Elvington, How can we help?
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How can we help ?
Well, I don´t know if this judge descision can be altered,
like by putting up a noise wall like at SC Raceway.
But I can tell you it is the same situation in germany too,
like in Hockenheim, where years ago, when you drove to the racetrack,
you went to the town , got through,
then drove through the woods to reach the racecourse.
Then people started to buy cheap land (cheaper because of the racetrack nearby),
and choose to erect their houses.
Now you have the town getting close to the track.
Then, apparently, they found out "hey, we have moved to Hockenheim,
and there seems to be a racetrack around here, noe that´s annoying!"
So they started to act upon the local councils and BINGO,
now it is down to 5 (FIVE!!!) "loud events" a YEAR on the motodrome.
And this does not only include the F1, Superbikes etc....,
but even live concerts like Robbie.
This is one of the reasons there is only 1 Dragster Race annually.
And sometimes I wonder when they start to complain about the Autobahn,
because there are 3 of these around.............
Hoping there is still a way to keep Elvington "alive",
Benni
Well, I don´t know if this judge descision can be altered,
like by putting up a noise wall like at SC Raceway.
But I can tell you it is the same situation in germany too,
like in Hockenheim, where years ago, when you drove to the racetrack,
you went to the town , got through,
then drove through the woods to reach the racecourse.
Then people started to buy cheap land (cheaper because of the racetrack nearby),
and choose to erect their houses.
Now you have the town getting close to the track.
Then, apparently, they found out "hey, we have moved to Hockenheim,
and there seems to be a racetrack around here, noe that´s annoying!"
So they started to act upon the local councils and BINGO,
now it is down to 5 (FIVE!!!) "loud events" a YEAR on the motodrome.
And this does not only include the F1, Superbikes etc....,
but even live concerts like Robbie.
This is one of the reasons there is only 1 Dragster Race annually.
And sometimes I wonder when they start to complain about the Autobahn,
because there are 3 of these around.............
Hoping there is still a way to keep Elvington "alive",
Benni
Isn't this typical of people today! Buy a house near a runway used for testing over the last 50 odd years and then complain about it. Always the same sort of people who complain too. I can't believe the courts give them the time of day let alone give them a result. Imagine the knock on this could have for people who live near any other track, say, Silverstone, Santa Pod etc
bigmouse said:
Isn't this typical of people today! Buy a house near a runway used for testing over the last 50 odd years and then complain about it. Always the same sort of people who complain too. I can't believe the courts give them the time of day let alone give them a result. Imagine the knock on this could have for people who live near any other track, say, Silverstone, Santa Pod etc
I seem to remember a similar thing happening regarding a kart track somewhere. "New" locals wanted it closed down but the track proved that it had been there for about 30 years and they won their case. I have a feeling it could have been Blackbushe but the memory fails me sometimes.
I hate the general public, these people are ruining alot of peoples hobbies(lifes) by this, why dont they get off there arse's and go and watch some real sport rather than rotting in front of the tele watching soaps and the biggest excitment in there life is if they have a 'large' instead of medium meal when they go to burger king. sad idiots with nothing better to do in there lives then complain.
Elvington Park Ltd has a poor if not useless web site/s but I did manage to get a response, so did send them an email similar to this (which I am sure we all agree on, if not sorry!) via their info link: -
My advice (for what its worth) would be to collect support from the hundreds of fans via other Motoring/sport web sites etc. Then armed with this support ask your barrister to use it to overturn this outrageous ruling with what ever power he can use. I am sure the European courts would sort it given all the info we all know about. You really must stress that the airfield and the racing was there long before the so called present residents. It just is not right for individuals to be able to do this just so they can have a better resale value of their houses near to you! One more thing, I would not obey any unfair rulings imposed on you by any co--t as this is a miscarriage of justice and you need to keep it going, not to settle it! Please do not give in ever, the future of our sports are in the hands of companies like yours. We are with you all the way, all you need do is just go out and ask for support!
Thank you and all the best. ENDS
If you want to look at Elvingtons sites: -
www.elvingtonairfield.co.uk/
(Bart comes on)
and
www.elvington.biz/news.htm
My advice (for what its worth) would be to collect support from the hundreds of fans via other Motoring/sport web sites etc. Then armed with this support ask your barrister to use it to overturn this outrageous ruling with what ever power he can use. I am sure the European courts would sort it given all the info we all know about. You really must stress that the airfield and the racing was there long before the so called present residents. It just is not right for individuals to be able to do this just so they can have a better resale value of their houses near to you! One more thing, I would not obey any unfair rulings imposed on you by any co--t as this is a miscarriage of justice and you need to keep it going, not to settle it! Please do not give in ever, the future of our sports are in the hands of companies like yours. We are with you all the way, all you need do is just go out and ask for support!
Thank you and all the best. ENDS
If you want to look at Elvingtons sites: -
www.elvingtonairfield.co.uk/
(Bart comes on)
and
www.elvington.biz/news.htm
take a look a bit deeper....A judge and a counciller live in the area that complained??? Castle combe had the same thing,a lord bought a house near the circuit,then realised there was a race track there???
seems if you have connections you can get anything stopped....... I'd say Elvington should be able to go to the court of human rights and get this decision overturned... shit,i just realised they have no chance.....they're british,living here,paying tax and getting on with life.....
seems if you have connections you can get anything stopped....... I'd say Elvington should be able to go to the court of human rights and get this decision overturned... shit,i just realised they have no chance.....they're british,living here,paying tax and getting on with life.....
I visited the air museum at Elvington last summer, and in amongst what is, to be fair, a very good museum, there is not a single mention of the fantastic post war history of the record runs there. Even just a small display case with pictures of Thrust2, Dennis Priddle, et al would have been some ackowledgement of the other history of the place. On the day I was there, the place was teeming with sales reps doing some sort of drive survive course, making collectively more noise than a jet car, never mind an F1. Says it all really.
Happy (!) memories of hitching to Elvington from York to watch the record weekend in I guess October 1980 or 1981. Rained most of the day, but do remember seeing Angus Mcphail's rear-engined skateboard thingy for the first time - wow and what a nutter came to mind at the same moment.
Anyone else go to these events ?
Anyone else go to these events ?
Angus McPhail ?
Was that the Ford-4 (?) engined "lay-down-head-first" Bike ?
And, on another thought :
If Elvington is closed,
is there any other runway/racetrack where land speed records can be run in the UK ?
If not, the current UK LSRs can and will not be broken ever again.
Which would be sad, I think, for your country has such a long motorsports history.
Just today I was traveling on the A5 Autobahn from Frankfurt to Darmstadt,
it has a 10-mile straight where in 1938 the Teams of Auto-Union and Mercedes were
duking it out, with drivers Carraciola and Rosemeyer, who reached 270 mph,
before he caught sidewind and crashed fatally.
(It took 60 years to break that record , sort of,
until Rico Anthes did 280 mph in his Top Fuel Dragster in 1998.)
Benni
Was that the Ford-4 (?) engined "lay-down-head-first" Bike ?
And, on another thought :
If Elvington is closed,
is there any other runway/racetrack where land speed records can be run in the UK ?
If not, the current UK LSRs can and will not be broken ever again.
Which would be sad, I think, for your country has such a long motorsports history.
Just today I was traveling on the A5 Autobahn from Frankfurt to Darmstadt,
it has a 10-mile straight where in 1938 the Teams of Auto-Union and Mercedes were
duking it out, with drivers Carraciola and Rosemeyer, who reached 270 mph,
before he caught sidewind and crashed fatally.
(It took 60 years to break that record , sort of,
until Rico Anthes did 280 mph in his Top Fuel Dragster in 1998.)
Benni
drags06 said:
Did Rico Anthes manage a 10 mile run? 
Well, when his throttle got stuck and the brake pedal broke on the HOCKENHEIM QUARTERMILE,
he had to go 4 times round the GP course, good drifting job in the Sachs-Kurve though.
Oh man, I really have to triple-check my postings here............
*sing* "Oh Lord, please don´t let me be misunderstood....."*sing*
Cheers, Benni
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