Enve wheels -is there a fault in my plan?

[d8mok]

I've wanted some m60 enve wheels on Chris kings for a while now for my bronson with 142x12 axle.


If I buy this wheel

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/enve-gen...


And then this

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/enve-gen...

And then have the front one put on a Chris king hub at about £250 plus labour. Is there a fault in my plan that I'm missing?

[gazza285]

If that's what you want, then yes it will work.

[smifffymoto]

Will you gain anything other than new a new set of sparkly wheels and a wallett emptied of a pile of cash?

[gazza285]

smifffymoto said:

Will you gain anything other than new a new set of sparkly wheels and a wallett emptied of a pile of cash?

Possibly a fear of riding anything to challenging for fear of scratching them. I know how pissed off I get when I scratch my rims, and they were on offer at £40 each...

[MDMA .]

d8mok said:

Is there a fault in my plan that I'm missing?

apart from paying 835.00 for a rim, no.

[P-Jay]

No, as long as everything is the same spoke number you'll be fine. I know ENVE use special and expensive nipples, but I assume the spokes are standard? They may not be the same size.

Given the rims are usually £1000 each on their own it's sort of a, and I can hardly bring myself to say this, a bargain.

Assume you've thought all this through? I know ENVE wheels are THE status symbol in MTBing at the moment, but it's an awful lot of money for a tiny advantage and one I've seen more than wasted by people too worried about them to put them in harms way.

[Cblair246]

d8mok said:

Is there a fault in my plan that I'm missing?

If you trash the front rim what will happen about the warranty since you've rebuilt it? It's a bit of a risk.

I'd look at the Chinese brands, lightbicycles, Yishun and Ace. I've had a set of both light bicycles and Ace and so far haven't died!

[d8mok]

From my understanding the warranty is on the rim not the wheel so can't see a issue myself. Seemed a good way of getting the wheels cheaper than the £2800 Rrp.

Considered some Chinese branded ones but not sure about it. Blue flow are local to me and are £700 ish.

My alternative is to wait and swap it for yeti and get the wheels included.

[Beyond Rational]

23mm internal seems like quite a narrow rim to be using on a bike like a Bronson.

[moonigan]

I think the general consensus is nowadays there is very little benefit of having carbon MTB rims. Some of the alloy rims that are made are as strong and no longer carry the huge weight penalty that they used to.

[vwsurfbum]

I've got Light Bicycle rims on my 29er with no issues, I have WTB C24 on my Enduro bike but my sponsor always goes on about ENVE wheels on his V10. Now he bought a set of the Light Bicycles wheels last year and says they are every bit as good as his ENVE's (Just an opinion)

anyway here's a good video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8fsKeQwplg

[Matt_N]

moonigan said:

I think the general consensus is nowadays there is very little benefit of having carbon MTB rims. Some of the alloy rims that are made are as strong and no longer carry the huge weight penalty that they used to.

Aluminium rims that are as strong (stiff) as a CF one will carry a weight penalty owing to the fact that CF trumps just about every other material on stiffness to weight.

CF is roughly 40% lighter than aluminium (per unit volume), and at the same time, roughly 10 times stronger (per unit volume), it's impossible to make alloy wheels as strong as CF ones without a weight penalty.

[gazza285]

Matt_N said:

Aluminium rims that are as strong (stiff) as a CF one will carry a weight penalty owing to the fact that CF trumps just about every other material on stiffness to weight.

CF is roughly 40% lighter than aluminium (per unit volume), and at the same time, roughly 10 times stronger (per unit volume), it's impossible to make alloy wheels as strong as CF ones without a weight penalty.

Those carbon rims must be fking strong then, because looking at the weights they are about the same as an alloy rim...

[Matt_N]

gazza285 said:

Those carbon rims must be fking strong then, because looking at the weights they are about the same as an alloy rim...

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.

[moonigan]

Matt_N said:

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.

110g difference between the Enve rims and the Easton Arc 27 (£75) I have on my Tallboy. In the context of a 12kg mountain bike you are not going to tell the difference between the two. Tyres probably play a bigger factor and unless you are doing full on DH then you are unlikely to bend them so the extra strength from the carbon rims is moot.

I have a set of stans crest that are probably lighter than the Enve's built up and are perfect for XC/Trail centre riding.

P

[vwsurfbum]

Its not all about weight, one of the main benefits is stiffness on the trails.

[gazza285]

Planet X are knocking out Pacenti CL25 rims at £35 each, I'll stick with them as they are well suited to what I use them for.

[-C-]

vwsurfbum said:

Its not all about weight, one of the main benefits is stiffness on the trails.

Which is a negative to many people.

Get a decent set of aluminium rims. Save yourself the money.

[d8mok]

-C- said:

Which is a negative to many people.

Get a decent set of aluminium rims. Save yourself the money.

Too late.....

Pics will follow once ive got them fitted.

[vwsurfbum]

Excellent stuff.

I have ordered a new set of 28 hole Nextie rims for me to use as a "practice" build as i had a pair of straight pull Sun Ringle hubs sitting there.