Competition Eliminator FWD indexes (and SP/C question)
Discussion
Hello DragHeads,
I have read on eurodragster.com recently that the MSA is "testing" allowance of FWD cars in CE.
Who has more info on that, where can I find the indexes ?
I guess the safety regs apply to the ET and speed the car in question has entered or run,
the faster the index, the more safety stuff you need ?
The flywheel shield is one of the big issues, depending on model, type & mods
it may be very difficult to go 360° around the bellhousing.
In Germany, a driver got his scrutineering process complete by adding a "80% around" shield
and then reinforcing the front bulkhead in the "20%" area where a flywheel (or it´s shrapnel)
could cause personal damage.
Driveshaft loops are a bit more difficult than with RWD but doable.
What do PHers think of including FWD in CE, could that bring more from the "tuning" scene
into the race pits ?
Does the UK also have a "Sport Compact" class where everything but V8s are permitted,
IE 4cyl, 5cyl, 6cyl, rotaries and divided into FWD, RWD and AWD ?
I have read on eurodragster.com recently that the MSA is "testing" allowance of FWD cars in CE.
Who has more info on that, where can I find the indexes ?
I guess the safety regs apply to the ET and speed the car in question has entered or run,
the faster the index, the more safety stuff you need ?
The flywheel shield is one of the big issues, depending on model, type & mods
it may be very difficult to go 360° around the bellhousing.
In Germany, a driver got his scrutineering process complete by adding a "80% around" shield
and then reinforcing the front bulkhead in the "20%" area where a flywheel (or it´s shrapnel)
could cause personal damage.
Driveshaft loops are a bit more difficult than with RWD but doable.
What do PHers think of including FWD in CE, could that bring more from the "tuning" scene
into the race pits ?
Does the UK also have a "Sport Compact" class where everything but V8s are permitted,
IE 4cyl, 5cyl, 6cyl, rotaries and divided into FWD, RWD and AWD ?
I don't think there's been anything preventing FWD cars from entering Comp Eliminator up until now anyway. It's just that not they will have the option of racing to a FWD/A index rather than whatever other class they might have fallen into, in the same way that the SuMo cars could. I'm guessing this is to try and attract the Jap Series and FWD Series racers and the like into proper competition. What will the indices be? No idea, but I assume they'll look at the average performace levels of the cars they expect to be running and pick a suitably representative number.
The FWD Series runs under MSA rules, and they have class specific rules to which they need to adhere, plus the General Safety Regulations that affects all vehicles.
"Sports Compact" is a ridiculous class that makes no sense, and only really exists because of how backwards the American motor industry is. There was a version run in the UK a few years back, but I haven't heard anything about it recently, so I'm guessing it folded.
The FWD Series runs under MSA rules, and they have class specific rules to which they need to adhere, plus the General Safety Regulations that affects all vehicles.
"Sports Compact" is a ridiculous class that makes no sense, and only really exists because of how backwards the American motor industry is. There was a version run in the UK a few years back, but I haven't heard anything about it recently, so I'm guessing it folded.
I'm not sure that's much appetite among the FWD groups to slug it out with, for want of a better epithet, 'mainstream' racers. Bracket/index classes would be a difficult place for FWD cars due to the need to 'hook' and get consistent launches/RTs etc. I suspect CE is the only realistic place for RWD, 4WD and FWD fans to mix it up.
At the end of the day it is to bring more cars into comp elim, previously there was no index for a fwd car so they were at a disadvantage choosing an index that was closest to what they had
The majority of fwd cars that will look to enter will probably come from the FWD drag series, so they already have 8.5 tagged cages and a scattershield is already required.
They will have a good go but will still be no match for a 6 second car BUT racing is racing, it's an exciting prospect for the best FWD cars to race on the best surfaces available.
The majority of fwd cars that will look to enter will probably come from the FWD drag series, so they already have 8.5 tagged cages and a scattershield is already required.
They will have a good go but will still be no match for a 6 second car BUT racing is racing, it's an exciting prospect for the best FWD cars to race on the best surfaces available.
Hello Luke,
thanks for the info, do you know where I can find these FWD indexes
or do the FWD cars have to enter in the same weight break C/E categories as RWDs?
I am thinking -or better hoping- that there might be a similar interest in the german FWD Scene
but some of the really fast cars are driven by tuners that want fast ETs and are not really interested in quali & rounds.
thanks for the info, do you know where I can find these FWD indexes
or do the FWD cars have to enter in the same weight break C/E categories as RWDs?
I am thinking -or better hoping- that there might be a similar interest in the german FWD Scene
but some of the really fast cars are driven by tuners that want fast ETs and are not really interested in quali & rounds.
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