'07-08 CRV diesel purchase?

'07-08 CRV diesel purchase?

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dtr

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71 posts

117 months

Sunday 8th February 2015
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I am pretty much set on buying one in the near future. Is there anything I should be aware, like common expensive mechanical faults or annoying design flaws?

What I am looking for is a modern, economic SUV with good corner handling performance and strong diesel engine for occasional overtaking, climbing [paved] mountainous roads and cruising happily at full 70-75mph (like you would expect from any reasonable diesel car). Off-roading would be mostly limited to muddy car parks in the countryside smile

havoc

30,035 posts

235 months

Sunday 8th February 2015
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dtr said:
I am pretty much set on buying one in the near future. Is there anything I should be aware, like common expensive mechanical faults or annoying design flaws?

What I am looking for is a modern, economic SUV with good corner handling performance and strong diesel engine for occasional overtaking, climbing [paved] mountainous roads and cruising happily at full 70-75mph (like you would expect from any reasonable diesel car). Off-roading would be mostly limited to muddy car parks in the countryside smile
Diesel engine isn't as potent as the latest ones on the market, esp. not in a mid-size 4x4, but it might be enough for you. DTEC marginally more powerful (and more refined) than the CTDi, but the DTEC has DPFs...

Handling is pretty fair for a 4x4 - better than the 99-06 model - but it won't compete with an X5 or Kuga.

Common faults - not sure. Google should help. Common 'generic' Honda ones are around calipers and hubs - the oily bits are usually very reliable. And possibly bushes on a heavy 7y.o. car.

Design flaws - the steering. Not all, but quite a lot seem to have this weird 'pulse' in the steering. On steady lock at steady (positive) throttle (i.e. when turning right at a roundabout), the steering rocks clearly and powerfully back-and-forth in your hands, very disconcerting. Sometimes (apparently) a diff flush will sort it out (if not taken off road the rear axle and the on-demand 4wd transmission gubbins rarely get used), but I'm not convinced.

dtr

Original Poster:

71 posts

117 months

Sunday 8th February 2015
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havoc said:
Diesel engine isn't as potent as the latest ones on the market, esp. not in a mid-size 4x4, but it might be enough for you. DTEC marginally more powerful (and more refined) than the CTDi, but the DTEC has DPFs...

Handling is pretty fair for a 4x4 - better than the 99-06 model - but it won't compete with an X5 or Kuga.

Common faults - not sure. Google should help. Common 'generic' Honda ones are around calipers and hubs - the oily bits are usually very reliable. And possibly bushes on a heavy 7y.o. car.

Design flaws - the steering. Not all, but quite a lot seem to have this weird 'pulse' in the steering. On steady lock at steady (positive) throttle (i.e. when turning right at a roundabout), the steering rocks clearly and powerfully back-and-forth in your hands, very disconcerting. Sometimes (apparently) a diff flush will sort it out (if not taken off road the rear axle and the on-demand 4wd transmission gubbins rarely get used), but I'm not convinced.
no DPF - that's great news!.. So does the diesel take re-mapping well? Or is it OK to start with? I like my turbo boost from around 17-1900 rpm, not around 2300-ish on the current car...

Kuga is a little more expensive and barely within my reach (X5 is sadly well out). Do you think that is a better purchase? I know the engine is prone to turbo failures in Mondeos?

havoc

30,035 posts

235 months

Sunday 8th February 2015
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Tough call.
- The CR-V will most likely be more reliable / better built. But not without issues...we're talking 7y.o. diesels here! In EX-spec it's pretty loaded too...
- The Kuga is a Ford (with everything that means), but IMHO looks better and drives better. It's also a generation on from the CR-V in terms of design/spec/infotainment/etc.

Drive 'em both, check the Warranty Direct index, check what warranties are available if you're so inclined. I'd get the CR-V if I could find one without the silly steering, but that's me...YMMV.

dtr

Original Poster:

71 posts

117 months

Sunday 8th February 2015
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havoc said:
Tough call.
- The CR-V will most likely be more reliable / better built. But not without issues...we're talking 7y.o. diesels here! In EX-spec it's pretty loaded too...
- The Kuga is a Ford (with everything that means), but IMHO looks better and drives better. It's also a generation on from the CR-V in terms of design/spec/infotainment/etc.

Drive 'em both, check the Warranty Direct index, check what warranties are available if you're so inclined. I'd get the CR-V if I could find one without the silly steering, but that's me...YMMV.
just one more thing... where would you find one from that year to properly test drive for a day (Glasgow to Glencoe and back)?

grumpyscot

1,277 posts

192 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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The 07=08 year was also a bad year for CRV air-con systems - premature clutch failure. Cost to replace £1,600. Honda did have an extended warranty, but only goes up to 99,999 miles or 6 years from date of registration.

dtr

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71 posts

117 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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grumpyscot said:
The 07=08 year was also a bad year for CRV air-con systems - premature clutch failure. Cost to replace £1,600. Honda did have an extended warranty, but only goes up to 99,999 miles or 6 years from date of registration.
Are Clutch and DMF failures some unlucky examples, usually low mileage (under 30-40k) or something more universal? I will probably shop for one with 90-100k.

P.S. I've ruled out Kuga. It's too small, particularly the boot, and then it costs more. Anything else to consider if CRV is "no good"? Tuareg? X3? RAV4?

Sparks

1,217 posts

279 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Hi,

I have an F-RV of the same vintage (Diesel), and the clutch has started slipping in 6th at peak torque (just over 100k miles). Driven less aggressively, it is O.K, but frustrating, as I have only had it 9 months. Clutch is £750-900 add another 500(ish) for DMF. C-RV will be similar.

The earlier ones had a design defect, that led to the high number of early failures, but I believe it was fixed by 07/08.
Pretty good engine, but like all diesels at higher mileage, expect to start getting expensive bills.

HTH

Sparks