Robin Read and nitromethane
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Simple fact is most people can't afford to race in the pros, and while you don't need mega bucks to race heads up in say outlaw anglia, it gets bloody boring watching cars disappear into the distance! Bracket racing gives the average driver on an average wage a chance to race against faster cars on a level ish playing field. Not everyone can afford to, or has the desire to race in pro classes, so classes like super pro are a great home for people like that.
Don't get me wrong, I have a huge amount of admiration and respect for people who push the boundaries of both their cars and their wallet, for me though I just go racing to have fun with some mates without trying to give my accountant a heart attack!
Don't get me wrong, I have a huge amount of admiration and respect for people who push the boundaries of both their cars and their wallet, for me though I just go racing to have fun with some mates without trying to give my accountant a heart attack!
ribaric said:
I want to take issue with the view that Martyn Jone's car is a TMD. It isn't. As far as I know, Syd and his crew have no intention in runnning TMD and never have. However, it is a 5 second blown methanol dragster and provides all the spectacle of TMD cars - but running SuPro. Robin Read will provide a spectacle with his "junior fueller" to match 98% of the British pro cars - whilst running in SuPro.
You're free to take issue with whatever you like Paul but this Super Pro lovefest is making me feel a tad bilious now. Ask yourself why the 5 second blown alcohol dragster is in Super Pro (the class with a 6.0 cutoff) and not TMD and you'll probably find the answers to all that's wrong with the state of drag racing in this country. Excuse my bluntness but no, it isn't a spectacle, and I don't believe that anybody outside of Super Pro ET finds Super Pro ET a spectacle. I raised the subject on Facebook earlier today and given some of the messages I received I'd say that maybe it isn't as "spectacular" or well received as those in the inner sanctum might like to believe.
Whatever happened to ambition, passion and striving for performance, wanting to outrun the guy (or girl) in the other lane? Laying all your s
t on the line, leaning the sucker out and going for it? They've been replaced by plinky plink "ready steady go" Christmas trees and shoe whitener. I'm out, of the discussion and the sport, it's a dead end. Enjoy your "spectacle".37chevy said:
Bracket racing gives the average driver on an average wage a chance to race against faster cars on a level ish playing field. Not everyone can afford to, or has the desire to race in pro classes, so classes like super pro are a great home for people like that.
Depends on your definition of racing I guess. And the discussion wasn't about racing in the pro classes, it was about who's going to replace the current crop and where the knowledge, desire and experience are coming from?? Dial in bracket racing has neutered them...but let's cast that aside ehEdited by Rat_Fink_67 on Tuesday 28th October 22:39
Rat_Fink_67 said:
Depends on your definition of racing I guess. And the discussion wasn't about racing in the pro classes, it was about who's going to replace the current crop and where the knowledge, desire and experience are coming from?? Dial in bracket racing has neutered them...but let's cast that aside eh
Of course heads up racing is the purest form but bracket racing is just as valid.....personally I'm not into super gas/comp because of throttle stops. I much prefer bracket racing, but who can argue with one of the biggest drag racing classes in the world! To me drag racing is all about variety, that's the racing types as well as the cars. Bracket racing has served the sport well in one respect because it means people with less money can compete against faster cars without breaking the bank...not everyone is interested in going sub 6 secondsEdited by Rat_Fink_67 on Tuesday 28th October 22:39
My point about the pros is on the same line as yours (or at least I meant it that way), I too don't know who's going to replace the current crop.....like I said it's not necessarily down to just experience etc but also the size of your wallet and not wanting to bankrupt yourself along the way. In terms of where the next crop is going to come from, who knows! There are some good young drivers coming through, whether they have the experience with the mechanical side of things I can't comment on things I don't know, but let's hope that some of them out there are willing to push the boundaries in the future....I have no idea what the solution is, maybe a bit of nitro thrown into super pro will help people get a foot on the nitro ladder and be able to develop their skills into going faster, who knows
I like super pro et personally, it's one of my favourite classes, however you are correct, having a heads up class is always best for pushing the boundaries, just look at street eliminator and one of the classes I used to love was SUMO, great cars and heads up, outlaw anglia is great too.
Edited by 37chevy on Tuesday 28th October 23:27
I think there is plenty of knowledge about the place, within the crews of current pro racers. The trouble is these crew members cant necessarily take the step to racer because of the huge cost involved, for what is effectively a hobby.
Edited by Burndown on Wednesday 29th October 11:18
Funny you should say that, Andrew Carpenter buzzed in on a conversation on FB last night. They dont plan to - dont want to make lots of changes to the car as its a piece of history and will run in the Supercharged Outlaws at none MSA meetings. I think there may be an issue for Read to beat anyway, but im sure he has that in hand, in that there are no SFI blower bags / restraints for blowers smaller than a 6/71 from what im told.
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