What bike thread...

[okgo]

You've said numerous times you see the bikes as to mainstream, and that you know enough about bikes to know it's cheaper to build them (its not) yet can't change a wheel lol!

What we are saying that you'll get something the same for your money, so why change?

[Dizeee]

okgo said:

You've said numerous times you see the bikes as to mainstream, and that you know enough about bikes to know it's cheaper to build them (its not) yet can't change a wheel lol!

What we are saying that you'll get something the same for your money, so why change?

I am not purporting to be an expert, but buying parts online and building the bike yourself has to be cheaper, as your cutting out the retailer and labour costs. I have not got the know how like I have said, and I can change a tyre, just not in a matter of seconds.

The reason for change is I want to ride something different, have a little change. I don't expect to get a whole load more for my money.

[okgo]

The reason you often cannot better the prices they get us because the groupset. They (specialised, trek, etc) buy groupsets from shimano in huge numbers and get much better prices.

Well what do you want to change? Because it could well be that you're changing for a bike that is worse to ride?

What is wrong with the hardrocks riding?

[Beyond Rational]

I think it's more "want new bike" rather than "want the best bike for my money".

[Dizeee]

Beyond Rational said:

I think it's more "want new bike" rather than "want the best bike for my money".

The Hardrock just feels tired now, I am bored of constantly having to have the wheels trued because they buckle slightly over time, and why spend over £100 an a service when that could be £100 towards a new bike...

[donfisher]

Are your feelings towards bike shops anything to do with having to pay them to service your bike?

Being able to and actually fixing one's own bike is not for everybody, I can appreciate that but if it was me I'd be reading up on how to do it myself and then having a go at it rather than buying a slighly newer version of a bike I already have.

And then I’d be getting all magpie on upgrades for the current bike and fitting them myself.

Changing some components can make a bike feel completely different.

[okgo]

Dizeee said:

The Hardrock just feels tired now, I am bored of constantly having to have the wheels trued because they buckle slightly over time, and why spend over £100 an a service when that could be £100 towards a new bike...

Ridiculous.

The bike isn't tired, its only one 1000 miles? The wheels buckle because your either riding it too hard, or they're not being repaired properly. Guess what, the wheels on a new £500 bike are going to do exactly the same.

And new bikes need serviding too, so you'll be spending money on sevicing even on a new one.

Your logic is utterly backward.

Edited by okgo on Monday 14th March 10:48

[Gooby]

Dizeee said:

That Cube Attention looks awesome as does the Orange G2!

I had a G2 (it was stolen) I uprated it with some forks that I had around and it was a brilliant bike. It is an Orange which makes it ride superbly. Its frame is produced in Taiwan which leaves more money for decent components.

[anonymous-user]

Dizeee said:

The Hardrock just feels tired now, I am bored of constantly having to have the wheels trued because they buckle slightly over time, and why spend over £100 an a service when that could be £100 towards a new bike...

the truth is the wheels on your hardrock would retail for abut £50 per pair if they were sold as seperates wheras for £100 you can get a pretty tidy set of shimano factory wheels or for £150, a pretty good pair that would be OEM on any bike to £1500

to notice a difference from the hardrock, you will really need to spend about £800 to £1K. there doesnt seem much point i nchanging like for like just because you are bored of it. buy the hardrock some new wheels and save £400 towards a new bike.

[Dizeee]

But as said above it is more that I just want a new bike more than anything else. I plan to do an awful lot of riding this year and a new bike will be the refreshing, exciting and rewarding.

So far I like the look of this: http://www.evanscycles.com/products/trek/ticket-20...

[shalmaneser]

I work at Evans and would be embarrassed to sell that bike. The Tickets are a joke, made for people who are impressed by overlarge tubing.

Buy a Genesis, or that bike from Paul's Cycles linked to above.

Genesis (slighly over budget). Only 8 speed but Shimano brakes, hubs, etc. Also has all important Rockshox fork.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/kona/blast-201...

Kona, looks to be very good value. 9 speed with shimano bits, rockshox fork, actualy looks excellent value now that I read the spec.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/kona/blast-201...

[okgo]

Dizeee said:

But as said above it is more that I just want a new bike more than anything else. I plan to do an awful lot of riding this year and a new bike will be the refreshing, exciting and rewarding.

So far I like the look of this: http://www.evanscycles.com/products/trek/ticket-20...

Well I can't personally get my head around that. But good luck with it. I'd imagine you'll end up doing no extra riding at all and will waste £500.

[Dizeee]

okgo said:

Well I can't personally get my head around that. But good luck with it. I'd imagine you'll end up doing no extra riding at all and will waste £500.

Your really really weird.

I fancy a new bike and am prepared to spend money to get one. I know how I ride, how I like to ride and I know I like to change my bikes fairly frequently. Thats my choice based on my personality - get over it!

[Dizeee]

shalmaneser said:

I work at Evans and would be embarrassed to sell that bike. The Tickets are a joke, made for people who are impressed by overlarge tubing.

Buy a Genesis, or that bike from Paul's Cycles linked to above.

Genesis (slighly over budget). Only 8 speed but Shimano brakes, hubs, etc. Also has all important Rockshox fork.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/kona/blast-201...

Kona, looks to be very good value. 9 speed with shimano bits, rockshox fork, actualy looks excellent value now that I read the spec.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/kona/blast-201...

Like the look of that Kona I must admit. Couldnt see a link to the genesis though.

[Roman]

IMO The Diamondback is well worth buying as it is a couple of levels higher in terms of spec than your current bike, the only thing significantly better on the Trek than your current bike is the brakes yet it would cost twice as much!

£600 for a hardtail with Acera??

There are plenty of much better options between £5-600 if you have a look on the www.paulscycles.co.uk
website and Evans will usually price match like for like if you find one advertised elsewhere at the same size.

Edited by Roman on Wednesday 16th March 19:29

[Al Wyn]

Dizeee imho the best thing you can do is get yourself down to a decent shop and test ride a few bikes. I vividly recall mail ordering from a magazine (pre interweb) a Kona that looked great, was a great spec, price and had a good write up in a magazine but i absolutely hated from the first time i rode it...angles all wrong needed the next frame size up didnt like the gear set up etc. I ended up selling it quickly at a substantial loss and buying a Marin from a local bike shop who were happy to let me take out a few different bikes before deciding on my purchase.

[hadenough!]

Dizeee said:

Your really really weird.

I fancy a new bike and am prepared to spend money to get one. I know how I ride, how I like to ride and I know I like to change my bikes fairly frequently. Thats my choice based on my personality - get over it!

I know what he means, what your doing is the equivalent of buying a Ford focus , doing 12000 miles in a year, then buying a brand new Astra the next year. Seems odd, but like you say, your choice.

Me, I'd either spend the £500 on some nice bit and pieces and swap them on to my existing bike, save up for a bit and really upgrade, or buy a differnt type of bike to complement your existing one.

Each to their own though.

[shalmaneser]

Dizeee said:

Like the look of that Kona I must admit. Couldnt see a link to the genesis though.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/genesis/core-10-2011-mountain-bike-ec024739?query=genesis

would go for the kona over the genesis though.

[Al Wyn]

Cheap option? What about getting your current bike repainted? get it painted in a 2011 or a one off colour? just a thought.

[waughie]

I suggest getting over to Halfords and having a look at the carreras and Boardmans, possibly tthe voodoos as well if you can get a discounted one.

spec for money they often can't be beaten and are usually well rated by the bike magazines!

For example:
Boardman
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

Voodoo
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

carrera banshee
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

Carrera Fury
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

Another Boardman
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

Gt Aggressor
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

All are good bikes with a good kit list!