All mountain tyres - recommendations please!
Discussion
Hi,
I'm in the market for some new tyres.
I want a 2.3 on the front and a 2.1 on the back and I want them weigh under 1000g's each.
I am currently thinking of a Panaracer Fire XC folding 2.1 on the rear and a Maxxis Minion 2.3 on the front.
Will the Maxxis feel too heavy?
I've had continental vertical pros in the past and wasn't overly impressed with them, although they are light and have good volume.
I ride all over the woods but do have a dh bias having done a few races and love the extra confidence you get from running high volume tyres, I just don't want to be so heavy that it kills me on the climbs!
If you've got any help or recommendations on the subject I'm all ears.
Cheers!
I'm in the market for some new tyres.
I want a 2.3 on the front and a 2.1 on the back and I want them weigh under 1000g's each.
I am currently thinking of a Panaracer Fire XC folding 2.1 on the rear and a Maxxis Minion 2.3 on the front.
Will the Maxxis feel too heavy?
I've had continental vertical pros in the past and wasn't overly impressed with them, although they are light and have good volume.
I ride all over the woods but do have a dh bias having done a few races and love the extra confidence you get from running high volume tyres, I just don't want to be so heavy that it kills me on the climbs!
If you've got any help or recommendations on the subject I'm all ears.
Cheers!
carter711 said:
Hi,
I'm in the market for some new tyres.
I want a 2.3 on the front and a 2.1 on the back and I want them weigh under 1000g's each.
I am currently thinking of a Panaracer Fire XC folding 2.1 on the rear and a Maxxis Minion 2.3 on the front.
Will the Maxxis feel too heavy?
I've had continental vertical pros in the past and wasn't overly impressed with them, although they are light and have good volume.
I ride all over the woods but do have a dh bias having done a few races and love the extra confidence you get from running high volume tyres, I just don't want to be so heavy that it kills me on the climbs!
If you've got any help or recommendations on the subject I'm all ears.
Cheers!
In my experience the Maxxis do tend to be quite heavy, I ride with Panaracers front and rear at the moment, to be honest though, can the weight difference between a 2.1 and 2.3 on the front really be that bad? I'm in the market for some new tyres.
I want a 2.3 on the front and a 2.1 on the back and I want them weigh under 1000g's each.
I am currently thinking of a Panaracer Fire XC folding 2.1 on the rear and a Maxxis Minion 2.3 on the front.
Will the Maxxis feel too heavy?
I've had continental vertical pros in the past and wasn't overly impressed with them, although they are light and have good volume.
I ride all over the woods but do have a dh bias having done a few races and love the extra confidence you get from running high volume tyres, I just don't want to be so heavy that it kills me on the climbs!
If you've got any help or recommendations on the subject I'm all ears.
Cheers!
I asked a similar question and ended up with some panaracers which i love... (panaracer rampage 2.1 PR on the back and 2.3 SC on the front as the PR is meant to be a slightly harder wearing compound).. now I "rampage" all over the mountain... or at least my tyres do... in name...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Some of the Maxxis tyres are really not too shabby on the weight front actually.
My Personal favourite is the AdVantage, bit more up to date than the High rollers. 2.25 is plenty big enough (the 2.4's are waaay to big to do miles on) and note that the sizing is different between old generation maxxis and new generation Maxxis.
if you look on www.justridingalong.com they have some really good info on all the maxxis range including all the weights, as measured by them, not 'claimed weights'.
My Personal favourite is the AdVantage, bit more up to date than the High rollers. 2.25 is plenty big enough (the 2.4's are waaay to big to do miles on) and note that the sizing is different between old generation maxxis and new generation Maxxis.
if you look on www.justridingalong.com they have some really good info on all the maxxis range including all the weights, as measured by them, not 'claimed weights'.
I've been doing some more research and have found that wtb moto raptors 2.24 are about 600g and get some good reviews. That's almost as light as fire xc's and on paper at least they are bigger.
Has anyone used them before?
Also the wtb mutano raptor race 2.4 is under 600g but the tread doesn't look too confidence inspiring.
The holy rollers look like a good choice at the mo, however, on the weight weenies site they are listed at over 1kg per tyre?!
Has anyone used them before?
Also the wtb mutano raptor race 2.4 is under 600g but the tread doesn't look too confidence inspiring.
The holy rollers look like a good choice at the mo, however, on the weight weenies site they are listed at over 1kg per tyre?!
P-Jay said:
Running a 2.3 Highroller Supertackie front (dual ply) front and 2.25 ADvantage rear, works wonders at the trail centres year-round, but my bike is set-up for descending rather than climbing.
Similar to me...On my "all-mountain" bike I run:
f: Maxxis High Roller 2.35" single-ply 60a
r: Maxxis ADvantage 2.25"
Great combo for trail centres and not-too-wet regular trails, but the ADvantage isn't great in mud or contouring across wet grass (as I know from experience).
Thanks alot for the advice everyone! It's been a real help.
I've ummed and arred over many tyres in the past few days, the holy roller was a serious contender as was the minnion, but the ADvantage is the one I've decided to go with as it looks like it rolls really well, it is light, I can have a 2.4 on the front at as the weight penalty is minimal compared to some of the others, and to top it off the pricing is just right I'd say.
Thanks again to everyone that contributed, once I've ridden them a few times i'll re visit the thread and post my findings.
I've ummed and arred over many tyres in the past few days, the holy roller was a serious contender as was the minnion, but the ADvantage is the one I've decided to go with as it looks like it rolls really well, it is light, I can have a 2.4 on the front at as the weight penalty is minimal compared to some of the others, and to top it off the pricing is just right I'd say.
Thanks again to everyone that contributed, once I've ridden them a few times i'll re visit the thread and post my findings.
Well, I've had the Advantages on my bike for a couple of months now but due to the crappy weather I've only been able to go on 3 rides.
The tyres grip exceptionly well, they roll well and are very light so acceleration/braking is very good.
They do have a major weakness though, and that is the sidewall. To keep the weight down Maxxis have shaved everylast gram from the sidewalls which makes them very thin and weak, so weak that after only the 3rd ride with them I discovered a tear in the sidewall
This has never happened to me before in 13 years of mountainbiking.
I'm not heavy on my bikes and have only been doing bridleway type rides since running these tyres so I'm disappointed. I've repaired the sidewall with a puncture repair patch on both sides of the tyre where the tear is, I hope it lasts as they are practically brand new!
So incase you are thinking of getting these tyres, I'd first consider getting a slightly heavier alternative with stronger sidewalls. Potentially throwing £25 down the drain isn't much fun!
The tyres grip exceptionly well, they roll well and are very light so acceleration/braking is very good.
They do have a major weakness though, and that is the sidewall. To keep the weight down Maxxis have shaved everylast gram from the sidewalls which makes them very thin and weak, so weak that after only the 3rd ride with them I discovered a tear in the sidewall
This has never happened to me before in 13 years of mountainbiking.
I'm not heavy on my bikes and have only been doing bridleway type rides since running these tyres so I'm disappointed. I've repaired the sidewall with a puncture repair patch on both sides of the tyre where the tear is, I hope it lasts as they are practically brand new!
So incase you are thinking of getting these tyres, I'd first consider getting a slightly heavier alternative with stronger sidewalls. Potentially throwing £25 down the drain isn't much fun!
Thats interesiting - which size and which carcass/version where they?
As I've been running them, sans tubes, for ages now, pinging off rocks in the peak district and all sorts, one of the main reasons I like them is they have taken abuse!?
Just goes to show, 'your mileage may vary' is always true!
As I've been running them, sans tubes, for ages now, pinging off rocks in the peak district and all sorts, one of the main reasons I like them is they have taken abuse!?
Just goes to show, 'your mileage may vary' is always true!
I've got a 2.4 on the front and a 2.25 on the rear, it's the rear one that's torn.
The repair I've done looks as ugly as sin but I'm hoping it'll mean I can use them over summer.
I think if the rear tears again I'll move the 2.4 to the back and get a minion on the front.
Edited to add it's the folding bead I have.
The repair I've done looks as ugly as sin but I'm hoping it'll mean I can use them over summer.
I think if the rear tears again I'll move the 2.4 to the back and get a minion on the front.
Edited to add it's the folding bead I have.
Edited by carter711 on Thursday 13th January 10:14
I'm running UST Nobby Nics front and rear and whilst they are quite soft compound and wear reasonably quickly (no skidding on tarmac allowed 
) they are a great all rounder. The UST's are expensive but there was a BOGOF deal for the normal Tyres recently on the on-one site. A word of warning though the UST ones are a b
h to get on a 5.1D Swiss rim. I've recently bought some Stans NO Tubes ZTR Flow Hoops though and they went on beautifully on these. So whilst they don't have the outright grip of a Minion up front as a fast rolling all rounder I've found them hard to beat.
) they are a great all rounder. The UST's are expensive but there was a BOGOF deal for the normal Tyres recently on the on-one site. A word of warning though the UST ones are a bh to get on a 5.1D Swiss rim. I've recently bought some Stans NO Tubes ZTR Flow Hoops though and they went on beautifully on these. So whilst they don't have the outright grip of a Minion up front as a fast rolling all rounder I've found them hard to beat. Gassing Station | Pedal Powered | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff