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SkyJawa said:
Which indeed causes the 2nd turbo to come in when it shouldn't.....
You mean at 4k rpm, exactly when it should come in?Personally having owned both, I'd say the supra was more predictable when pushing hard and beyond the limit(drifting etc). It gives you plenty of warning and can usually easily be brought back into line. You would be amazed at the cornering speed the supra can hold before it lets go. Although I wouldn't recommend doing it on a public road.
As for S2000 values, there are a few good cars coming up for under 4k now although most are Cat C/D at this price range, there are still straight cars to be had for nearer 3k if you have the patience and are willing to travel.
krunchkin said:
Anyone think of another car that gives better bang for buck in terms of purchase cost/running cost/ driving buzz ? Genuinely interested...
TVR Chimaera.I'm tossing the idea of an S2000 or a TVR Chimaera around. I've been finding out everything about both cars over the last month. Both sound like great cars. I just need to test drive them both and make a decision.
CHIMPDREAMER said:
krunchkin said:
Anyone think of another car that gives better bang for buck in terms of purchase cost/running cost/ driving buzz ? Genuinely interested...
TVR Chimaera.I'm tossing the idea of an S2000 or a TVR Chimaera around. I've been finding out everything about both cars over the last month. Both sound like great cars. I just need to test drive them both and make a decision.
I was browsing some TVR and Mustang owners threads this week, owners where pleased that they managed to have the car out for 400 miles a year. WHAT.. Seriously, sports cars should be able to, and be, abused. This whole "buy a car to look pretty on the drive but do dick-all with it" mentality just seems insane to me. Love the honda for the (touch wood) lack of problems its given me and its ability to be really used as intended.
CHIMPDREAMER said:
krunchkin said:
Anyone think of another car that gives better bang for buck in terms of purchase cost/running cost/ driving buzz ? Genuinely interested...
TVR Chimaera.I'm tossing the idea of an S2000 or a TVR Chimaera around. I've been finding out everything about both cars over the last month. Both sound like great cars. I just need to test drive them both and make a decision.
Gaz. said:
Read your own thread - yes the Chimaera offers bigger bangs, but for much bigger bucks. Note that everyone is advising you to keep the £1000 as a slush fund and you're already considering replacing various parts.
Even the 400 has an enormous sense of occasion, it genuinely feels special and it a touch quicker in a straight line. The S2000 handles better but any advantage is nullified by line of sight- you can only go as fast as you can see to be clear although I wouldn't expect the Honda to get upset because I've crossed the crown of the road.
Purchase costs- well you're spending £10k and you'll get a nice example of each, you don't need to spend £10k on the Honda, a nice one can be had for £8k, inspect it, hand over the money and drive into the sunset - it is that easy. £8k will get you an ok 400, but £10k will get you a much better one, and at that price point the 450 is a much better option.
Running costs- the Honda has this licked, even main dealers are much cheaper than TVR specialists, and of course you can use a specialist for the Honda too... Insurance for the TVR is cheaper, tax is the same for pre 06 cars, and some consumables are cheaper on the TVR but they consume them more quickly.
I'm a big fan of both cars so I hope that was balanced enough, I'll leave the details to the Chimaera owners to explain but do drive/passenger in both and if you do choose the Chim I'm sure the boys will show you how to get back into it once you've locked yourself out
I'll still be sat here deliberating this in twelve months time. But on the plus side, I'll have a bigger budget Even the 400 has an enormous sense of occasion, it genuinely feels special and it a touch quicker in a straight line. The S2000 handles better but any advantage is nullified by line of sight- you can only go as fast as you can see to be clear although I wouldn't expect the Honda to get upset because I've crossed the crown of the road.
Purchase costs- well you're spending £10k and you'll get a nice example of each, you don't need to spend £10k on the Honda, a nice one can be had for £8k, inspect it, hand over the money and drive into the sunset - it is that easy. £8k will get you an ok 400, but £10k will get you a much better one, and at that price point the 450 is a much better option.
Running costs- the Honda has this licked, even main dealers are much cheaper than TVR specialists, and of course you can use a specialist for the Honda too... Insurance for the TVR is cheaper, tax is the same for pre 06 cars, and some consumables are cheaper on the TVR but they consume them more quickly.
I'm a big fan of both cars so I hope that was balanced enough, I'll leave the details to the Chimaera owners to explain but do drive/passenger in both and if you do choose the Chim I'm sure the boys will show you how to get back into it once you've locked yourself out
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fullleather said:
The Honda 2000's engine does not give a vtec 'kick' in any way shape or form nor does it bounce off the rev limiter....it simply revs harder and then cuts out the second you see the light flash red....
Really?My S2000 has quite a strong kick, not slammed into the limiter to find out about the other point.
The '06 cars are supposed to be a smoother transition to vtec but the early ones are pretty noticeable.
Hasbeen said:
Anyone who hits a rev limiter more than once in the ownership of a car is too incompetent to drive a decent car, & should be riding a bus.
but what if the wheels are spinning and you are not up to speed to change gear yet?On topic, I just bought my S2000 and they are definitely more expensive than they were a few years ago. I struggled to get a good one under 5k.
RenOHH said:
A good one under £5k? I don't think they exist?
They do.
DSC_0987.jpg by DanielJames., on FlickrI know "we buy any car" are a bunch of c***s, but anyway, two years ago they valued my car at £1,000 less than they did today, - given that I've been doing 8k a year and it's 2 years older now, I would say that price of these things are definitely heading north now...
I've had my car for over 7 years.... need a change! So am thinking of selling it... however, I'm wondering whether to store it away somewhere for a few years instead.... hmmmmm
Username888 said:
I know "we buy any car" are a bunch of c***s, but anyway, two years ago they valued my car at £1,000 less than they did today, - given that I've been doing 8k a year and it's 2 years older now, I would say that price of these things are definitely heading north now...
I've had my car for over 7 years.... need a change! So am thinking of selling it... however, I'm wondering whether to store it away somewhere for a few years instead.... hmmmmm
I'm wondering the same, had mine 13 years now and still love it, just not sure it'll ever go up in value enough to make it worthwhile storing itI've had my car for over 7 years.... need a change! So am thinking of selling it... however, I'm wondering whether to store it away somewhere for a few years instead.... hmmmmm
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