traction control revisited
Discussion
and as you say there is only two ecu right now so it cant be that hard
yes if its on the car you need to be able to PROVE its not in use with a quick look
when i used it in testing with the blower car when i was in competition the Davis technology's box was unplugged and in the trailer so there was no dispute,
thats not possible with the ecu if you leave it in the trailer you wont get far,
so something quick simple that would satisfy other RACERS wether their turbo, blower, or n2o,
this will all be nicey nicey until someone runs stupid quick on a track no one else can get down, trust me iv been there and seen it first hand, the s
t stiring the rumors the accusations and from that day on everyone will be watching everyone else so the tech guys need to be able to check and give the right answer
yes if its on the car you need to be able to PROVE its not in use with a quick look
when i used it in testing with the blower car when i was in competition the Davis technology's box was unplugged and in the trailer so there was no dispute,
thats not possible with the ecu if you leave it in the trailer you wont get far,
so something quick simple that would satisfy other RACERS wether their turbo, blower, or n2o,
this will all be nicey nicey until someone runs stupid quick on a track no one else can get down, trust me iv been there and seen it first hand, the s
t stiring the rumors the accusations and from that day on everyone will be watching everyone else so the tech guys need to be able to check and give the right answerEdited by Turbobird1 on Tuesday 9th October 20:58
how come your selling that car?? Jim who built it told me that was a pro mod spec chassis and as he builds the quickest fastest turbo pro mods in the world id have thought it was a good starting point...what axle does it have? i thought its a mw 11"
is it turnkey only or will you break it?
is it turnkey only or will you break it?
rules say that an approved ecu must not monitor drive shaft or wheel speed and must be closed loop, so for a first and easy step how about removing any trans/drive-shaft/axle sensors that are not solely connected to a logging system ?
then the scrutineer could have a peek under the car ect,
if using tc for testing or other classes it takes minutes to put your sensor ring back on
the rules actually say that the wiring/sensors should be easily identifiable to the scrutineer,
so dosent that rule put the onus on us to help them identifying what were doing???
its in the rule book so id say its mandatory that we do that..
then the scrutineer could have a peek under the car ect,
if using tc for testing or other classes it takes minutes to put your sensor ring back on
the rules actually say that the wiring/sensors should be easily identifiable to the scrutineer,
so dosent that rule put the onus on us to help them identifying what were doing???
its in the rule book so id say its mandatory that we do that..
Edited by Turbobird1 on Wednesday 10th October 08:59
Tet said:
I don't want to put words into Graham's mouth, but I suspect what he's getting at is this: As soon as the turbo cars start consistently running the numbers in Europe (which let's face it, they will in the not too distant future), then you can guarantee that certain of the blower teams will suspect foul play, probably quite vocally. Ideally, you'd want to be in a position where the tech guys can turn around at that point and say "no, we've checked, they're not using traction control". So even though we don't believe that anyone is using traction control right now, we need to think about it now so that the tech guys have a chance to get up to speed for when the st hits the fan. Which it will. Otherwise, you can be sure that the blower teams will push for a spec ECU whether you like it or not. Better to fix them problem yourselves now than to have a fix imposed on you later, one that you may not like.
Jesus h Christ at last ...... t hits the fan. Which it will. Otherwise, you can be sure that the blower teams will push for a spec ECU whether you like it or not. Better to fix them problem yourselves now than to have a fix imposed on you later, one that you may not like.isnt that exactly what iv been saying.....
i know my spellings s
t and my grammar leaves something to be desired but was it that unintelligiblelucky777devil said:
I haven't been on here for ages. I don't have an opinion on TC really , but as can be seen , it is available on any car not just ECU / Turbo cars
the difference is if you wanted TC you would have to buy a stand alone item from one of the vendors ie Davis technologies and wire it in to your ignition system so with its added sensors and wiring there is always a chance it will be found with an ecu its there built in from the start nothing added so nothing to find so no way to prove if its in uselegal in NHRA and legal in FIA is two different things
for fia it is legal for next year but as we speak its not legal.... even though cirtain teams used them
But if you go and buy the additional plug in box, your intent is to use traction control
you physicaly have to add something to your box.... its no different than buying a box from Davis Technologys is it....
for fia it is legal for next year but as we speak its not legal.... even though cirtain teams used them
But if you go and buy the additional plug in box, your intent is to use traction control
you physicaly have to add something to your box.... its no different than buying a box from Davis Technologys is it....
Edited by Turbobird1 on Thursday 18th October 15:13
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