I think I'm done with road...
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Solocle said:
Siao said:
Well, apart from joking, I don't think it is an unreasonable comment. You just have to see the potholes around here recently, it's like the council has given up. I wouldn't (and haven't) take my road bike out with it's 23mm tyres and carbon frame. I'd knock some fillings out for sure... Even my gravel feels bad at times, it feels like I have to go full MTB soon!
But my commuter bike is a road bike. 35/38 tyres.I guess you could call it a gravel bike, although my requirements for it were that it be pretty bombproof, but optimised for tarmac.
35/38 is fine for this I guess. But if London is anywhere near as bad as it is down here, I'd be worried to get my bike out. My gravel is 40 and even that seems not to be enough at times, especially when I am going fast.
thepritch said:
Completely puzzled by this. One of those responses that just has me scratching my head.
If you look at the products on any big manufacturers website and click on city/commuter bikes you will not see any road bikes.There is a reason for this - they are simply the wrong tool for the job.
272BHP said:
thepritch said:
Completely puzzled by this. One of those responses that just has me scratching my head.
If you look at the products on any big manufacturers website and click on city/commuter bikes you will not see any road bikes.There is a reason for this - they are simply the wrong tool for the job.
stargazer30 said:
272BHP said:
thepritch said:
Completely puzzled by this. One of those responses that just has me scratching my head.
If you look at the products on any big manufacturers website and click on city/commuter bikes you will not see any road bikes.There is a reason for this - they are simply the wrong tool for the job.
trails said:
stargazer30 said:
272BHP said:
thepritch said:
Completely puzzled by this. One of those responses that just has me scratching my head.
If you look at the products on any big manufacturers website and click on city/commuter bikes you will not see any road bikes.There is a reason for this - they are simply the wrong tool for the job.
Siao said:
trails said:
stargazer30 said:
272BHP said:
thepritch said:
Completely puzzled by this. One of those responses that just has me scratching my head.
If you look at the products on any big manufacturers website and click on city/commuter bikes you will not see any road bikes.There is a reason for this - they are simply the wrong tool for the job.
trails said:
Siao said:
trails said:
stargazer30 said:
272BHP said:
thepritch said:
Completely puzzled by this. One of those responses that just has me scratching my head.
If you look at the products on any big manufacturers website and click on city/commuter bikes you will not see any road bikes.There is a reason for this - they are simply the wrong tool for the job.
I'm thinking of all the bashed wingmirrors!
272BHP said:
thepritch said:
Completely puzzled by this. One of those responses that just has me scratching my head.
If you look at the products on any big manufacturers website and click on city/commuter bikes you will not see any road bikes.There is a reason for this - they are simply the wrong tool for the job.
said:
Super-commuter, meets touring, meets gravel bike the Day One is our triple threat!
https://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/genesis-day-one-vargn21230272BHP said:
If you look at the products on any big manufacturers website and click on city/commuter bikes you will not see any road bikes.
There is a reason for this - they are simply the wrong tool for the job.
The right tool for the job will simply depend on the journey being made, and everyone will be making a different journey. Obviously we don't have the luxury of swapping bikes to suit every single surface and situation, so you have to pick the best for the majority of the journey. For a 20 mile b-road cycle with a city at the end, a road bike is the best overall choice, as it's designed for riding efficiently on the road, and, generally, the faster you can go, the easier it is to keep up with traffic / accelerate to speed. There is a reason for this - they are simply the wrong tool for the job.
For short trips in a city on segregated cycling infrastructure, something like a city/commuter bike is perfect, or for 3 miles up a steep hill through a forest, a mountain bike might be great.
In much the same way, if you look up any big manufacturer's list of urban cars, you won't see a BMW X7 or Range Rover, which are simply the wrong tool for a regular short city journey, but you'll see loads of them in the city, and they may be the best compromise for a long motorway drive that ends in a city.
272BHP said:
If you look at the products on any big manufacturers website and click on city/commuter bikes you will not see any road bikes.
There is a reason for this - they are simply the wrong tool for the job.
What a load of bThere is a reason for this - they are simply the wrong tool for the job.
ks! "The products on any manufacturers website are split into categories" ...so they can sell more kinds of different bikes. A road bike is just as good for commuting on as a so called city/commuter bike. Not everyone wants mudguards and a basket on their bike for a start, and as many have pointed out a road bike is quicker than any other kind of bike.Random_Person said:
Its funny because having been commuting into London since 2012 and doing 60k miles as logged on Strava to date, I find that the road bike is the perfect tool for the job, and I have no issues with visibility either.
The only problem I see with road bike visibility in cities is when you return to find they been nicked 
Yup, like you I’d not consider anything else to ride into a city on. Agile, quick, very manouverable, and if you can do a track track stand you don’t need to worry about clip less. (Hmm, that last bit has attracted a few negative comments over the years)
thepritch said:
The only problem I see with road bike visibility in cities is when you return to find they been nicked
Yup, like you I’d not consider anything else to ride into a city on. Agile, quick, very manouverable, and if you can do a track track stand you don’t need to worry about clip less. (Hmm, that last bit has attracted a few negative comments over the years)
No doubt holier than though Nick Frog is cringingYup, like you I’d not consider anything else to ride into a city on. Agile, quick, very manouverable, and if you can do a track track stand you don’t need to worry about clip less. (Hmm, that last bit has attracted a few negative comments over the years)
TGCOTF-dewey said:
Castrol for a knave said:
I used to commute between Skipton and Leeds on my TT bike. I started to evolve eyes in the top of my head, like some deep sea creature after a while.....
Should have used belay glasses...
I think they were an American thing, where belayers fastidiously watch the leader, for fear of dropping them and being sued.
In the UK, belaying is mostly sitting at the bottom, taking the piss, occasionally telling the leader his last piece of kit has just dropped out, and eating Seabrooks, while drinking Irn Bru and holding a rope.
Castrol for a knave said:
TGCOTF-dewey said:
Castrol for a knave said:
I used to commute between Skipton and Leeds on my TT bike. I started to evolve eyes in the top of my head, like some deep sea creature after a while.....
Should have used belay glasses...I think they were an American thing, where belayers fastidiously watch the leader, for fear of dropping them and being sued.
In the UK, belaying is mostly sitting at the bottom, taking the piss, occasionally telling the leader his last piece of kit has just dropped out, and eating Seabrooks, while drinking Irn Bru and holding a rope.
I just checked... You can still buy them
Siao said:
Random_Person said:
Yesterday rode directly through central, as I do regularly, zipping in and out of traffic, and not hanging about to Regents, where I do 3 or 4 fast laps, then return. Whitehall /Leicester Sq / Regents St / Parliament Sq. This was at midday. I was the only cyclist in full gear, £3k aero road bike, tight lycra, the works.
I saw an abundance of other cyclists - but they were all deliveroo, or tourists. These weren't cyclists, they were people on bikes meandering about going to stuff.
Guess who were the ones weaving all over the place and going through lights, and who was the one making progress but doing so without causing inconvenience. Its not an issue if you know how to ride. Even in regents park, only a handful of other proper cyclists present.
I'm not sure who is a "proper cyclist". Everyone on a bike is a cyclist, just different than you.I saw an abundance of other cyclists - but they were all deliveroo, or tourists. These weren't cyclists, they were people on bikes meandering about going to stuff.
Guess who were the ones weaving all over the place and going through lights, and who was the one making progress but doing so without causing inconvenience. Its not an issue if you know how to ride. Even in regents park, only a handful of other proper cyclists present.
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