Torque converters in Pro Mod

Torque converters in Pro Mod

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ribaric

Original Poster:

262 posts

175 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Anyone care to relieve me of my ignorance? Time was that a converter car was strictly bracket material and all serious contenders had a clutch and multi-speed Lenco. What's changed? I saw David Vegter run 6.1 with a converter... wow!

SpencerTramm

76 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Most of the Pro Mods in the States are converter cars now, Bruno Bader has been the leader in running a converter in Europe for many seasons.

Rat_Fink_67

2,309 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Same as most things, technology has just moved on. The Lenco is still the transmission of choice barring the odd B&J or 'glide, it's just the bit in the bellhousing that's different. As with most things, once the number of racers using converters increases, so does the data, and the pace of R&D picks up too. Ultimately a clutch when set up perfectly is probably quicker, but that's very few and far between. Another bonus is that no clutch frees up bodies for other maintenance.

ribaric

Original Poster:

262 posts

175 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Thanks peeps. It does seem to me though that a clutch can be adjusted through a wide range whereas a converter can't. I guess you can have an army of slightly different converters though.
I also see a growing number of transbrakes in Pro Mod, is this just the turbo cars?

Rat_Fink_67

2,309 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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With modern bolt-together converters you can take them apart at the track and replace the stator to suit differing track conditions so they're not as restrictive as they used to be in days gone by. Transbrakes are a fixture of all the converter cars. Whether they run a Bruno, B&J Quick Drive or a Rossler, a transbrake is the only way to 'disengage' drive to enable the shift between forward and reverse, and also for the launch procedure. To keep things 'equal' on the tree, in Europe the transbrake has to be operated via a 'clutch' pedal. The argument being that it is quicker to release a button with your finger than it is to lift your foot up.

ribaric

Original Poster:

262 posts

175 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Thanks "67". I used a tranny brake in Super Pro ten years ago, we couldn't get reverse on a fitted glide without using it. I have to say, putting the transbrake switch on a foot pedal seems a bit ridiculous.

Turn7

23,608 posts

221 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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I have a question on these...

IIRC,Andy Frost had big oil temp issues when using his Brunodrive, how come none of the other cars appear to have ?

Turbo related rather than blower ?

Rat_Fink_67

2,309 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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It's relatively common with everyone who uses a Bruno, turbo or blown. It's a flow issue; the problem being that regardless of how big your cooler is, the Bruno itself causes a bit of a bottle neck in the system and the hot oil can't escape quickly enough.