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pablo said:
yellowjack said:
All irrelevant. If the path is suitable for riding, just ride the damned thing. The Po-po don't have the manpower or resources to 'police' traffic properly on our major roads network, so how likely is it that you will be apprehended for illegally using a right-of-way?? The question of non right of way tracks is also simple. Trespass is a civil offence. Just like twuntish squatters, the only recourse open to a land-owner is to prosecute you through the courts. In order to be prosecuted, you must first give your name and address, or the land-owner must find it out. Trespassers may well be prosecuted, but it would be interesting to know how many, if any, have been in recent years. Providing that you do not commit any act that could be considered to be criminal damage, and you do not cause the owner of the land over which you pass any material or financial loss, you commit no criminal offence, and cannot, therefore, be arrested.
Power to the People, Wolfie
sorry but you are part of the problem. the more people who ride on footpaths simply cause grief for the rest of us who ride legally on bridlepaths, rupps and the like. Power to the People, Wolfie
just because you avoid the confrontation with the ramblers doesnt mean that everyone enjoys the same fate. its not about being caught by the landowner for trespass, its about ramblers purposely leaving things in the bridlepaths to damage tyres. dont give them any more justification for continuing with such activities by riding on footpaths... there are more than enough bridlepaths to not need to ride on footpaths.
If everyone on a bike played by the rules and rode responsibly we would have a much better reputation and more landowners would allow trail building on their land.
We all have to realise that the countryside, from a leisure perspective at least, is a constant compromise between ramblers, cyclists and horsey types. At the moment cyclists seem to have the worst reputation despite not sabotaging trails (as in Pablo's example) or destroying the ground / s
tting everywhere (the horses not their riders). This must be because some cyclists break the rules or ride irresponsibly.The three users above should unite against fat people eating crisps / cold pizza in Land Rovers in the name of greenlaning anyway....
AVeryNaughtyBoy said:
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The three users above should unite against fat people eating crisps / cold pizza in Land Rovers in the name of greenlaning anyway....
That comments makes you look a nob tbh. Especially on a motoring forumThe three users above should unite against fat people eating crisps / cold pizza in Land Rovers in the name of greenlaning anyway....
The countryside is plenty big enough for all recreational pursuits.
there's only 1% of PROW with motorised access anyway, there's about 22% if you include bridleways for you to ride your bike on, so don't be a
.Don't be surprised if once the vehicles are gone that the horsey types & ramblers try to get you kicked off the bridleways next especially since you're only on them as an easily repealed section of law
It just shows we have too many people crammed onto a tiny island with too much competition for the land without the tree-huggers wanting everyone off the land completely for regeneration.
Talking to a Kiwi mate over the weekend, if you want to go offroad in New Zealand whether it's on a horse/ bike/ 4x4/ moto-x you just go and set up camp wherever you want.
Here you have to find what trails you're allowed on and what you're not, if you want to stay over you have to book a campsite with a load of other peoples' screaming kids in a field. There's no wilderness left in the UK, or if there is you're not allowed on it.
Talking to a Kiwi mate over the weekend, if you want to go offroad in New Zealand whether it's on a horse/ bike/ 4x4/ moto-x you just go and set up camp wherever you want.
Here you have to find what trails you're allowed on and what you're not, if you want to stay over you have to book a campsite with a load of other peoples' screaming kids in a field. There's no wilderness left in the UK, or if there is you're not allowed on it.
davethebunny said:
AVeryNaughtyBoy said:
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The three users above should unite against fat people eating crisps / cold pizza in Land Rovers in the name of greenlaning anyway....;)
That comments makes you look a nob tbh. Especially on a motoring forumThe three users above should unite against fat people eating crisps / cold pizza in Land Rovers in the name of greenlaning anyway....
;) The countryside is plenty big enough for all recreational pursuits.
there's only 1% of PROW with motorised access anyway, there's about 22% if you include bridleways for you to ride your bike on, so don't be a
.Don't be surprised if once the vehicles are gone that the horsey types & ramblers try to get you kicked off the bridleways next especially since you're only on them as an easily repealed section of law
Should I have made the wink bigger?
Nice balancing of intelligent statistics with the c-bomb btw......
Yo, Yo!!! Back again. Just to set the record straight, in my original post I stated the following: "If the path is suitable for riding, just ride the damned thing." If you read that as me suggesting you ride UNSUITABLE footpaths, fair enough. If a FOOTPATH is SUITABLE for CYCLING on, by which I mean physically suitable, with sufficient space for shared use with walkers, then IMHO it should be marked as suitable and legally available for use by cyclists. FWIW I'm pretty ancient, hence the Woolfie Smith reference, and wouldn't dream of uttering "Po-Po" out loud. Now who was it that wanted the WHOOOOOOOOOSH. Can't anybody be deliberately argumentative on an internet forum anymore? Does the Devil no longer need an Advocate? 
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