Electric bicycles - who buys them?
Discussion
trails said:
I bet that is hilarious, two wheel drive and a super stiff chassis 
It’s not wobbly at all; it feels just like riding a normal hybrid thingy, but put it this way, I’m not doing downhill trails and jumps on it. ‘Gravel’ it would cope fine with. But it’s more of an absolute urban weapon. Round town it’s pretty much the fastest thing there is. The narrow bars means you can filter through traffic easily if there isn’t a bike lane.
I love it, but also slightly fear and respect it.
Mrs BF wants back on a bike for local family rides, probably 25 - 30 miles at max. It's time for a little assistance, and handing over her Whyte to our daughter.
Because she's been used to something light and wieldy I'd like to keep the weight down as much as sensible with a smaller battery on something like a Momentum Voya. Would a 250Wh Battery be enough over generally pretty flat ground with the odd hill?
Because she's been used to something light and wieldy I'd like to keep the weight down as much as sensible with a smaller battery on something like a Momentum Voya. Would a 250Wh Battery be enough over generally pretty flat ground with the odd hill?
Just been on the first proper ride on the Creo this year, amazing bit of kit. On the road feels so much more ‘alive’ than my Boardman, no issues holding 20mph on the flat when on the road, but when the hills appear, an extra 200+watts is more than helpful. Really need to get some wider gravel tires though, as 28mm road tires really don’t inspire confidence on UK ‘gravel’ 
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.Bonefish Blues said:
Because she's been used to something light and wieldy I'd like to keep the weight down as much as sensible with a smaller battery on something like a Momentum Voya. Would a 250Wh Battery be enough over generally pretty flat ground with the odd hill?
If she has any reasonable fitness than 250Wh will be fine, I can get nearly 100 miles out of the Creo mainly because most of the time the bike is averaging over 15.5mph. However plenty of eBikes are clearly electric motor bikes, Strava started doing eBike segments, to hit 30mph+ average over a 7.5% gradient, that’s not cycling in sense of the word!!
Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 30th March 16:15
Barchettaman said:
It’s not wobbly at all; it feels just like riding a normal hybrid thingy, but put it this way, I’m not doing downhill trails and jumps on it.
‘Gravel’ it would cope fine with. But it’s more of an absolute urban weapon. Round town it’s pretty much the fastest thing there is. The narrow bars means you can filter through traffic easily if there isn’t a bike lane.
I love it, but also slightly fear and respect it.
It still sounds like a great way to get about ‘Gravel’ it would cope fine with. But it’s more of an absolute urban weapon. Round town it’s pretty much the fastest thing there is. The narrow bars means you can filter through traffic easily if there isn’t a bike lane.
I love it, but also slightly fear and respect it.
My Levo developed an issue whereby the motor didn’t disengage when pedalling backwards. It’s happened a few times in the past but has always freed itself almost immediately. This time it didn’t so I removed the motor and sent it to the E-bike Motor Centre. Turned out it was a bit crusty inside with a few wrecked bearings but nothing too bad otherwise.
It’s all been rebuilt and I opted for their Brose upgrade service which includes better bearings, seals and drive belt. The bike is getting on for seven years old now and hopefully this will keep it going for a good few years yet.
It’s all been rebuilt and I opted for their Brose upgrade service which includes better bearings, seals and drive belt. The bike is getting on for seven years old now and hopefully this will keep it going for a good few years yet.
benny.c said:
My Levo developed an issue whereby the motor didn’t disengage when pedalling backwards. It’s happened a few times in the past but has always freed itself almost immediately. This time it didn’t so I removed the motor and sent it to the E-bike Motor Centre. Turned out it was a bit crusty inside with a few wrecked bearings but nothing too bad otherwise.
It’s all been rebuilt and I opted for their Brose upgrade service which includes better bearings, seals and drive belt. The bike is getting on for seven years old now and hopefully this will keep it going for a good few years yet.
Pete Collard is very good, really knows his stuff. I wouldn't go anywhere else for motor repairs.It’s all been rebuilt and I opted for their Brose upgrade service which includes better bearings, seals and drive belt. The bike is getting on for seven years old now and hopefully this will keep it going for a good few years yet.
Edited by President Merkin on Saturday 4th May 09:09
President Merkin said:
benny.c said:
My Levo developed an issue whereby the motor didn’t disengage when pedalling backwards. It’s happened a few times in the past but has always freed itself almost immediately. This time it didn’t so I removed the motor and sent it to the E-bike Motor Centre. Turned out it was a bit crusty inside with a few wrecked bearings but nothing too bad otherwise.
It’s all been rebuilt and I opted for their Brose upgrade service which includes better bearings, seals and drive belt. The bike is getting on for seven years old now and hopefully this will keep it going for a good few years yet.
Pete Collard is very good, really knows his stuff. I wouldn't go anywhere else for motor repairs.It’s all been rebuilt and I opted for their Brose upgrade service which includes better bearings, seals and drive belt. The bike is getting on for seven years old now and hopefully this will keep it going for a good few years yet.
Edited by President Merkin on Saturday 4th May 09:09
There doesn’t seem to be a Lime bike (or rental bike) specific thread. Anyway round here (London) they’ve suddenly started promoting them in earnest again. Seems to occur in waves. My opinion is changeable regarding them - the way they litter the pavements with them f
king annoys me, it so entitled. So I want to burn them. But on the other hand i sometimes see a school kid using one, or someone going to work or the train station and I think ok well there is a reasonable argument for their use especially to people who don’t own a vehicles etc.
Examples of them being an annoyance:
Anyway where I am there is clearly a local who is of my first opinion, and is waging a war against them. Every single one they deposit in my area has the tyres slashed, front & rear. Lime bikes drop them off at various times, but always by the next day they are all slashed
I’m kind of curious how long Lime will persist in this particular locality. Here’s the slashed examples
The batches they drop off are often 5-7 bikes a time
king annoys me, it so entitled. So I want to burn them. But on the other hand i sometimes see a school kid using one, or someone going to work or the train station and I think ok well there is a reasonable argument for their use especially to people who don’t own a vehicles etc.Examples of them being an annoyance:
Anyway where I am there is clearly a local who is of my first opinion, and is waging a war against them. Every single one they deposit in my area has the tyres slashed, front & rear. Lime bikes drop them off at various times, but always by the next day they are all slashed
I’m kind of curious how long Lime will persist in this particular locality. Here’s the slashed examples
The batches they drop off are often 5-7 bikes a time
CoolHands said:
There doesn’t seem to be a Lime bike (or rental bike) specific thread. Anyway round here (London) they’ve suddenly started promoting them in earnest again. Seems to occur in waves. My opinion is changeable regarding them - the way they litter the pavements with them fking annoys me, it so entitled. So I want to burn them. But on the other hand i sometimes see a school kid using one, or someone going to work or the train station and I think ok well there is a reasonable argument for their use especially to people who don’t own a vehicles etc.
Examples of them being an annoyance:
I know they're a right PITA for someking annoys me, it so entitled. So I want to burn them. But on the other hand i sometimes see a school kid using one, or someone going to work or the train station and I think ok well there is a reasonable argument for their use especially to people who don’t own a vehicles etc.Examples of them being an annoyance:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68943...
Sorry to reenable a 'debate' from a few weeks ago - but the whole 'limiter' argument, versus the reality of what you are riding:
I took my old Cube Hybrid Pro or whatever frankenstein bike out today.
500W battery, running now on the Gravel tyres, not the MTB tyres original set up.
We rode across the moors (Yorkshire) to Danby and back, 56 miles, 5,000ft elevation / climbing. I used 3 of 5 battery bars.
The bike is a revelation and easy to ride in and out of the motor - mostly trucking along with other gravel bike riders at 18-20 mph.
A chip or increased limiter is 100% not required.
Bikes are not 'dangerous' or st above the limit.
They simply ride as a non assisted bike would with tractor tyres that EmTBs come with. My bike would of struggled for sure to do todays ride in original spec, but reasonable fitness and the The Tyres make all the difference.
I would recommend to anyone.
So much so, my Mrs has two sets of wheels for her Cube hybrid too, - a set of MTB' tyres and wheels for the hills, a set of gravels for the touring. Best money spent so far. Transform the bike in to a mile muncher.
I would believe I can get 100miles out of my 500W battery on normal riding.
I took my old Cube Hybrid Pro or whatever frankenstein bike out today.
500W battery, running now on the Gravel tyres, not the MTB tyres original set up.
We rode across the moors (Yorkshire) to Danby and back, 56 miles, 5,000ft elevation / climbing. I used 3 of 5 battery bars.
The bike is a revelation and easy to ride in and out of the motor - mostly trucking along with other gravel bike riders at 18-20 mph.
A chip or increased limiter is 100% not required.
Bikes are not 'dangerous' or s
t above the limit. They simply ride as a non assisted bike would with tractor tyres that EmTBs come with. My bike would of struggled for sure to do todays ride in original spec, but reasonable fitness and the The Tyres make all the difference.
I would recommend to anyone.
So much so, my Mrs has two sets of wheels for her Cube hybrid too, - a set of MTB' tyres and wheels for the hills, a set of gravels for the touring. Best money spent so far. Transform the bike in to a mile muncher.
I would believe I can get 100miles out of my 500W battery on normal riding.
PushedDover said:
Sorry to reenable a 'debate' from a few weeks ago - but the whole 'limiter' argument, versus the reality of what you are riding:
I took my old Cube Hybrid Pro or whatever frankenstein bike out today.
500W battery, running now on the Gravel tyres, not the MTB tyres original set up.
We rode across the moors (Yorkshire) to Danby and back, 56 miles, 5,000ft elevation / climbing. I used 3 of 5 battery bars.
The bike is a revelation and easy to ride in and out of the motor - mostly trucking along with other gravel bike riders at 18-20 mph.
A chip or increased limiter is 100% not required.
Bikes are not 'dangerous' or st above the limit.
They simply ride as a non assisted bike would with tractor tyres that EmTBs come with. My bike would of struggled for sure to do todays ride in original spec, but reasonable fitness and the The Tyres make all the difference.
I would recommend to anyone.
So much so, my Mrs has two sets of wheels for her Cube hybrid too, - a set of MTB' tyres and wheels for the hills, a set of gravels for the touring. Best money spent so far. Transform the bike in to a mile muncher.
I would believe I can get 100miles out of my 500W battery on normal riding.
I'm not sure anyone disagrees with you that you feel that the type of riding that you does not require derestriction...glad it's working out for you I took my old Cube Hybrid Pro or whatever frankenstein bike out today.
500W battery, running now on the Gravel tyres, not the MTB tyres original set up.
We rode across the moors (Yorkshire) to Danby and back, 56 miles, 5,000ft elevation / climbing. I used 3 of 5 battery bars.
The bike is a revelation and easy to ride in and out of the motor - mostly trucking along with other gravel bike riders at 18-20 mph.
A chip or increased limiter is 100% not required.
Bikes are not 'dangerous' or s
t above the limit. They simply ride as a non assisted bike would with tractor tyres that EmTBs come with. My bike would of struggled for sure to do todays ride in original spec, but reasonable fitness and the The Tyres make all the difference.
I would recommend to anyone.
So much so, my Mrs has two sets of wheels for her Cube hybrid too, - a set of MTB' tyres and wheels for the hills, a set of gravels for the touring. Best money spent so far. Transform the bike in to a mile muncher.
I would believe I can get 100miles out of my 500W battery on normal riding.
CoolHands said:
There doesn’t seem to be a Lime bike (or rental bike) specific thread. Anyway round here (London) they’ve suddenly started promoting them in earnest again. Seems to occur in waves. My opinion is changeable regarding them - the way they litter the pavements with them fking annoys me, it so entitled. So I want to burn them. But on the other hand i sometimes see a school kid using one, or someone going to work or the train station and I think ok well there is a reasonable argument for their use especially to people who don’t own a vehicles etc.
Examples of them being an annoyance:
Anyway where I am there is clearly a local who is of my first opinion, and is waging a war against them. Every single one they deposit in my area has the tyres slashed, front & rear. Lime bikes drop them off at various times, but always by the next day they are all slashed
I’m kind of curious how long Lime will persist in this particular locality. Here’s the slashed examples
The batches they drop off are often 5-7 bikes a time
Would imagine quite a few of the 'school kids' riding them have hacked their ride king annoys me, it so entitled. So I want to burn them. But on the other hand i sometimes see a school kid using one, or someone going to work or the train station and I think ok well there is a reasonable argument for their use especially to people who don’t own a vehicles etc.Examples of them being an annoyance:
Anyway where I am there is clearly a local who is of my first opinion, and is waging a war against them. Every single one they deposit in my area has the tyres slashed, front & rear. Lime bikes drop them off at various times, but always by the next day they are all slashed
I’m kind of curious how long Lime will persist in this particular locality. Here’s the slashed examples
The batches they drop off are often 5-7 bikes a time
PushedDover said:
Sorry to reenable a 'debate' from a few weeks ago - but the whole 'limiter' argument, versus the reality of what you are riding:
I took my old Cube Hybrid Pro or whatever frankenstein bike out today.
500W battery, running now on the Gravel tyres, not the MTB tyres original set up.
We rode across the moors (Yorkshire) to Danby and back, 56 miles, 5,000ft elevation / climbing. I used 3 of 5 battery bars.
The bike is a revelation and easy to ride in and out of the motor - mostly trucking along with other gravel bike riders at 18-20 mph.
A chip or increased limiter is 100% not required.
Bikes are not 'dangerous' or st above the limit.
They simply ride as a non assisted bike would with tractor tyres that EmTBs come with. My bike would of struggled for sure to do todays ride in original spec, but reasonable fitness and the The Tyres make all the difference.
I would recommend to anyone.
So much so, my Mrs has two sets of wheels for her Cube hybrid too, - a set of MTB' tyres and wheels for the hills, a set of gravels for the touring. Best money spent so far. Transform the bike in to a mile muncher.
I would believe I can get 100miles out of my 500W battery on normal riding.
Except,the truth of the matter is most ridden in cities such as London are ridden dangerously,at best or for criminal purposes,phone snatching at worst,so yes unrestricted bikes are dangerousI took my old Cube Hybrid Pro or whatever frankenstein bike out today.
500W battery, running now on the Gravel tyres, not the MTB tyres original set up.
We rode across the moors (Yorkshire) to Danby and back, 56 miles, 5,000ft elevation / climbing. I used 3 of 5 battery bars.
The bike is a revelation and easy to ride in and out of the motor - mostly trucking along with other gravel bike riders at 18-20 mph.
A chip or increased limiter is 100% not required.
Bikes are not 'dangerous' or s
t above the limit. They simply ride as a non assisted bike would with tractor tyres that EmTBs come with. My bike would of struggled for sure to do todays ride in original spec, but reasonable fitness and the The Tyres make all the difference.
I would recommend to anyone.
So much so, my Mrs has two sets of wheels for her Cube hybrid too, - a set of MTB' tyres and wheels for the hills, a set of gravels for the touring. Best money spent so far. Transform the bike in to a mile muncher.
I would believe I can get 100miles out of my 500W battery on normal riding.
President Merkin said:
That's a confused response. PD's position is derestriction is unnecessary, you're arguing derestricted bikes are dangerous, so you're both in more or less the same place except you aren't distinguishing between bikes & riders, which you should.
It's basically a load of bks isn't it, unless the poster has access to the most amazing data sets 
trails said:
access to the most amazing data sets
as in my Strava? Its not linked to my motor so wouldnt help.I just feel that many whinge that above the limiter the bike is hard work or terrible - hence need to raise the limiter.
Observation suggests it is nothing to do with a disengaged / unclutched motor, but the bikes weigh the same as a small moon on the whole and the tyres shod on the eMTBS (i.e. the bulk of e bikes) are the cause of the bike lethargy above limiter.
Decent tyres and the bikes hoon along happily above and below the limiter.
If you don't need the knobbles on the tyres for your day to day riding, I recommend you get alternatives. Or as above a set of wheels for the mud, and a set of wheels / tyres for the road and gravel and use to suit.
Transformative.
Well obviously if you stick a set of 60psi slicks on your bike it's going to roll like a beast but I'm not commuting on my 170mm travel e-bike, I'm tramming down loose, rocky and muddy trails and I need grip.
You seem to be suggesting a compromise as a solution to a compromise which is just bizarre....
You seem to be suggesting a compromise as a solution to a compromise which is just bizarre....
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