Springspeed Festival Roll Call
Discussion
Tet said:
Yep. Super Pro and Super Comp again for me.
Tet, I take it that there are no electonics on the car (throttle stop etc) which are not allowed in Super Pro. If there are, do you remove/install them between different class sessions?
Edited by NitroWars on Wednesday 2nd May 11:21
NitroWars said:
Tet said:
Yep. Super Pro and Super Comp again for me.
Tet, I take it that there are no electonics on the car (throttle stop etc) which are not allowed in Super Pro. If there are, do you remove/install them between different class sessions?
Edited by NitroWars on Wednesday 2nd May 11:21
There are a Handful of cars that I have seen in Super Pro with Electronics on them.
They can be disabled without being removed.
NitroWars said:
Tet said:
Yep. Super Pro and Super Comp again for me.
Tet, I take it that there are no electonics on the car (throttle stop etc) which are not allowed in Super Pro. If there are, do you remove/install them between different class sessions?
If I remember correctly, Tet races in Super Comp with a lift of the throttle
slinky said:
NitroWars said:
Tet said:
Yep. Super Pro and Super Comp again for me.
Tet, I take it that there are no electonics on the car (throttle stop etc) which are not allowed in Super Pro. If there are, do you remove/install them between different class sessions?
If I remember correctly, Tet races in Super Comp with a lift of the throttle
But it does have a throttle stop on it. This is seen as a war crime to some members of Super Pro...
Edited by flying toilet on Wednesday 2nd May 11:54
NitroWars said:
Tet, I take it that there are no electonics on the car (throttle stop etc) which are not allowed in Super Pro. If there are, do you remove/install them between different class sessions?
Yeah, it's a pain in the arse, but the throttle stop controller is on a quick release connector, and is attached to the dash with quick release fastenings, so that it can be easily swapped in and out between rounds. In the past, it used to be OK to just set the throttle stop controller to zero for the ET classes. But someone complained, so now we have to physically remove it from the car.
Actually, I fully support the ban on electronics in the ET classes, so I'm not overly bothered. Allowing them would completely ruin the ET classes IMHO. But it makes it a bit more work on the day for those of us running in a mix of classes.
slinky said:
If I remember correctly, Tet races in Super Comp with a lift of the throttle
Not entirely from choice, though :-) When your throttle stop is shorting out, disconnecting it entirely and picking a spot on the track to lift is the only option. Doing that, I still managed to qualify at #3, so I was quite pleased with that. It's really hard to win in eliminations like that, though, as the car in the other lane has such a huge speed advantage over you at the top end that you're unable to react to what they're doing. Hopefully I should have a working throttle stop in place for this weekend...
NitroWars said:
Personally I'd like to see the Super classes scrapped and the cars all go into ET brackets but before I am flamed, I do understand the full aspects of Super class racing and realise why people get enjoyment out of it.
If the ET classes ran on a pro tree, I might be tempted to agree with you. But that would handicap the faster car in eliminations, and there isn't really an easy way around that.
eurodragster.com said:
Eurodragster.com will be there, if we do our job right then even if you're not there you'll be there.
...and a great job you do of it too. From tuning in for the Big Bang coverage, my only criticisms would be:
- after the final qualifying round, it would be nice to list the whole class rather than just the top 5
- also, for classes witha bump spot, it'd be nice to see who's on the bump, and their time after each qualifier
- it would be nice to know who was paired with who, rather than just listing the winners in each round (the results coverage on nhra.com does a good job of this, no doubt with more manpower available than Eurodragster)
I'm guessing that the reason for not doing those is due to the extra workload it would mean, and they're not exactly essential. But if possible, they would be nice to have.
Tet said:
...and a great job you do of it too.
Thank you, I was not fishing for compliments.
Tet said:
criticisms
I'd call them requests for enhancements
I don't perceive any criticism. Tet said:
after the final qualifying round, it would be nice to list the whole class rather than just the top 5
At the end of a day or days doing qualifying mainly in my head in real time, typing up potentially three hundred ETs and speeds is the last thing I want to do thank you
In addition qualifying sometimes ends halfway through the day and they go into eliminations without a break. The time is just not there. Before anyone says "But you do it for the Pros", the answer is that there are less of them, and that one pair of Pros takes a lot longer to run than one pair of Sportsmen. Burnouts past the Tree, backing up etc all give me time to type up the ET/speed, do a sentence or two of commentary, and place them in qualifying order. I do struggle a bit with Pro Stock Bike and most pairs of Supertwins because they tend not to burn out over the line which robs me of valuable thinking and typing time.
There was one famous occasion at last season's European Finals when my laptop bluescreened in the middle of a Supertwin qualifying session and so I went to pen and paper and caught up in the middle of the following class. And people wonder why I have my own bed in Bedford General
An upgrade is coming to the SPR timing system which should in theory allow me to copy and paste the entire qualifying field for each class after each round.
Tet said:
for classes with a bump spot, it'd be nice to see who's on the bump, and their time after each qualifier
I don't have any enquiry access to any track's timing system from my seat but see the last paragraph above. So this would only be possible if there was a break after each class because it would involve me leaving my seat, going to the printer, getting the bump details, getting back to my seat and typing it up before the next class starts. SPR, SCR and Mantorp don't stop between classes. Basically I only get to leave my seat, including for a pee or to eat, if there's an oildown or accident and I'd rather go the day without a break.
Tet said:
it would be nice to know who was paired with who, rather than just listing the winners in each round (the results coverage on nhra.com does a good job of this, no doubt with more manpower available than Eurodragster)
The results coverage on nhra.com is done by people with a hard link to the timing system so it's done for them. They don't know they're born
I do our results manually, i.e. I sit in front of a timing console repeater and type up what it says. Quite a lot of the time I don't even get to look out of the window, or I'll hear a gasp and look up and see a car sideways (I'm looking at you, Mr Webster). To type up even the winners I have the time between one pair going through the finish line and the Chief Starter pressing the button to run the Tree for the next pair. Which believe me is not very long. Tet said:
I'm guessing that the reason for not doing those is due to the extra workload it would mean
I guess you've worked that out from the above. There's only me and I'm only little
Edited by eurodragster.com on Wednesday 2nd May 18:35
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