Current Civic - Facelift

Current Civic - Facelift

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Triple7

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4,013 posts

236 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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With the arrival of the all new CTR in 2015, will this bring along a facelift of the current extremely dull Civic range, to add in some excitement?

Anyone working close to Honda know if something is in the pipeline and confirm if January is when the new models are released?

Mum looking to replace here current Civic, the latest car is a retrograde move IMHO, so looking to see of holding out would be a good idea...

Thanks peeps

tozerman

1,175 posts

226 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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The existing Civic will be facelifted in 2015, no timescale has yet been announced. Don't expect too much though it will not be massively different from what it looks like now.

Triple7

Original Poster:

4,013 posts

236 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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Thank you. When in 2015?

Thunder18

160 posts

118 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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I think this is due to be shown in Paris then released for sale in 2015. Still can't believe the CTR will be based on this model with the model already being on sale since 2012, doesn't make sense to me??

AmitG

3,272 posts

159 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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Anyone know anything further on this topic?

My local dealer is trying to get me into a Civic Tourer.

I think it looks really nice boxedin

It would need to be the 1.8 petrol auto. This is (I believe) quite an old drivetrain. I hear rumours of new engines etc.

Is it worth holding off?

Thunder18

160 posts

118 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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I don't know of new engines, it certainly would be a surprise. The vtec turbo stuff will be in Type R first and new Jazz (1.0T)and HR-V (1.5ED) I'd imagine... I don't see Honda meddling with the current Civic line up until the FMC, but maybe wait until Paris Auto Show in October, more news might be released...

AmitG

3,272 posts

159 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Yeah, I'm going to wait to see if anything interesting is announced in Paris next month. I'm quite tempted but the petrol auto option is really not very attractive. Both performance and fuel economy are below expectations. I'm trying to decide whether it's worth going for a test drive. On the one hand the performance figures rule it out. On the other hand the dealer does seem quite keen to do business.

Thunder18

160 posts

118 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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http://newsroom.honda.co.uk/en/carnewsdetail/?id=4...

Revised front/rear end with new tech inside, engines remain the same though... we must wait until the FMC before seeing the vtec turbo/earthdreams petrol engines in Civic then...

AmitG

3,272 posts

159 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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It looks really nice (even better than before IMHO). I love the new LED lights and the rear spoiler is much better resolved than before. But I was really hoping for some improvements on the drivetrain front frown

I see that the ICE is also completely new - now based on Android.

Thunder18

160 posts

118 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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Yeah, I like the integrated LED's too, rear bumper/faux diffuser is a nice touch also. Shame Honda never upgrades the engines though.....

AmitG

3,272 posts

159 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Looks like the CRV is also getting a facelift and - significantly - a new drivetrain. 158bhp diesel with 9-speed automatic gearbox.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows/hond...

Is it too much to hope that they will put this in the Civic as well?

I wonder if the new auto gearbox is in-house or from a third party. I seem to recall the previous ones were designed and built in-house. Articles on the web suggest that this new one is the ZF 9-speed unit.

AmitG

3,272 posts

159 months

Saturday 8th November 2014
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Sorry to resurrect an old topic. But - does anyone know if the forthcoming turbo petrol engines are going to end up in the Civic any time soon?

I really like the Civic Tourer, and I'm seriously thinking about getting out my cheque book, but the current petrol auto drivetrain is slow and inefficient, and a deal breaker.

Anyone got the inside scoop?

Thunder18

160 posts

118 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Petrol Turbo engines won't be here until 2016 (excluding CTR) so unless you just slap a turbo on your tourer yourself, it'll be waiting game, and 2016 should see an all new Civic, but how long before the tourer of that version arrives??

Honda doesn't do things easy!!

Deerfoot

4,897 posts

183 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Thunder18 said:
Honda doesn't do things easy!!
It`s probably this that has resulted in Honda being in the position it's presently in.

The UK range is poor to say the least.

Edited by Deerfoot on Monday 10th November 21:35

AmitG

3,272 posts

159 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Deerfoot said:
It`s probably this that has resulted in Honda being in the position it presently in.

The UK range is poor to say the least.
Very much so.

I believe that the UK range is now down to 3 cars: Jazz, Civic and CR-V. No Insight, no CR-Z, no Accord. These models are listed on Honda's website, but according to my dealer they are special order only and are basically unavailable.

I really liked the the Civic Tourer, but the only auto available is the aforementioned petrol version, and by modern standards it just doesn't cut it. I'm sure it's ultra reliable but I can't justify it. And it's not cheap.

There's no hybrid, which I found surprising - what happened to Honda's market-leading hybrid tech? It's available in the US; why not here?

It's really sad frown I wanted to do business with them, but there's just nothing in the current range that works for me.

Deerfoot

4,897 posts

183 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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AmitG said:
Very much so.

I believe that the UK range is now down to 3 cars: Jazz, Civic and CR-V. No Insight, no CR-Z, no Accord. These models are listed on Honda's website, but according to my dealer they are special order only and are basically unavailable.

I really liked the the Civic Tourer, but the only auto available is the aforementioned petrol version, and by modern standards it just doesn't cut it. I'm sure it's ultra reliable but I can't justify it. And it's not cheap.

There's no hybrid, which I found surprising - what happened to Honda's market-leading hybrid tech? It's available in the US; why not here?

It's really sad frown I wanted to do business with them, but there's just nothing in the current range that works for me.
Same here. We own a Jazz and it's a great little car that does everything we need from it. I have an Accord Tourer that's also quite good.

The thing is Honda UK priced the Accord out of contention, placing it amongst the 3 series, A4 and C Class etc. The British public obviously preferred to have the perceived prestige badge on their drive. I had a look at the Civic Tourer in my local showroom a while back when the Jazz was having an MOT. It was a nice package but it was priced at £27,000. This was for a 1.6 diesel car.

The fact that there are no aspirational cars in the UK line up is mystifying. The CR-Z was a missed opportunity and the lack of a Civic Type R for so long is baffling, don't Honda realise that by not offering a car for present owners to trade up to they'll lose them to other manufacturers?

Honda UK need to get a grip quickly.

sjg

7,444 posts

264 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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My dad recently bought a tourer in that spec - 1.8, auto. He really likes it but the very "traditional" petrol and autobox were what appealed. No turbos, no high pressure injectors, no fancy dual clutch gearboxes to go wrong. It is his third petrol auto Honda in about 15 years though (Accord then CRVs).

He tried the Auris Touring (I pushed him to, I was very impressed by the hybrid I drove, nearly enough to buy one) as I thought it was the ideal petrol auto these days. He really didn't like the drivetrain.

I guess Honda keeps going OK with people like him. The 1.6 diesel Civic seems to do OK for people that like that sort of thing.

12dan34

273 posts

110 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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I think the rear bumper is the best change made to the facelift model. Would be great if you could buy an attachment for the earlier model (2012-2014) to look like that..

AmitG

3,272 posts

159 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Incidentally, my local dealer rang me up a while ago with the usual offer to do business. During the conversation they said that the new turbo petrol engines would come to the Civic this year. Not just the Type-R, but generally.

I find it hard to believe given it's only just been facelifted, but maybe something will be offered in Q3/Q4.

They are also coming to the HR-V apparently.