the BMC Roadmachine, it sits between their Race and Endurance frames and based on an entertaining few days in Tenerife; I'd be more than happy with one.

If I had your budget, as others have said, I would be looking for something a little bit different rather then just the same old, same old.

Have you considered going down the custom steel route? Or indeed non custom if you look at Enigma, Ritchey etc.

smn159

12,722 posts

218 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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TheFungle said:
If you like Evans then have a look at the BMC Roadmachine, it sits between their Race and Endurance frames and based on an entertaining few days in Tenerife; I'd be more than happy with one.

If I had your budget, as others have said, I would be looking for something a little bit different rather then just the same old, same old.

Have you considered going down the custom steel route? Or indeed non custom if you look at Enigma, Ritchey etc.
+1 for the BMC - I had one in Tenerife recently as well and it must have been good to haul me up to the top of Teide!

The OP has gone for the Emonda though which I'm sure is just as good smile

neil-935ql

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1,085 posts

107 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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well the new bike is back home now and it's amazing ! Love it , thanks again to all who helped me out , can't wait to ride it

neil-935ql

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1,085 posts

107 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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is that any better ?

outnumbered

4,092 posts

235 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Enjoy riding it!

(Although I have to say I'm not a fan of the mismatched saddle/tape seatpost/stem combo.)

neil-935ql

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1,085 posts

107 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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outnumbered said:
Enjoy riding it!

(Although I have to say I'm not a fan of the mismatched saddle/tape seatpost/stem combo.)
I agree I have black saddle and stem ready to go .