S2000 @ Nurburgring - Toyo 888's?

S2000 @ Nurburgring - Toyo 888's?

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Sportbilly

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187 posts

211 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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Hi Guys

I've not been round these parts for a while and certainly not since getting my S2000. I need a little advise from the S2000 purists please.................

I'm off to the Nurburgring in a couple of weeks and taking the Honda for the first time. My previous cars for the trip have been Audi RS4 and Porsche 996 C2 and both were fantastic on the Ring.

I'm a little nervous about the Honda.......I know it will be fun, but I also know the car can bite you in the AxxE GIVEN THE SLIGHTEST CHANCE!!!!!!!!! I've got a 2009 so it has VSA but from less than 1 years ownership, this has little or no effect on the back end jumping ship at the slightest opportunity. I'm considering a set of Toyo 888's as an extra precaution and extra grip. The car has good rubber all round, but its not good quality rubber and its mixed brands. Don't shoot the messenger, it came from Stratstone like that!!!

My thoughts are get a set of Toyo 888 medium compound tyres for the trip, then maybe sell them when I get back. as they are one of the best road/track tyres out there, plenty of people are looking to buy them off ebay (I am and I cant find any good second hand ones!!!!) and I wouldn't lose too much money. I would also consider Yoko AO48's, but these are even more money!!!

I'm also considering a set of pagid blues or Mintex M1155 pads for the front. Probably the Mintex as the pagids are £250 for a set before fitting. They fit the Mintex to AP brakes and at £100 + fitting they aren't ridiculous in cost.

The question is, money well spent, or not needed??????????

The car is a pristine last edition example, so not sure I want to modify it too much further with induction, decats, etc.

Advise well received.

Thanks!

Janosh

1,735 posts

166 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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I would imagine the OEM brakes will be more than enough at the 'ring, unless you really know the track you won't be using them that hard.... this is presuming that they're in good condition.

If you're driving there and back, I would go for the AD-08's and keep them on the car once you get home... you won't want to put the ditch finders back on nono

Mr MXT

7,691 posts

282 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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888s mean you'll be going much faster when it does let go.

I'd put 4 good quality road tyres on, DS2500s on the front and take a spare set of OE rear pads with you.

Sportbilly

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187 posts

211 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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Cheers Guys

Just looking at the AD08's now or the Toyo R1R's. The brakes are all good as standard. only 1500 since an over hall done by Stratstone.

tozerman

1,175 posts

226 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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Hi, R888's will be mega on the ring, but if it pisses it down on the way there (or there) you probably will struggle with them. I would also suggest the AD08R's as a good compromise.
Are you going the weekend after easter ? if so I will be there with my 99 S2000 so may well see you there.biglaugh

Cheers.....Tony..

bozzy101

506 posts

138 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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If you've got track spec rubber on, I would assume the break away of traction will be quite unpredictable compared to normal road tyres. It'll also be at higher speeds. Wouldn't an OE Bridgestone be the best bet if predictabilty and surefootedness were top of the agenda?

rb5er

11,657 posts

171 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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Get a good set of sporty, matching road tyres.

You don`t want to sell half eaten tyres when you get back and you sure as hell don`t want to put the crappy mismatching bunch back on either.

cava

157 posts

158 months

Tuesday 15th April 2014
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Anyone tried Federal FZ-201 at all?




Sportbilly

Original Poster:

187 posts

211 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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tozerman said:
Hi, R888's will be mega on the ring, but if it pisses it down on the way there (or there) you probably will struggle with them. I would also suggest the AD08R's as a good compromise.
Are you going the weekend after easter ? if so I will be there with my 99 S2000 so may well see you there.biglaugh

Cheers.....Tony..
Thanks Tony. Im at the ring 1-5 May for the 4 days its open to the public. It should be really busy!!! We usually stop at Edy's on the Adenau bridge but he was full this time, so decided to stop at centre parcs which is 25k away which should be fun too. Ive got a 2009 reg VXX (I may swap this and buy S2K PV before then)

Hope to see you there!

Sportbilly

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187 posts

211 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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cava said:
Anyone tried Federal FZ-201 at all?

Are these any good? Ive got a quote of £550 + vat for a full set of 888's. Just trying to get a price on the AD08's before I make my mind up.

NateWM

1,684 posts

178 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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I would say forget the track tyres and go for decent road tyres like Bridgy Potenzas or Goodyear Eagle F1's. Once you are on the track, just enjoy yourself and know the limits of both yourself and the car...No point in being a hero!

If you do decide to go with semi-slicks, take ear plugs...the road noise will be brutal! hehe

SCEL1SE

307 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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I don't think you will go wrong with the AD08s. I find on the Ring you use the brakes a good bit less than on other track days, meaning better cool down periods. So I again would think standard brakes should do the trick for you.
As stated, Ferrodo 2500s would be my next step up for occasional track and fast road.

How are you finding the S2K and how many miles have you covered in It?

Paul

Sportbilly

Original Poster:

187 posts

211 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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SCEL1SE said:
I don't think you will go wrong with the AD08s. I find on the Ring you use the brakes a good bit less than on other track days, meaning better cool down periods. So I again would think standard brakes should do the trick for you.
As stated, Ferrodo 2500s would be my next step up for occasional track and fast road.

How are you finding the S2K and how many miles have you covered in It?

Paul
Thanks for the advise. Yeh, enjoying the s2k. cheap bit of fun, where as before I has £30k's worth of car I never used!!! On a good day, it can fly and be so rewarding, in the wet, it can be a little more challenging!!!

Ive been told by others the ferrodo pads really squeal and drive you mad. Any experience of this?

Im looking forward to some roof down fun on the Ring, im not out to set any records, but its easy to get carried away and hence I would like to add in a few extra security measures like decent brakes and tyres.

gees2k

25 posts

155 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Ive got 888's on mine and they are awsome when up to temp. Plenty of feed back and there not that bad in the rain either.........Its only standing water they dont like.
Would be my choice every time.

tozerman

1,175 posts

226 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Sportbilly said:
Ive been told by others the ferrodo pads really squeal and drive you mad. Any experience of this?
I have the DS2500 all round at present and have no squealing problems at all. I have traditionally been a mintex fan and have used m1144 with success on my s2000, next time I might go for 1155 on front and 1144 on rear or maybe even go for a set of Dixcel z pads all round as they are virtually guaranteed fade free.

Have a good time during the may bank holiday (it will be mega busy) I'm going the 26th/27th April as it should be a bit quieter.

Cheers.....Tony..

Nikko 40691

697 posts

189 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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I'm aware it's not an S2000 but I have DS2500 all round on my Integra and I have no noise issues and they really are a lovely pad.

Sportbilly

Original Poster:

187 posts

211 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Full set of yoko ado8r purchased! Just the brakes now. I've been quoted £110 for a set of 2500s and £85 for a set of mintex 1144. Still not sure whether to stick with standard brakes or put a set of upgraded pads. Will I really feel a difference ?

Russellely

108 posts

162 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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When was the last time the brake fluid was changed?

cava

157 posts

158 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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I'd say it is worth it. I got pad fade with OEM pads (hard pedal but hardly any braking performance) and ended up going off at the end of a straight with the rear brakes locked up. Once that happens it kind of spoils your confidence for the rest of the day. Having brakes I can rely on to stop me is paramount for me. Put decent high temp fluid in there too - e.g. Motul RBF600.

Did you get a good deal on the AD08Rs? I'm wondering whether to get the same

Sportbilly

Original Poster:

187 posts

211 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Hi

Yeh, got a really good deal. £558 delivered for the full set from ears Motorsport in Macclesfield.